I want an explanation from Hillary supporters about Harold Icke's involvement with the DNC decision

[Hugabear]

One of Hillary's top campaign advisors, Harold Ickes, voted to strip Florida and Michigan of all of their delegates. Yet every single time I've seen this brought up, there seems to be a strange silence. Can anyone honestly explain why Ickes is now demanding that every delegate be seated and their votes counted, when he is one of the ones who played an active part in their "disenfranchisement"?

[Windy]

1. I suspect that you will only hear crickets!! n/t

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[The Magistrate]

2. What A Question, Sir....

The gentleman construes the interests of his patron differently now than he did then....

"Principled arguments are those that invoke some principle as their ground. It need not always be the same principle."

[uberblonde]

4. Like the principle that led Obama to remove his name from the ballot?

And now wants all the uncommitted vote? Oh yeah, like that!

[AllentownJake]

5. Is David Axelrod on the committee

that will vote on that issue?

FAIL

[The Magistrate]

9. This Sort Of Thing, Ma'am, Is Indeed Universal

"People are fucking people, and that is fucked up!"

[muryan]

12. count every vote, not just the ones for hillary

Voter intent is clear, 40% didnt want hillary

[WeDidIt]

6. I am not a Hillary supporter, but I understand the logic behind the switch

I just don't happen to agree with it.

To paraphrase in the most basic way, they were originally stripped of all delegates to put the boots down and stop all other states from leapfrogging. Having accomplished that, there is no longer any reason to strip the delegates, so they should be returned to full status based upon the votes as cast.

As I said, I understand it, I just don't agree that it is a valid argument.

[Lucky 13]

7. That's ridiculous!

That's like saying, "We sentenced the criminal to multiple life sentences to send a message that murder will not be tolerated." Then a few months later... "Our message was received loud and clear... so we can parole him now."

Infuriating.

If we don't stick to the punishment, next time won't states CONSIDER moving their dates with the thought, "They won't REALLY enforce the penalty! Just look at MI/FL in 2008!"

[WeDidIt]

15. I couldn't agree with you more

That's the logic Ickes uses, though, however fallacious the argument is.

[mdmc]

8. when he voted against seating FL and MI he thought HRC would

have already won and it would be a non issue.

[LakeSamish706]

10. Your post is much closer to the truth! n/t

[Rageneau]

11. Why don't you childishly "demand" to know what happened to the dodos?

[Lucky 13]

14. How dare he ask anyone to defend their twisted logic!

Why would anyone want to do that? It just exposes the spin for the bullshit it is!

[Marrah_G]

16. You could almost see him stomping his feet while typing

[Hugabear]

17. Nice, but I can't help but notice still no answers from your camp

How about instead of making a personal attack on me for asking a "childish" question, how about addressing the question itself? I fail to see why it's childish to point out the sheer hypocrisy of Mr. Ickes.

If he was so goddamned concerned about "counting every vote", then he would not have voted to take away their votes.

[Marrah_G]

18. I answered you.

[Marrah_G]

13. I have no idea- perhaps you could ask him?

I'm certainly not going to speak for him.