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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:10 PM
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An explanation of Hillary's end game: "The Irresistible Pull Of Irrational Behavior?
This new book may help explain what is actually happening to HRC:

Sway The Irresistible Pull Of Irrational Behavior. Ori Brafman and Rom Brafman.

One of the premises of this book is that the pain of loss effects us deeply and causes us to act irrationally and against our own long-term interests. The authors call it "loss aversion." They also cite "commitment" to explain irrational behavior we will keep fighting because we have devoted so many resources to our endeavor. The very act of what we have invested keeps us committed to a continuing investment no
matter how futile the outcome may seem.

This theory would indicate that each of us can easily fall prey to these tendencies. As
we watch Hillary deal with her painful loss of her great dream, I hope we can be more compassionate
and less judgmental of her seeming irrationality. Especially knowing that many of us have acted
similarly in the face of major losses in our lives.



http://www.swaybook.com/reviews.html
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:12 PM
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1. I agree. She is nuts, and her obsession with being president makes conceding difficult.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:27 PM
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2. It is hard to give up a dream. On top of that I think it has some thing to do
with Bill. They used all their skills to get him to the WH and I am sure Hillery is just as smart and may be her dream of not getting there is really hard for her to take. Life is not fair and lets face it she would have never gone far is she had done what Bill did 30 years ago. In a way it is sad. But it has been a man's world most of her life and one has to face that and do as well as she can. Also it may be a lot of people just do not like her. I believe she has worked hard and see no fault as long as she does not hurt the party. I am sorry life has not been fair to women and to 'black' men. On either one we may not be above our un-fairness even now. It is all better than when I grew up that is for sure.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:55 PM
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3. I agree with most everything you said...except the part about
being female..I think that had very little to do with her losing...yes I do think it is hard for as she really thought she would be the next president of the United States..
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:34 PM
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4. If she thinks this way, it's a misreading of what really happened
Edited on Fri May-30-08 04:34 PM by CreekDog
if the idea is that Bill Clinton won in 1992 because he was the "man" and it's not an opportunity she could have had simply because she's a woman, I think that's missing the point.

she's running on knowledge, skills and experience, but that basically never wins elections, it gets you respect, but persona wins. the only time experience matters is a modicum of experience to "qualify" you and then the rest is decided on "persona". heck Kerry was chosen more for his war record than anything else when you think about it.

so the idea that 12 years in public life versus 25 or 35 means that fair voters will choose the one with more years is not borne out by electoral history.

experience is a qualifier to compete, persona is the deciding factor.
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PeterH1969 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:35 PM
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5. What would be irrational would be
a candidate with the most votes getting out of the race.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:38 PM
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7. Clinton has not garnered the most votes. She is not telling the truth
but is lying repeatedly about that to convince gullible people like yourself to continue supporting her in a nomination bid she lost months ago.
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PeterH1969 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:52 PM
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9. Hillary does indeed have the most votes
If you don't believe it, check out this link for the figures. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:07 PM
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12. She doesn't count caucus states, states which voted, states which count
contrary to what Ms. Flick is whispering in your ear.

MI and FL were disqualified. Yep, it's true. In fact, Clinton's people wrote the disposition of FL and MI to which she agreed.

Thanks for today's Clinton Selective & Fuzzy Math, though; it's always entertaining.

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PeterH1969 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:18 PM
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13. Fuzzy math is
thinking that the candidate with fewer votes should be the winner. You must love the electoral college system that allowed Bush with fewer votes to get to the White House.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:21 PM
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14. She lost months ago. Time for her sycophants to pull up their socks and deal with it.
It's Obama time.

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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 08:00 PM
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19. She only has the most votes in her alternate reality. n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:37 PM
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6. It is irrational for any Democrat to believe MI should be seated as Clinton wants.
There is a case for FL but not for MI since Obama wasn't on the ballot.

I think some Clinton supporters have lost sight of the sense of fair play.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:55 PM
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10. "one of the burgeoning number of anti-Obama websites run by Demcrats "
LOL.. you mean Hillaryis44 or Hillaryclintonforum.net of course.

This "cottage industry" will soon be merged into Free Republic - the supporters already are.
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PeterH1969 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:24 PM
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16. Hillary has the most votes and will finish wirh rhe most.
We'll see what the super delegates have to say about that not in June but at the convention. Keep in mind that the super delegates can change their mind and they will if they wake up and realize that Obama can't win the election.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:34 PM
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18. WELCOME TO DU.. your stay will be brief, but memorable.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:58 PM
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11. More like the pull of drinking too much whiskey
She has been drinking a lot lately.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:24 PM
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15. I think the lure is more like watching a train wreck....
You know it's going to be ugly but you just can't turn away.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:29 PM
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17. Hm. The gambler's fallacy has already been well-explored.
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