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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:08 PM
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BREAKING: TalkLeft says: Clinton admits DNC was RIGHT not to seat FL and MI!
Edited on Fri May-30-08 02:20 PM by Sundoggy
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/30/13333/0744


In today's conference call, the Clinton campaign conceded any rules-based or fairness-based argument for the full seating of the Florida and Michigan delegations. The Clinton campaign declared that, unlike Iowa, NH and South Carolina, Florida and Michigan did indeed break the DNC rules and without justification. The Clinton campaign expressly disagreed with the Michigan Democratic Party's contention that the DNC had selectively enforced its rules by allowing New Hampshire and South Carolina to break the sanctioned primary schedule, that Florida was not entitled to a safe harbor or waiver, and that the DNC had acted properly and within the rules when it stripped Florida and Michigan of its delegates.



Hillary, with this move, has just cut the legs off her most rabid supporters. What will the hate sites have to say about this?

EDITED to give a more accurate title.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:09 PM
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1. First Read is reporting that they said the opposite during the conference call!
I truly wish this was true but it does not look like it is........
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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:12 PM
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2. Well dayum. Who can you trust anymore!!!
Anyone who gets any additional data please post a link. If true, this is a biggie.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:12 PM
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3. It wasn't the opposite,
Edited on Fri May-30-08 02:13 PM by ProSense
they simply quoted her campaign's plea that the state parties be forgiven for violations.

*** UPDATE *** Also on the conference call, the campaign repeated what it said it earlier in the week: that it wants the full Florida and Michigan delegations to be seated; that it wants them seated according to the January primary votes in each state; and that the "uncommitted" votes in Michigan can't be given to Obama -- they must remain uncommitted.

"We are hopeful and confident that after hearing all the arguments and hearing all the facts ... that all the delegates will be seated and all of them will have a full vote," Ickes said.

Moreover, the Clinton's campaign general counsel issued a letter to members of the DNC's Rules and Bylaws committee, which takes issue with the DNC analysis suggesting that Florida and Michigan must be penalized by at least 50%. "The RBC," the letter says, "has broad powers to fully reinstate the Florida and Michigan delegations. Rule 20(C)(7) allows the RBC to forgive violations when a state party and other relevant Democratic party leaders and elected officials have taken provable, positive steps and acted in good faith to bring the state into compliance with the DNC’s Delegate Selection Rules."

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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:14 PM
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4. Yup, no votes for him in Michigan....
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:14 PM
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5. They'll say that:
the Obama-industrial-muslim-complex forced Hillary to say it...by using sexism.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:17 PM
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6. What hate sites do you mean? The only "hate' sites I know of are anti-Hillary.
Can you name a hate site that is anti-Obama?

Remember now, a hate site is a site that spews hate -- like Huff Post, Kos, Buzzflash, or 2/3's of DU.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:19 PM
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8. Hillary is 44, Taylor Marsh, Hillaryclintonforum.net.
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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:19 PM
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9. Are you serious???
Spend a few minutes at hillaryis44.com. But get your barf bag out first.
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:47 PM
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12. You've never visted free republic then
they hate Obama with a passion; Hillary too, but I think they more scared of Obama
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:19 PM
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7. I'm not finding this view on any other site but the one you noted...
Frustrating...
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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:21 PM
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10. Title altered to reflect that fact n/t
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Sundoggy Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:34 PM
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11. Ickes's words:
Edited on Fri May-30-08 02:36 PM by Sundoggy
"I asked for clarification on Flountroy's answer. Ickes REITERATED that it is the Clinton position that the positions of Iowa, NH, and SC are completely different than that of Florida and Michigan and that Iowa, NH and SC acted fully within the rules but Florida and Michigan did not. therefore, there was NO SELECTIVE enforcement by the DNC. He rejected Florida's argument that it was entitled to a safe harbor and he stated EXPRESSLY that the Clinton campaign does NOT agree with the position taken by the Michigan Democratic Party."

from the TalkLeft live blog:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/30/112938/685
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