Obama supporters-Will you vote for Hillary in Nov. (assuming she's the nominee?)

[2rth2pwr]

No poll. Just yes or no and why not if no. Thanks.

[texastoast]

1. Yes. n/t

[SemiCharmedQuark]

2. Yes

[marmar]

3. Yes, but with clenched teeth.....

n/t

[virtualobserver]

4. of course

[polichick]

5. Not if Obama is an indie candidate.

[Elspeth]

27. So you're putting your candidate above party. I'm not doing that, but I get called a racist anyway

...

[polichick]

33. If the party is dopey enough to blow it AGAIN...

I'll switch to indie. Ive worked on behalf of the party for 30+ years ~ enough is enough.

[Elspeth]

36. Wow. If I felt that way, I'd be vilified on this board.

I can't believe the double standard here.

[WeDidIt]

42. NEither Obama nor Hillary would go indie

it's a bogus mantra a lot of people use on both sides.

For the record, anybody who would not vote for the nominee is out of their fucking minds regardless of who they support right now.

[polichick]

44. If you're a Hillary supporter and she runs as an indie - you should...

...vote for her imo.

[Elspeth]

70. Are you serious?

Why are you on Democratic Underground, then?

[2rth2pwr]

96. There would be loud calls for you to be immediately TS'd.

[WeDidIt]

37. Obama would never go indie

If somehow the skies opened up and a choir of angels came down to sing the praises of Hillary and she miraculouslyu convinced the remaining super delegates to endorse her, Obama would graciously concede and endorse her as the Democratic nominee.

[polichick]

48. Our loss then - I'd like to see the end of this archaic 2-party system.

[WeDidIt]

52. IF you ended it today

it would solidify around two parties within a generation.

IT's how our system is built. Parties are not monolithic creations bujt are working coalitions. What we currently ahve is not unlike the parlimentary system in other countries, though the coalitions are formed within the aprty structures rather than within the halls of government.

[polichick]

54. I honestly think Obama could win (with the right veep) as an indie...

...against McCain and Hillary ~ and it would mean an amazing leap for this country.

[WeDidIt]

55. Then his presidency would be an utter and complete failure

becuase the two parties in the Congress would not even begin to cooperate. Instead, REpublicans and Democrats would join together to make the independent presiden irrelevent.

[polichick]

56. As Barack says, "Not this time. Not this year."

I think many would jump at the chance to get beyond the bullshit.

[WeDidIt]

57. Here's anohter reason, it's too late to get on many ballots as an independent

many more states have sore loser laws.

In the end, he'd be lucky to get on the ballot in 15 states.

[polichick]

59. Yeah, I don't know if it's actually doable in that respect...

But I'd sure vote for him if it was!

[Fox Mulder]

6. She won't be the nominee.

So this question is meaningless.

[HockeyMom]

7. No, once for Senator was enough

[Elspeth]

31. So you will abandon the ticket if you don't get your way.

I vote the ticket and am loyal to the party. Why are you willing to cut and run?

[Blondiegrrl]

66. delete

[JoFerret]

103. Fickle and foolish.

.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

8. Yes!

[JimGinPA]

9. Which Party Will She Be Running For?

Since Obama will be the Democratic nominee I doubt many of his supporters here would vote for her anyway.

[RL3AO]

10. Not sure.

[Yael]

11. No. I don't vote third party

I will be voting for the Democratic Nominee, Barack Obama.

[jpertello]

12. Did you just ask

if I would welcome Sasquatch into my home if turns out to be real? It's the same sort of question.

[bluestateguy]

13. Sure.

But I won't lift a finger for her in the campaign. No money, none of my time volunteering for her. Just a mark next to her name on the ballot. That's it.

[hughee99]

14. Yes...

I figure it would be like a prostate exam. It would be a very unpleasant experience, afterword I'll feel violated, but it would be a necessary evil because the alternative is worse.

[Occam Bandage]

15. Sure! She's got a great Senate record.

[ericgtr]

16. If she's the nominee I will have to but I won't like it

The alternative is too unthinkable.

[Pirate Smile]

17. Sure.

[AndyTiedye]

18. Aw Come On, She's Still Way Better than McSame

We will need to lay in a large supply of

[RooferDem]

At this point, it is difficult to see how she can win the nomination

unless its an inside job. If she wins and can somehow convince me its legit, than so be it. But the numbers aren't there.

In that case, I wouldn't vote against her. I'd probably just tune out politics for the rest of my life. :(

[Kceres]

19. Yes, absolutely.

1) I have always supported my party. 2) If the Repulicans win again it will be terrible for my country and the Earth.

[WeDidIt]

20. If the skies open up and a miracle happens, YOU'RE GODDAMNED RIGHT I'D VOTE FOR HER!!!!

[hokies4ever]

21. Why no Obama hate tonight in your thread 2rth2pwr?

I came in here bracing for some hateful anti-Obama rhetoric. This almost resembles a reasonable thread. :rofl:

[madrchsod]

22. i`m a democrat

[godai]

23. Democratic nominee, Nov 08?...Yeah, I'd vote for her.

Now, what's my reward for that commitment?

