Bill Clinton's "Enemies List?" You guessed it--the media, and the "MoveOn crowd."

[flpoljunkie]

Bill Clinton’s enemies list?

By KENNETH P. VOGEL

Listen to audio of Bill Clinton's conference call below.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10715.html

With Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign on the verge of defeat, Bill Clinton has been placing blame on enemies including a brazenly biased media that tried to suppress blue-collar votes, a deep-pocketed anti-war group that endorsed rival Barack Obama and weak-willed party leaders unable to stand up to either of these nefarious forces.

Pieced together from the former president’s public remarks at his wife’s campaign events and a private conversation last week with top donors to her campaign, the theory goes something like this: After Hillary recovered from a string of losses to rival Barack Obama with March 4 wins in Texas and Ohio, powerful forces conspired to pressure the superdelegates who will decide the nomination to back Obama by discouraging her supporters from voting and discounting the value of those votes she nonetheless received.

While the former president has offered parts of this theory publicly, he fleshed it out more explicitly during a conference call last week with maxed-out donors to his wife’s campaign, a transcript of which has been obtained by Politico.

After rattling off a series of poll numbers showing Hillary Clinton faring better than Obama against McCain, Bill Clinton told donors: “We are in the strongest conceivable position electorally and not in a good fix with the superdelegates, because they have felt all the pressure from the Obama side, from the media, from the MoveOn crowd — who they think is an automatic ATM machine for everybody for life. So, they’re reluctant to take on all that.”

[4themind]

1. He sounds 'bitter'

didn't nixon have an enemies list?

[roguevalley]

39. I think there really is something wrong with him regarding the bypass

operation. To do this in the face of their existence being a champion of his situation shows me something is wrong with bill.

[blm]

45. He's screwed over Dems since 1993. By 9/2004 he screwed over Gore and Kerry

and of course, every Dem who wanted to believe Clinton governed in the best interest of the country.

He has been nothing but a Bushprotecting plant in our party before, during and after his presidency.

[sfam]

2. Perhaps someone should clue Bill in to how "MoveOn" got their name...nt

[AllentownJake]

3. Moveon.org

The same organization that saved his ass from having to resign.

[PoliticalAmazon]

4. Good point. See, they discard those who disagree with them. n/t

[babylonsister]

7. MoveOn was formed in response to Clinton's impeachment.

You'd think he'd be a bit more grateful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoveOn.org

Formed in response to the impeachment of President Clinton,<4> it has been cited in some accounts as a factor which helped propel the Democratic Party to power in the 2006 election.<5>

[hughee99]

19. So by the logic I've seen from the Clinton campaign...

If it weren't for Bill, there wouldn't even be a MoveOn.org. They should show more gratitude to Bill.

[rainbow4321]

30. Keep in mind this is the same campaign that disses the TX 2 step

but didn't have a problem with it when BC went thru the process...twice. Difference being, HE won the caucus stats and HRC lost them. Once they figured out that she would be losing the caucus part of our primary (and the delegates that go with it) all we heard from them was how unfair the 2 step process was...boo-hoo, boo-hoo. Yet NO one in the M$M bothered to confront them about this sudden change of attitude towards the TX system!!

[Shakespeare]

11. Yup. The irony is almost suffocatingly huge.

What a shame that he's stooped so low.

[Raine]

12. So now it's "under the bus" with them

fall from "grace" and you fall right under that ole bus. :eyes: No good deed every goes unpunished with the Clinton crowd, one "mis-step" and it's off with your head. :-(

[Yael]

26. Ding, ding, ding!

Ungrateful son-of-a-bitch.

[VolcanoJen]

42. Clintons only like you when they need you.

They discard anyone who is no longer useful to them.

[nichomachus]

47. Sounds like another dynastic family that we know

[LSparkle]

5. HRC also referred to MoveOn as being a "big ATM machine" ...

They're obsessed with the "little guys" donating all that money to
Obama! The Clintons were behind the DLC's appealing to BUSINESS
to fund the Democratic Party and now they're PISSED that Obama's
campaign has made that money less important than fundraising from
"normal people" ... Sorry, guys, but the DLC era is OVER! We've
got a couple of MILLION DONORS who can just keep on giving like
Energizer bunnies!!!!! The door has been tweaked open and ...
HERE COMES THE RIFF-RAFF!!!

:rofl:

[Raine]

15. Yeah the absolute GALL of the RIFF RAFF

actually having a say in anything instead of the elite insiders...THAT infuriates them the most, Oh MY GAWD! :wow:

[texastoast]

17. Those elite insiders won't like this

On both sides of the aisle. That is why it is so important for the people to not stop the support once the election is over. Must stay active. Must stay active.

They are waiting for us to get tired.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

40. nor those foreign donors to Bill's "libarary" fund nor those who paid him to give speeches

They paid for this primary dammit! They bought them a poitician, they want
their money's worth.

[beac]

46. As opposed to the tiny, individual serving-sized ATM she has in her home in Westchester.

It's really SO much more convenient for her, and there's no chance of picking up riff-raff cooties like at a public auto-teller.





