Obama's latest headache

[anamnua]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/980550,CST-NWS-sweet31.article
Speaking as a Catholic I wish the church would throw this guy out on his ass once and for all.

[keep_it_real]

1. He seems like a fun guy; has a sense of humor

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

5. He was hilarious!! I spit coffee all over my compute screen!

[LTR]

6. I like him

And for people calling him Stephen Fetchit or saying he's mocking blacks, his congregation is mostly black and he is very close to Jesse Jackson. They even got arrested together at a protest. He's well-liked in the Chicago black community.

I would actually go to his services. He's a riot!

[butterfly77]

They just don't like the tone..

they want him to be meek and mild, they can't stand to see emotion..

[JoFerret]

55. Really?

Gosh.
I guess sexist, racist mocking and demeaning people is kinda fun.
Hate is good too. Pandering to emotionalism always a laugh.
Jeering, gloating, snarling and prancing are amusing.

I agree he is very funny. If you keep the sound off.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

2. Speaking as an atheist I wish people would stop Pastorbating and talk about the issues. nt

[Doityourself]

7. Speaking as an Agnostic, I agree with you

[QC]

27. Speaking as an Episcopalian, I wish that all the candidates would drop the nonstop godtalk

and get back to politics: you know, stuff like health care and the economy and national security and the like.

Remember how we used to gripe about George W. Bush's constant godtalk? Suddenly we don't think it's a big deal anymore, since Obama started doing it. How many "spiritual advisors" does one politician need? Obama seems to have more clergy advising him than Benedict XVI.

[papapi]

34. Speaking as a Xtian pagan...give me some mushrooms and wake me in the morning.

[Occam Bandage]

36. Speaking as a Zen Greek Orthodox Hare Krishna,

I'm just trying to figure out what to have for lunch.

[Cassandra]

49. Tofu dolmas in curry sauce?

Just a thought.

[11 Bravo]

41. Speaking as a Christian, I agree with you.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

56. speaking as a...meh never mind , my karma just ran over my dogma

[NightWatcher]

3. is your third post going to be "rezko, rezko, rezko"?

stop recycling the garbage

[Occam Bandage]

4. Why? Pfelger's done tons of good work as a social activist.

[anamnua]

10. So did Jim Jones

There's a cryptic clue there for the more perceptive type of DUer.

[Occam Bandage]

15. ...and? Seriously, Pfleger's done more to help the poor than most dioceses do.

And you'd defrock him because he gave a speech insulting your queen?

[Doityourself]

16. Dioceses take from the poor..give me your money or burn in Hell

[Occam Bandage]

19. Pfleger isn't into that. It's caused a lot of friction with the higher-ups.

He last made the news when he asked his parishioners to buy time from prostitutes, in order to bring them to drug treatment centers, job training programs, clinics, and churches--if they wanted to. He's into direct assistance, not donations to repair cathedrals.

[Doityourself]

21. Good for him. I'm sure that pisses off the "religious" power structure!

[anamnua]

35. There have been a whole series of misdemeanors

You know this perfectly well. Google Pfleger, Wright, Farrakhan etc.

[Kool Kitty]

50. Good examples of why religion and politics don't mix.

I'm more interested in their stand on the issues than which church they bend the knee in.

[Forkboy]

38. Not a fraction as clever as you think it is.

And quite frankly it makes you look insane.

[me b zola]

46. What a loon

to compare the good father to JJ.

See ya in St Louie, screwy! :rofl:

[Irishonly]

8. Are You Just As Upset About Clinton Surrogates Speaking Ill

of Senator Obama or any of the racial intonations of their speeches or is it a one way street? I have hated both racism and sexism in the campaigns but I don't find too many Clinton supporters even willing to acknowledge racism.

[grantcart]

9. why is he a super delegate?

[GoldieAZ49]

13. no he is a 'super' disgrace to the church

[goldcanyonaz]

11. I agree, he really is a scary man

[GoldieAZ49]

12. I agree

he is a disgrace to the church

He knowingly sought out national attention by his performance


He should be nationally chastised by being excommunicated from the church.


Trinity church should lose their tax exempt status and be charged for back taxes as well

[Occam Bandage]

17. So you're saying a man who spent the last few decades

working for the poor, the disenfranchised, the prostitutes, and children should be sentenced to eternal Hell, because he insulted Hillary.