[gateley]

24. Yes. I'm a Democrat. nt

[texas_indy]

25. Yep, she is still better than McCain. However, IMO we will lose if she is the nominee........nt

[bullimiami]

26. why would hillary be the nominee at this point?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. No.

The reason is that I view the Clintons and their DLC cohorts as responsible for turning a moderately liberal party into a pale imitation of the republican party.

[Elspeth]

32. It's a principled reason at least

But do you really think Obama is any different?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

47. A good question.

I think Obama is a politician who will do what politicians do. That is, do what is necessary to achieve and retain power.

However, I also think that Obama will try to move away from the DLC politics of winning by appealing to the right because the policies of the right are abject failures.

Thus, I think, that he will try to move left because the tide is beginning to turn that way, or at least, the tide is rejecting the right.

I doubt that he will, personally, pose any real threat to the corrupt system now in power, but (admittedly a big but) he may set in motion a movement in that direction simply by not rejecting the left automatically.

Something the Clintons have done throughout their political career.

[Yael]

67. Well stated.

I for one am not even thinking about the rolloercoaster ahead. I am just glad that the DLC has been handed its hat and the cab has been called.

[Elspeth]

72. The lesser of two evils, then

You still have hope.

[melody]

29. I will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is n/t

[madame defarge]

30. N.F.W.

[Lerkfish]

34. if she's the nominee, yes.

can you say the same about Obama, or is your Obamahatred too intense?

[Madam Mossfern]

I'll vote for the democratic candidate

even if I have to hold my nose. Your assumption of her candidacy is quite far fetched however as the only way she can prevail is by bending the rules and extortion and exaggerations.

[salguine]

35. No, because I can't stand the sight of her.

[napi21]

38. YES Absolutely! I voted for Barack, but it was a very difficult decision

for me to make. I was torn by trying to figure out which candidate would best be able to eat the Pub! Each of our candidates has positives & negatives. I was so very afraid Barack was trying to run such an honest and above board campaign, he would NOT "fight back the very mean & nasty" Pub attacks hard enough to beat them. Hillary wouldn't have THAT problem, but I was afraid memories of Bill would harm HER too much to win.

I will proudly vote for whoever our winner is!

[napi21]

39. YES Absolutely! I voted for Barack, but it was a very difficult decision

for me to make. I was torn by trying to figure out which candidate would best be able to eat the Pub! Each of our candidates has positives & negatives. I was so very afraid Barack was trying to run such an honest and above board campaign, he would NOT "fight back the very mean & nasty" Pub attacks hard enough to beat them. Hillary wouldn't have THAT problem, but I was afraid memories of Bill would harm HER too much to win.

I will proudly vote for whoever our winner is!

[mcctatas]

40. Yes....

because no matter what I think of how she has run her campaign, she is leaps and bounds better than McCain and won't totally suck....

[Scooter24]

41. Yes. As I said in my Obama support thread...

back in April, I will support the Democratic candidate. However, I chose to endorse Obama both with my vote and with my money during this primary. I sure hope Obama wins the nomination though, or my boyfriend and I would have lost $4600. lol

[wellstone dem]

43. Y.E.S.

[RBInMaine]

45. I would, BUT it ain't gonna happen. SO END THE PIPE DREAM AND MOVE ON !!

[Bright Eyes]

46. Yes.

I'll have to be intoxicated, though.

[ObamaTime2008]

51. Me too

but I would vote for her

[dailykoff]

49. Not to worry.

:hi:

[book_worm]

50. Yes. Most polls indicate that Obama supporters are more willing to vote for her than her

supporters are willing to vote for Obama.

[CreekDog]

53. I'll be voting Democratic no matter what

:hi:

[Why Syzygy]

58. Still no. Betrayal.

[Foolacious]

60. Yes, absolutely.

[Danger Mouse]

61. That's a laughable assumption, but yes, I would...

and vomit afterwards.

[polmaven]

81. Just aws long as you

have left the voting booth first. Don't get any on the ballot.

[H2O Man]

62. Sure.

If she had won, I would have.

[yewberry]

63. I would. nt

[5X]

64. NO, bush doesn't need another term. n/t

[Sancho]

65. Yes

I will vote for the Democratic candidate.

[sellitman]

68. If she "pulls it out" ...Yes. She has a "D" next to her name.

I would hope you feel the same way if Obama wins.

[Orsino]

69. Not a yes or no question.

First, tell me how she wins the nomination.

[grannylib]

71. It's an unlikely scenario (not an assumption, as you state) but

yes, I'd vote for the Democratic candidate over the rePuke any day. I'd not be happy about it though, because if Senator Clinton WERE to become the nominee, I think we'd lose in November.

[Forkboy]

73. Sure.

[scarletwoman]

74. Since 2002 I have consistently declared that I will never vote for Hillary Clinton for president.

I have not changed my mind, nor do I expect to.

It has confounded me why ANY "progressive" would want to return the DLC/Third Way/New Democrats to power. To me it absolutely defies logic. It leaves me aghast and in despair.

