MSNBC (Shuster): Some people may wonder 'What's with this crowd Obama hangs out with?'

[godai]

Regarding the new pastorbation, the MSM sinks to new lows as they attempt to stoke the fires.

[KittyWampus]

1. GOP Priest Mocks Obama Last Night At NY State Republican Party Dinner

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/GOP_priest_attacks_Obama_in_invocation.html

[KittyWampus]

2. dupe

[Starbucks Anarchist]

3. Maybe they can donate to his library so we won't know their names.

[npincus]

4. Shuster's good.

I suppose he's being realistic and positing a view SOME may have; I doubt he does.

[godai]

6. He's reading that, of course. I say it's the MSM dictating what he reads n/t

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

30. there's a sick crowd at MSNBC: Joe "Dead Intern" Scarboro, Chris "tingle up my leg" Matthews

funny how these pundits like to judge others.

[npincus]

35. Tweety has been fantstic lately in his McClellan coverage, and

repeatng how the pastor story is tivial humn interest and not even in the same league as the revelations in Scotty's book. McClellan will be on his show on Monday- it is a must-see. Tweety will ask the questions we want to hear, not the dopey ones the lazy, stupid MSM is focused on. David Gregory has been a real disappoint to me; when he was in the WH press core he was much better, now he's adopted all the network talking points of the day.

I can forgive Tweety his past man-crush commentary; he's seen the light and has been great.

[kwenu]

5. Do we wonder about the crowd McCain hangs out with?

[Straight Shooter]

7. Shuster said that?

Look out for flying pigs.

Icky statement though, anything that begins with "Some people" should be immediately tossed.

[godai]

9. Yes, as a tease. They haven't come to that topic yet n/t

[Straight Shooter]

14. Okay. Thanks for the info. But I despise that phrase "Some people ..." Grrrr. n/t

[knixphan]

26. just what I was thinking.

[LSparkle]

8. And the corporate media probably believes that whites don't use the "n-word" anymore

Why weren't they asking why people in West Virginia and Kentucky
are so obviously ALLERGIC to voting for a black man? No, they
framed it as "OBAMA HAS A PROBLEM" ... not the WHITE VOTERS who
are expressing racial intolerance.

Now again, it's OBAMA WHO HAS A PROBLEM -- his "crowd" whoops
it up when one of their own actually WINS against an entitled,
rich, white woman. OMG! Well, ah nevah!

Sorry for the caps, but why is it always that the BLACKS ARE THE
ONES WITH THE PROBLEMS? Racism exists -- ON BOTH SIDES ... why
can't the suckola corporate media wake up to this fact and quit
acting so *puzzled*???

[hfojvt]

33. We don't

many of us never did.

What I did not like about the speech was the insinuation that Hillary felt entitled because she is white.

Obama is the one with the problem because he's the one who needs the votes - of people who might not otherwise like him, and of people who might be put off by the celebration of his friends.

[LSparkle]

34. But it's OK for "white working class" voters in WV and KY not to vote for him

and to cite racial concerns in their exit polling. It's OK for
us white people to hold onto our racial prejudices, but we get
all up in arms when the black community DARES to lampoon our
historic sense of entitlement.

Yeah, we may not use the n-word anymore, but that's just language.

[hfojvt]

36. What historic sense of entitlement?

I voted for Jackson in 1988 and against all kinds of white people like Reagan, Bush, W, and so on.

It's OK for voters to vote. What are you gonna do? Call them names? That was certainly done on the blogosphere, but it does not help get them on your side either.

First, I think it's ridiculous. As if Hillary would not have choked up if Edwards "stole" the nomination that she expected to win. Second, it kinda lumps all white people together. White people have to pay for the sins of their ancestors (which ones are those, dying in Andersonville? How much do I owe for that?) White people need to give up their 401Ks. Wow. So I saved money working seventy hour weeks for $7 an hour, but I should give that up because of the color of my skin. Finally, I don't think it plays well in Peoria.

[LSparkle]

38. Tell me you don't feel a twinge when you see a black guy driving a Benz

or a black woman with a Louis Vuitton bag ... Especially as a
"financially challenged" white woman, I have to admit sometimes
it makes me uncomfortable. That's our historic sense that we
should always have it "better" ... It's becoming less prevalent
but it still exists, that's all I'm saying.