(you know, Energized Riff-Raff for Obama would make a great bumper sticker... ;) )

[Skidmore]

6. Bring it on, Bill.

I would be one of those on your enemy list. We stood together and took on the * administration and a lazy-assed legislature during this god awful war while you cheesed it up with Poppy and his boy. We demanded justice in 2000 when you were silent. Oh, yeah, I forgot. We stood up for you and covered your naked ass when you were caught with your pants down. Bring it on.

[Kahuna]

34. Damn right!!! Say goodbye to the drama. Vote Obama!

:patriot:

[polichick]

8. What an ungrateful prick that guy is!

[LaurenG]

9. Oh yes, that is the reason I wouldn't vote for "them" unless they were my last choice

x(

[PM7nj]

10. Seriously? He hates MoveOn now?

What the fuck happened to this man.

[gateley]

13. Victims.

They remind me of men who physically abuse women and say "she MADE me do it -- it's her fault."

Same with Rush blaming the pharmaceutical companies for his addiction.

Never taking responsibility for themselves. That's the Clintons.

[WeDidIt]

14. WOW, I joined MoveOn in '98

when we were all about the Senate just censuring Clinton and moving on.

[emilyg]

21. I unjoined this year.

[WeDidIt]

25. Too bad for you

I donated again after they went with the overwhelming super majority of their membership and endorsed Obama.

[emilyg]

27. Nah - too bad for them.

They lost my regular donations.

[WeDidIt]

28. No great loss n/t

[roguevalley]

41. sad. well, at least you aren't on Bill's hit list.

[jeff30997]

16. Dear Bill ...

In the past I respected and liked you.A lot.

I supported you through The Ken Starr Circus.

But now I see you as a clown.

You scrapped your legacy and disappointed most of us.

Go Cheney yourself.

[Vattel]

18. An enemies list? OMG

Oh wait, there's no enemies list. But the gall of Bill Clinton to suggest that money from the MoveOn crowd is being used to support Obama. Oh wait, the suggestion is true. But Bill Clinton is bad!!! So I don't care what I say about him.

[flpoljunkie]

23. Ludicrous to think Obama's donations come primarily from MoveOn members. Just ain't so, Bill!

[Hansel]

20. OMG, can these people ever quit whining? eom

[NC_Nurse]

22. They're so grateful to MoveOn, how charming...

:eyes:

[Yael]

24. Translation: We would be winning if it wasn't for the Democrats

Bitter much, Mr. President?

[madfloridian]

29. That is the lowest.

Thanks for posting that.

[Scooter24]

31. Ridiculous comments and totally ungrateful...

Clinton asked the crowd to remember “every time you turn on the television and you listen to one of those people dissin’ her, they all have a college degree. They’ve all got a good job. They all got health care. And they’re having no trouble fillin’ up their gas tank.”
--------

I respect the man, but he should not stereotype us so easily. I fit into the category described above, and he is making it sound as if I don't give a damn about people who earn less than I do because I support Obama and am critical of his wife. He really is stretching here and it's a bit disappointing.

[beac]

49. And Hillary had "no trouble" filling up HER campaign's tank every time the meter got below "E."

I don't understand why this isn't discussed more. If she hadn't been pumped in the super-premium unleaded personal fortune fuel over and over, she would have been out months ago.

If she's so "popular" then why couldn't she raise any money?

[billyoc]

32. Bill, STFU.

NOnono, just STFU.

[Kahuna]

33. The comments on that blog are dissing Bubba left and right...

I hope he gets to read them.

[TexasObserver]

35. Bill has a lifelong antipathy toward attractive, classy women.

That's why all his indiscretions are with women who are bottom feeders or slump busters.

[RazBerryBeret]

36. I don't think he should use the words

"good Fix" when talking about super delegates....

[bunnies]

37. Bill can kiss my move-on ass.

Thats all I have to say about that.

[EFerrari]

38. How did the media try to suppress blue collar votes?

:wtf:

[flpoljunkie]

43. Excellent question. You will have to ask Bill Clinton to explain what he meant.

[frylock]

44. glad i never voted for that guy

[seafan]

48. Bill Clinton's "enemies list": Biased media, MoveOn.org and weak-willed party leaders ((Oh, my.))

Bill Clinton’s enemies list



Photo: AP

By KENNETH P. VOGEL
Politico

May 30, 2008

With Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign on the verge of defeat, Bill Clinton has been placing blame on enemies including a brazenly biased media that tried to suppress blue-collar votes, a powerful anti-war group that endorsed rival Barack Obama and weak-willed party leaders unable to stand up to either of these nefarious forces.

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Um, pardon me. Does he remember these events?



Clinton Allies Suppress the Vote in Nevada, January 15, 2008


A Feisty Bill Clinton Defends Nevada Lawsuit, January 17, 2008


Officials: Clinton aides threatened lawsuit over Texas caucuses, February 28, 2008



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