I'M PISSED!!!! NOW THAT A RIGHT WING Shill says Bush LIED, the Media is AMAZED!

[wowimthere]

You hear this? How could the media know? Brokaw! Russert! All of them asserting that they didn't know back then what they know now. Russert, "we asked the questions". Really? I could have done a better job than all of them. How did I know back then that Bush was lying. There is a suspension of disbelief on the part of the press because they think EVERYONE is stupid enough to buy their garbage of "not knowing".

The war? LIES from the very beginning.
The CIA leak? They were all involved.

McClellan is guilty of one thing... today. He was lying for the administration all along and continued to lie for them until he got hung out to dry. Now he speaks the truth but it comes with a lot of baggage and a price he should be willing to pay for the untold deaths not speaking up earlier exacted. Lets put the blame where the blame squarely belongs... It is the NEO-CONS and the Media who are at fault for this war, for the CIA leak. The Media and the Administration of Neo-Cons have a seat at the same table. The media were enablers. And yes anyone who voted for this war became enablers as well regardless of party affiliation.

The Media can no longer afford to sidestep blame. Go ahead make a story of the fact that a true insider told the truth for once but take your share of the blame while you're at it. YOU, all of you truly deserve it.

[LSK]

1. psst: this is for that other forum

This is the irrational hate Obama/Clinton forum.

:hi:

[graywarrior]

2. Bwhahahahhaha! You kill me! ! ! !

[LSK]

10. and I didnt even have to post the brazilian joke

:D

[graywarrior]

17. All I need is to see LSK and I piss myself laughing

[LSK]

19. Your post is sexist

when its not so busy being racist.

[graywarrior]

21. I don't remember mentioning golden showers! ! ! !

[LSK]

22. only at the Olive Garden

[graywarrior]

23. We really need to start reviewing the 99 Restaurants

There's some serious shit going on at those places. S e r i o u s shit.

[PoliticalAmazon]

5. Notice that Hillary is SILENT about this.....

She can't say anything because she voted for Iraq.

It shows how effective she would be dealing with the neocon criminal behavior if she ever gained the Oval Office. She would not be able to even criticize them because she aided and abetted them every step of the way.

[wowimthere]

7. Exactly! She's Kerry Part II

[karynnj]

24. Kerry Part II?

Does that mean that she spoke out against rushing to war before it started? NO That she was one of the few to question the way Bush diverted the effort from Afghanistan to Iraq? NO Did you heard Kerry say it was not a war of last resort? Do you know what that signifies? Did you hear "Wrong war?" Misled into war ....?

Didn't you get that even in 2003/2004, Kerry was proposing plans that actually would do what could reasonably be done to restore some stability to Iraq and get out. Or are you one who didn't see that media repeating the RNC line that Kerry's plan was Bush's was a lie. Just as Bill Clinton's comment this year that Obama's position on Iraq in 2004 was "just like Bush's". Did you hear Kerry bring up in the first debate that the accusation that "permanent bases" were being built and that he was against it? (As to media really not hearing Kerry's plan or understanding it - consider how quick they here to state that it was similar to the Iraq Study Group recommendations - starting with a regional summit - Kerry spoke of planning it as soon as he knew he was elected - to have it as early as possible. Oh, there was some Democrats not that different on what to do going forward - they were called the Clintons.

Did you notice that it was Kerry who fought as hard as anyone to have a Democratic exit plan? The fact is that you likely resent that Kerry voted for the IWR - even though he spoke out as he said he would when Bush didn't follow the process he committed to. Do you hold Obama's vote against Kerry/Feingold permanently against him? It was only 6 months later that Obama was for a K/F like plan. Have you noticed that Kerry has been as helpful as anyone to Obama this year?

On more basic levels, do you think that either John or Teresa Heinz Kerry would ever make the base personal attacks on Obama or bring race in the primary as the Clintons have? Do you think that Kerry would tear the party apart to win at all costs? Do you think that Kerry strong armed people and threatened them with "not being on the bus" like the Clintons did?

[LSK]

8. Excellent job of moving the topic of this post to the Dem nominee hatefest

:toast:

[PoliticalAmazon]

14. No discussion of Bush's lies into Iraq would be complete without a discussion...

of his collaborators, which include the MSM and Dem politicians like Hillary Clinton.

[PoliticalAmazon]

3. It's CYA time. McClellan/Bush first made the their bitches...

then McClellan bitch-slapped them for allowing it to be done. They are embarassed and trying to save their own reputations.

I saw a very funny bit on CNN yesterday. I never watch CNN anymore, but it was on at the gym.

Wolf Blitzer was peaking with his pundits du jour and another CNN hack about the media's role in Bush's success in getting us in Iraq. After a lot of hemming and hawing, they all agreed that CNN gave "solid coverage." I shit you not.

They are PISSED to be shown to be such patsies. That's why the coverage so far has largely been allowing Bush insiders to slam McClellan.

[JerseygirlCT]

4. I know. Things we've been saying for years and years

and we've been answered with accusations of a lack of patriotism or that we're just nutsy left-wingers...

Right. Here you are, the guy sent out there to lie to you, the one who DID lie to you, and NOW you believe?

Boggles the mind.

[wowimthere]

6. So why do the likes of Matalin and Bartlett get a response. They were lying then. They are lying

right now. The media is still giving them air time.

[JerseygirlCT]

9. I'm guessing for the same reason that

they bought the Bush story to begin with: "liberal media" is a myth.

Reporters might indeed have a more liberal slant (could be, who knows?) But they only report what their corporate owners tell them to report. And that's not the truth!

[remember2000forever]

18. Remember Dan Rather?

We Should All Watch Him On Where He Has Been Vanquished For Trying To Have Honest Journalism. Catch Him On HD Net.

[JerseygirlCT]

20. Oh I do. nt

[PoliticalAmazon]

11. Media is playing CYA-that's why they have Bush insiders on to destroy McClellan's credibility....

The media is plenty embarassed by this. They need to destroy McClellan's credibility.

[newmajority]

13. Matalin lies everytime she opens her mouth

Same with her husband.

[90-percent]

12. a personal anecdote

I met a guy recently that left Poland for the USA maybe 25 years ago. He told me at least the people there knew what they were getting in Pravda was bullshit. He told me that people in the USA still think their MSM is independent and objective in their government coverage.

So American Corporate MSM is indeed Pravda and American citizens have no clue this is the case!

I want to see all these MSM operatives boiled in their own oils!

Hey, maybe all the MSM Talking Heads are on the Pentagon Payroll like all the stooge rent-a-expert pundit Generals are!


-90% jimmy

[Major Hogwash]

15. Calm down - it's because McClellan was from within Bush's own inner circle!

The same thing happened when John Mitchell resigned from Nixon's administration.

[90-percent]

16. Also

I use my "willing suspension of disbelief" to enjoy a horror or sci-fi flick.

Our MSM does the same thing TO REPORT NATIONAL NEWS!

-90% again