[hfojvt]

41. I generally don't like rich SOBs of any race

but it depends on how they got it and what they do with it. Buying a nice car to show off or buying some fancy bag seems like wasteful spending to me. Given that I drive a bicycle, somebody with any car has got fancier wheels than I do. I generally don't begrudge people their rides. I don't think I have that sense, nor that sense of comparing my supposed status to other people. Maybe because it would be too depressing. I grew up seeing people like Cosby, Julius Erving, Kareem, OJ, Eddie Murphy who were much richer and more famous than myself. What's the big deal? What's a cubit?

[LSparkle]

46. All I'm saying is that whites are NEVER arrested for "driving while BLACK"

Why else would our law enforcement pull over black men
in expensive cars unless they didn't think those men
had the RIGHT to those cars?

It's not right, but it IS pervasive -- that's all I
was trying to say.

[hfojvt]

51. they are arrested for "driving while poor" though

not arrested, but stopped.

The reason police are pulling over black men in nice cars, is certainly NOT the idea that those people don't have a right to those cars, at least in many cases. It is based on the knowledge, which is getting to be less and less true all the time, although the rate of black poverty is still much higher than for whites, that many or most black people cannot afford cars that nice. Hence there is probable cause to suspect that it is a stolen car.

It may be pervasive, but it is not universal. So we might agree more than we disagree.

[amandabeech]

37. You're right.

That laughing and clapping isn't going to help either.

I wonder what the Father's Bishop thinks of this? The RCC needs all the friends and donations that it can get after the pedophile priest episodes.

This will be all over TV in the autumn.

[OhioBlue]

47. actually many do.

The N-word is thrown around by people when talking about Obama.

I was very disappointed in the 2 people that I know that referred to him that way. One was a hard-core Republican, but one that I never expected to say that. The other was a farmer, long-time family friend that hates *. I don't know if he will vote in November, or how he will vote, but it broke my heart to know that he used that term in a way to reduce someone to nothing more than the color of their skin.

Also, the N-word is thrown around by white people daily. Maybe not everywhere, and I don't pretend to speak for everyone. I live in rural Ohio. My area is not integrated or diverse at all. There is probably a 1%-3% minority population.

It is a horrible word and I admonish people when they use it. But, I won't pretend like it isn't used. I have left conversations almost in tears out of frustration and sadness over people's ignorance. There are people that use racist language, that tell racist jokes and harbor racist fears. However, many of them will vote for Obama. Many of them idolize Emmit Smith or LeBron James. In the company of a black person, they would never use racist language and would be extremely friendly.

I don't know how to explain it. For the vast majority of those that I know that use this type of language, it is racism, but it isn't hatred. They wish no ill-will on someone b/c they are different, but they stereo-type and use language that would make many people feel very uncomfortable. They think the NAACP or the Black Music Awards are reverse racism. I think it is mostly ignorance and a lack of diversity, I don't really know.

[hfojvt]

50. I did not deny that many do

I just asserted that many don't. If the statement "whites don't use the n-word" is false, then obviously the statement "whites use the n-word" is true. And that's what I dispute. Although it's somewhat ambiguous, it's too much like saying ALL whites use the n-word. I imagine there would be objections if somebody wrote "women don't like math" or "blacks steal and lie" even if both statements are true of some women and of some blacks. I am guessing that the objections might even involve expletives or disparagement. Yet there is the expectation that statements like this can be made about whites or about men and they should pass with no objections.

[PoliticalAmazon]

10. Some people may wonder: "Why did Schuster play Bush's bitch....

in the lead-up to the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq? If Schuster had been doing his job, there would not be such a large butcher's bill to pay now.

[BobbyVan]

12. Wow, DU'ers will turn on you FAST if you say anything negative about His Holiness Barack the Obama

[LSK]

15. did you miss all the Keith Olbermann, Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, Move-on hate threads???

:wtf:

[knixphan]

27. ditto.

[PoliticalAmazon]

16. It's a bullshit comment Schuster made. He's never once asked about....

the kind of people McCain or Hillary are hanging with.

In addition, I don't consider our Buddhist temple's leader someone that I "hang" with. When I went to Christian church, I didn't "hang" with the minister.

Finally, the MSM's reputation is shot after McClellan's book. Many of us knew the score, knew they were regurgitating as fact any bullshit the Bush administration spoon-fed them.