Man, and I thought the Obama guys could be a bit insane.

[GoldieAZ49]

20. For all that he said, not just insulting Hillary

God will decide his eternal fate, the church for his political posturing

[Doityourself]

24. God will applaud a man that serves the less fortunate and doesn't live in a gilded castle while

taking money (no robbing) the poor blind by making them feel they must pay their 10% to the church, or burn in Hell.

[Occam Bandage]

25. And for what non-Clinton comments do you think he should be Hellbound?

[GoldieAZ49]

43. God determines that not you or I

However the Catholic church does not endorse politics from the pulpit.

Most of this country prefers the separation of church and state. That you don't makes you an exception. Enjoy being 'special'.

[Occam Bandage]

44. You've attempted, in calling for his excommunication.

I've in no way defended "politics from the pulpit."

[AllentownJake]

30. I'm sure God will punish him...

wait the point of Christianity is forgiveness by God for your shortcomings.

If God can forgive Peter for denying him I'm sure the good Father will be fine for telling a joke about the Godess of Peace.

IDIOT.

[anamnua]

37. ''should be sentenced to eternal Hell'' !!

Aw c'mon. Where did I say that? I think he should be removed from the priesthood as he has clearly ignored several warnings. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Occam Bandage]

45. Where you claimed he should be excommunicated, and not simply defrocked.

Laicizing, too, would be an extraordinarily harsh punishment for what amounts to a very minor infraction.

[anamnua]

48. Where, pray tell,

did I use the word excommunication?

[Occam Bandage]

54. So I am to assume that your post #37 was not intended to be in the subthread in which it was?

[anamnua]

57. Sorry, you have me completely confused nt

[elocs]

14. Neither Senator Clinton or Obama are responsible for everything said or done on their behalfs

by people who claim to support them. To be perfectly honest, neither of them have control over what their own spouses say either. Both of them probably create enough headaches for themselves by what they say themselves.

[Exultant Democracy]

18. I wonder how many racist heads will explode when they see a white preacher at Trinity.

This could actually help him by pulling energy away from the Wright story more then anything.

[GoldieAZ49]

22. nope, he is as racist as Wright and Farrakhan

racism doesn't have a skin color

[Doityourself]

26. Yeah..we know...Gerri Ferraro and Bill Clinton proves that point too

[Occam Bandage]

29. And I assume you're basing this on his life's work towards racial equality and reconciliation,

and not on one sentence in a comedic speech, right? Great.

[AllentownJake]

31. I was pissed

when he sued the Archdioces for excluding his parish from Athletics becuase white people were scared of playing against a black church.

That bastard.

[Occam Bandage]

32. Yeah, that was really "reverse-racist" of him.

If he were sensitive to racial issues, he wouldn't have made the white kids come down and play in a black neighborhood.

[AllentownJake]

33. Seriously

White people are scared. We must respect their fear.

[gateley]

23. Regardless of how one feels about him, he has nothing to do with Obama. nt

[AllentownJake]

28. Right we should throw out the progressive priest

Because the ones bashing our candidates during the invocations at GOP events are so much better :sarcasm:

Do you know anything about this guy other than this event?

[Arugula Latte]

39. A pox on all religions.

:hide:

[Kool Kitty]

51. Hear, hear.

[still_one]

40. OK. One question, why would any Catholic vote for mccain, after hagee's anti-Catholic views

It should be noted mccain did NOT disavow hagee after his anti-Catholic views became public, but only after hagee started to commend hitler

I would hope most Catholics realize this, and also realize it was mccain who sought out hagee, even when his anti-Catholic position was known

[anonymous171]

42. Who cares? How is this even related to Obama?

[Vinca]

47. I heard the guy who collects Obama's household rubbish called

Hillary a bad name. Obama needs to renounce and reject him immediately. This will go down in history as the "guilt by association" primary.

[earth mom]

52. Obama is DONE. nt

[FVZA_Colonel]

58. You really think that just because of this?

[earth mom]

59. It would be naive to think it's not. People are SICK of the religious crap already

and now Obama's got TWO preachers who are playing the race card too.

Sorry, but most of America isn't interested this kind of bullshit, it's just pushing people away.

[madrchsod]

53. is`t that up to his parishioners?

the boys in chicago have tried to get rid of him but they can`t. the father serves the poorest of the poor in chicago.

speaking as a christian.. that`s up to his flock not you or i