I'm serious. I literally weep for the naivite of all the good "liberals" who are so misinformed, uninformed, malinformed, and so lacking in analytical skills and historical perspective as to seriously contemplate for even a moment the delusion that putting Hillary Clinton in the White House would be anything but than an unmitigated disaster for an actual progressive re-alignment of our party and our government.

When I see Hillary supporters mock Obama supporters for being "kool-aid drinkers" or "cultists", it just makes me wonder what special kind of blindness and cognitive dissonnence it takes to ignore the clear evidence of the globalist/neo-liberal/imperialist/militarist agenda that the Clintons serve.

I'll be blunt, seeing liberals support the Clintons drives me to madness. It makes no sense to me, and it feels like a massive betrayal of everything we've fighting for all these years.

No, I won't vote for Clinton. And I honestly can't imagine why anyone would. I'll forgive those who foisted her on us in their ignorance, but I will never tell them it was okay.

Peace,
sw

[Generic Brad]

75. If she had earned it fair and square - yes

But she hasn't and she can't. If she becomes the nominee this go around at this stage of the game, it will not be fair or square - so, no. I would not vote for her or support her under that circumstance.

[Yotun]

76. Now, no. If she had actually won, yes.

The only way for her to be the nominee in November NOW is if this is stolen from Obama, and the idea of democracy subverted. I will not support that, and I think it sets a dangerous precedent. And please spare me the fearmongering about what McCain will do. Hillary has proven she is capable of lying and using the worst kind of electoral fraud and math manipulation to have her way no matter what. THAT is a dangereous person to have on the top spot. Had she won the process I would, while holding my nose.

Also spare me the party loyalty crap. Truth is the US is a country of 300 million people. Do you really think that 300 million people can be evenly divided into two camps, with 150 million people having the same ideologies and positions, in opposition to the other 150? The democratic party is not some noble family ot group to unite together because we all have the same values and ideas, it is part of a two-party system, there because the political realities and constitution make that system the only viable one, and includes people of all types of ideologies views and believes. There is nothing to 'unite' us, or make us be 'loyal' to 'the party', other than the political reality that the other guys are worse.

[quaker bill]

77. It depends

on how she ends up getting the nomination. There are certain paths I could support with a vote. Had she won it straight up, I would have had no problem at all. I have voted for many democratic candidates that I did not support through the primaries, her husband being one.

[progetto]

78. YES, and Hillary supporters should pledge to vote for Obama

as well if he's the nominee. Nobody should be talking of voting for McCain.

[rurallib]

79. really not sure, serioiusly

I had damn near forgiven her about a month ago. But she has really out done just about every bad politician I ever remember this month.
If I would, it would be only to sa y big "fuck you" to the RW media. Then maybe we sell out and pack up and move to Canadia.

[jenmito]

80. Wow-I'm flattered that you'd start a copy-cat thread to my thread!

[Kokonoe]

82. Yes, and about Hillary

I would almost feel sorry for any bloody rag repub that tries to fraud the election from (bulldog) Hillary.

[redstate_democrat]

83. Hell no

and there is no explanation required.

[nvme]

84. with a caveat

yes whole heartedly, but someone would have to stand behind with a mop and bucket because I know I will become incontinent shortly thereafter.

[backwoodsbob]

85. yes

nt

[goletian]

86. she cant win fairly at this point. if she could, the answer would be yes.

[briv1016]

87. Yes

Any Democrat is better then McCain.

[Warren Stupidity]

88. In the universe where that is possible: of course.

[Stop Cornyn]

89. no. If the Rapture DOES come, I'm going with Obama, and Hillary will get votes of those Left Behind

The Rapture is pretty much Hillary's best chance of winning the nomination.

[billyoc]

90. Yes.

[democrattotheend]

91. Yes

As tempting as it would be not to, too many people will be harmed by 4 more years of Republican rule. This isn't a game...people's lives are at stake here.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

92. Yes.

[psychmommy]

93. good luck at the rally tomorrow. we'll be watching you on tv.

weatherman is calling for rain, dress appropriately. don't forget your pots and pans.

[JoFerret]

105. Very sweet of you

to care so much.

[abburdlen]

94. Democratic nominee?

yes.

[jsmirman]

95. When she's not, will you support Obama

or will you break all your teeth on some tombstone pizza???

[ruby slippers]

97. yes, but with grave reservation

[LordJFT]

98. yes of course, but the question is based on false premises

[cliffordu]

99. Only if she gives me a pony.

[Kool Kitty]

100. Of course I would. I'm a Democrat.

[TahitiNut]

101. .

[GreenTea]

102. Get real...it's OVER! The final nail will be on Tuesday when Obama wins....

most of the delegates in SD & MT....then will you say it's over for Clinton, finally?

[Imagevision]

104. I agree, silly post...

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

106. Of course. n/t

[Perry Logan]

107. Um...I thought it was all over.

You Bammers should get your story straight. I've read 2000 threads here assuring me it was all over!