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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:44 AM
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No matter what, she's taking it to the convention (corrected)
Edited on Fri May-30-08 12:55 AM by SlipperySlope
It doesn't end June 3rd. She's never said one word that implies that it does.

She is taking it to the convention, and nothing can stop her. Even if every single superdelegate announced they were voting Obama, she is taking it to the convention. Even if Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Howard Dean screamed from every mountaintop that her campaign was over, she is taking it to the convention.

Mark my words; It will not be over June 3rd, June 4th, or any other date beginning with the letter "J". I won't be over until the convention assembles in August and holds a floor vote.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:45 AM
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1. I think you mean convention - she is taking it to the convention
and no shes not. Her surrogates are abandoning her.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:52 AM
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10. I have utter confidence that Clinton will continue running until - and through - the next primary,
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:02 AM
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14. Rendell came out and said today that Obma has won
Carville has also

Feinstein, Patterson and Schumer have all made remarks about not going to far.

There are a ton of super delegates who come from districts that Obama has taken big.

But here is the key - she isn't going to have any money. The money has dried up.

She has to get in now and negotiate a book deal that will come out in November. If she waits longer she will be out another 5 million dollars.

They didn't get the VP spot so they intend to have a little dust up on the way out but its over.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:31 AM
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21. She'll have to drive that red truck to denver with bill ridin' shotgun
and use a megaphone off the back of that pickup truck and protest from the parking lot....

SHE'S IN IT TO WIN IT!!
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:46 AM
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2. but it's going to be funny if she does
because the senators will use every tool known to destroy her. she will be ostracized and kept from having a political future. if that is what she thinks she needs at thig point--more power to her.

I just hope she doesn't get hurt.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:46 AM
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3. Superdelegates will force her out. Count on it.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:48 AM
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4. yeah but we can have a quasi-presumptive nominee and focus on the GE prior to Convention
and that will help...

but only....

if the SD's do what I hope they will...
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:48 AM
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5. If she does take her little shabby candidancy to the convention
she will have basically no future political role in the democratic party. She is utterly useless at this point, IMHO. I don't think she is that stupid. I don't think the people working for her are that stupid because they will need jobs when this is all over and she won't be in a position to give them one.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:57 AM
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11. "she will have basically no future political role"
You wrote "she will have basically no future political role in the democratic party".

This isn't ABOUT what role Hillary will have in the Democratic party. This is about what role the Democratic party will have with Hillary.

She will be more than happy to abandon the party the moment it suits her needs.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:25 AM
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19. You don't have to be mean about it.
:D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:49 AM
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6. You mean "convention" in your headline..
Just because she's listed her "post primary" schedule?

KansasVoter (594 posts) Thu May-29-08 11:59 PM
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Clinton Issues Post-Primary Schedule (Yes, Post-Primary Schedule)
Unbelievable......maybe this is only wishful thinking!!!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/clinton...

ABC News' Eloise Harper Reports: The press traveling with Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign received an email Thursday afternoon informing reporters they could sign up for travel through June 6 on the campaign website.

Given the speculation surrounding plausible outcomes from this Saturday's DNC Meeting and the final Democratic primaries on June 3, many confused looks passed between reporters on the back of the press bus.

When asked for comment, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson looked past Tuesday's primaries to the general election.

"There are a lot of places for us to go between June 4 and November," Carson said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6178203
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:49 AM
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7. Dedicated to Hillary and Bill

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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:51 AM
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8. I'm with you on this one.
No matter how many SDs declare for Obama, she will say that a declaration is not a vote, and that's what matters, so until they vote, she's still in the race and making her case. My sense is that holding the party hostage is part of her "case" -- make her nominee, and she'll stop demagoguing the race and inflaming her supporters. Or don't, and watch it rip itself apart.

I keep hoping she's smarter or more noble than this, but the more I hear her speak, the less hope I feel.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:58 AM
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12. I wish I could K&R you
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:52 AM
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9. so, this Independent can laugh at the Democratic Party for self-imploding then and
it will be all Hillary's fault that McCain gets elected. Nice one, gang.....Dems can be proud if this happens. I'll keep my Independent status if your candidates can't appreciate your party....Geesh!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:04 AM
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16. As an independent liberal, I can say it's times like these I'm glad I don't have to be ashamed.
It's not fun to watch ... except in an "I told you so" way. :shrug:

A helluva way to elect a President. :puke:

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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:10 AM
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17. I've never been ashamed to be Indie....that way I can tell both sides
what I think w/o being disloyal. I am really Libertarian by political test, but I don't support any candidates so I consider myself Independent Right who votes Left....how's that one....???

Go Barack!
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:28 AM
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20. hmmmm, I just retook the Political Preference test and I've become
a Left Libertarian now...I wonder what answers I changed, but at least I know I'm still left leaning and not Authoritarian...

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:02 AM
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13. It would be bad enough if she took it to the convention and lost
but I believe the party could survive that and her status within the party would be diminished to zilch.

But can you imagine what would happen in November if she took it to the convention and actually managed to finagle the nomination for herself. That nomination would not be worth the powder to blow it to hell. And we'd have a teweedle dum and tweedle dumber general election campaign to look forward to between her and her buddy McLame. The younger voters and many older African Americans would look elsewhere and possibly sit out the election. Even the threat a=of a overwhelming right wing majority on the supreme court would not bring them back to the polls because they would perceive very little difference between hillary and grampa.

So I don't think those in a position to call these things will sit still for a clinton assault at the convention. She will be told in no uncertain terms, sometime in the next two or three weeks, that she will not be the nominee and to find a way to exit with a shred of dignity or she will be told to leave.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:03 AM
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15. she's having too much fun to quit now...
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:14 AM
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18. I'm sure she wants to take it to the convention
but she won't be able to do it because her enablers will jump off the sinking ship as soon as they can. We all pin the blame solely on Hillary for her scorched earth craziness, but she couldn't have done it without her inner circle egging her on - Lanny Davis, James Carville, Howard Wolfson, Harold Ickes, Terry McAuliffe, Mark Penn, and Bill Clinton.

Do others find it a bit odd that Hillary's most loyal, powerful, and vocal campaign staff are all men? She does have female surrogates, but they don't seem to hold any of the real power within her campaign.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:24 AM
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22. She's channeling Saul Alinsky right now!
The subject of her senior thesis and a street fightin' man!
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:34 AM
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23. but why not?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:40 AM
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24. How?
Practically speaking, how does she do it? She's deeply in debt. She'll personally lose at least 11 million. Her SDs will continue abandoning her and in greater and greater numbers. In short order she'll become a late night talk show joke, and she'll destroy any future she may have within the dem party. She'll also seriously damage Bill's legacy. I just don't see it as feasible.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:52 AM
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26. This is my question as well...
Seriously, how is she able to continue her campaign? Is she just putting all this on the ole Visa card or what? Or are vendors, etc just trusting her for payment? I'd like to know her trick, whatever it is, lol.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:49 AM
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25. d'oh!
Edited on Fri May-30-08 06:25 AM by rucky
Edited out of complete temporary insanity and lack of coffee.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:57 AM
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27. Fight it out Hillary!
Don't give up on our party. There are many who still support you! And we'll be with you through the convention if that is what it takes!!
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:29 PM
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28. 5/31 - I told you so
Nice how she is reserving the right, huh?
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