They need to really clean up their act and do their fucking jobs. Then, and only then, they can turn to bullshit douchebaggery hit statements on candidates.

"Hang with," INDEED.

[Arkansas Granny]

11. The problem, as I see it, is not so much the remarks that Pfleger made,

but the fact that he made them from the pulpit. As a citizen, he has the right of freedom of speech and can say whatever he wants about Hillary or any of the other candidates. However, when he makes political statements in the context of a sermon, it appears to me, to be a violation of the separation of church and state.

[amandabeech]

39. And the Federal Income Tax Code.

Political speech like that may cause the IRS to investigate the church to see if it still deserves its tax-exempt status.

[indimuse]

13. the GOP is Laying low right now!

They know....Obama is the MOST easy to beAT.

[scheming daemons]

17. Yeah.... that's why the likes of Rove, Limbaugh, Hannity etc are working so hard for her..

[Bucky]

18. Yep, sounds like the media are giving Obama more of that free ride we keep hearing about.

[liberaldem4ever]

19. Shuster is on a roll today

He played a clip of Dennis Kucinich saying that he saw something in the sky he couldn't identify and then said said Dennis "believed in little green men". I've seen things in the sky I can't identify since I'm not an expert and I DON'T believe in little green men. Shuster is full of crap today, IMO.

[ampad]

22. WTH

Why is that asshole messing with Dennis? Sheesh, anything to take away from the fact that they help lie this country into an illegal war. I don't even turn the MSM on anymore.

[PoliticalAmazon]

24. EXACTLY. They are attacking McClellan and anybody who was RIGHT about Iraq...

to coverup how WRONG they were.

[liberaldem4ever]

44. I was so mad at David Shuster-he was acting like an ass

Dennis K. is such a smart, honorable and decent person. Why anybody in the MSM would want to pick on him I don't understand. :grr:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. (I) Am Consistent

I didn't like Shoestrings when he was at FAUX... I didn't like him when he dissed Chelsea and I don't like him now...

[LSK]

21. while others wonder what the big deal is with Pastergate II

Seemed to me he was spot on. Although he should be preaching in church, not auditioning for SNL.

[Cha]

45. This is America..he can preach anywhere

he wants. :)

[stillcool]

23. Hey..it's the day before...

the committee meets. They have to try.

[ErinBerin84]

25. oh well

I'm mixed on Shuster, I turned him on for a minute and he was saying that he found it odd that all of the Republicans are doing a character assasination on Scotty, but aren't even attempting to dispute some of the asserted facts in the book. He seemed the same the other day, definitely a contrast to David Gregory (unless I missed Shuster when he was acting like Gregory. Especially on the first day, he seemed to think that the book was big news). I wondered if it had to do with the Iraq war, I always think of the documentary The Control Room and David Shuster's "It's like the Price Is Right! This is hilarious!" remark- i.e, buying into the war propaganda. I wonder what he thinks about it in retrospect.

also, now whenever a pastor story comes up on the news, I think of that Joy Division song Isolation, only replace it with "Pastorbattttionnn....Pastorbatttttion."

[TwilightGardener]

28. "Crowd"? Are these men criminals, or just publicity-seeking men of the cloth?

Jesus, you'd think he hangs out with Hamas on slow Thursday afternoons, and the Phelps family on weekends. And goes to Dahmer reunion barbecues.

[tsuki]

29. Naw, I wonder "What's with this crowd Shuster hangs out with?" nt

[shaniqua6392]

31. I thought Obama supporters loved David Schuster!!

I guess he is on the shit list now. I wish we could make up our mind who we like and who we don't like. Besides that, he has a good point. The public, also known as voters, are going to begin to wonder about his associations. The GOP is going to use these pastor issues in the GE.

[ampad]

32. "there's a black man stealing my show"

:rofl: I'm sorry but I like the crowd Obama surrounds himself with.

[aaronbees]

40. I'm more worried about the crowd Shuster hangs with .... eom

[IsItJustMe]

42. Are these part of the new right wing talking points?

[Beacool]

43. Oh, so Shuster is NOW a jerk,

but not for many when he was saying that Hillary was pimping Chelsea.

[FrenchieCat]

48. This is so stoopid, till it ain't even funny.

There will be nothing left for John McCain to use. Nothin'! ;)

[ruby slippers]

49. some wonder about the crowd that hangs out with David Shuster, too....