FL broke the rules. There are NO similarities between this situation and the 2000 election!

[jenmito]

I'm getting so tired of Hillary and her supporters trying to invoke the emotions of what happened to Gore in 2000 (by invoking the movie "Recount") in relation to what happened in this Dem. primary. The rules were broken by FL and MI. The punishment was agreed to UNTIL one side saw they couldn't win legitimately, so they cried "disenfrnchisement" in a desperate attempt to catch the inevitable nominee in the popular vote. SHAMEFUL.

[flor de jasmim]

1. Or Zimbabwe or S. Africa...

[jenmito]

3. ...

:rofl:

[Occam Bandage]

2. Sure there is. One side is trying to fuck with the rules in order to win an election.

[jenmito]

5. True. It's sad that Hillary is on the side of the Repubs. once again.

[flor de jasmim]

4. Everyone ADMITS they were told their votes wouldn't count!!!

Guess they didn't believe it... or did the Clinton campaign put out a wink-wink-nod-nod?

[KittyWampus]

8. It'd be nice if they admitted the DNC gave them the option to hold a Dem Primary on a later date

and offered $800,000 for them to do it.

[jenmito]

12. Exactly. The Hillary surrogates this morning are admitting it, but then trying to

make it seem like the votes that weren't SUPPOSED to count MUST be counted or it's just like 2000.

My parents in FL didn't vote because they knew their votes wouldn't count-as they were told. They would've voted for Obama.

[Andy823]

20. My view is

This was always a plan on in the Clinton camp, that's why she did not remove her name in Michigan. She went along with the rules, until she knew she was not going to win, then decides to change the rules to suit her own personnel ambitions for power! She doesn't care that many people in Florida did not get out and vote because they were being told their votes would not count. She is making a mockery out of the party, and I hope that it comes back to bite her in the ass when she is up for election in New York again!

[RazBerryBeret]

6. love that pic.

and you're absolutely right.
shameful to compare the two. IMO

[jenmito]

14. Thanks...

I photoshopped it from the original one people post here. Yes-but they're still doing it right now. I doubt it's going to work.

[Eurobabe]

7. The real ones disenfranchised, were the ones who stayed home

because they thought their vote would not count. JMHO.

[flor de jasmim]

10. Exactly, but because 1.75 million voted, the rest don't count, according to Nelson

[Eurobabe]

22. sickening

:eyes:

[glowing]

9. No One campaigned because they all, and that includes CLINTON, pledged

to NOT campaign.. assholes

[jenmito]

19. Exactly.

:hi:

[Mezzo]

11. Bullshit it's not.

If you're an every dem from Florida, you had NO SAY in your party's primary. The only choice you have is to do your civic duty on election day.

Millions of people who had no say in their primary day, went to the polls for their voices to be heard, not some other backward bullshit, 'their votes don't count', and you know it. Most people can't even tell you the head of their state party, let alone have a say in when the GOP controlled state house was going to affix the primaries.

That's a wafting load of horseshit, and you know it.

[jenmito]

18. The only "load of horseshit" is the one you just posted.

MANY intelligent people who would've voted for Obama stayed home because they were TOLD their votes wouldn't count.

[Mezzo]

23. suuuure it is. The exact same argument applies to Hillary.

She didn't campaign there. Many of HER supporters said the same thing, I'll just not bother to vote. You don't get to have it both ways And of COURSE your guy campaigned there And HELD A FUCKING PRESSER. But what.evs.

[jenmito]

27. Puleeeze. Hillary CLINTON had name recognition that Barack Obama didn't have. Lots of people

didn't vote. They followed the rules.

[Yossariant]

13. Count the votes! Don't count the votes!

:wtf: :crazy:

[MethuenProgressive]

15. The Democrat now speaking quotes the poet: "You will be told your voice doesn't count...

... but Speak Anyway!"

[Andy823]

16. I agree with you

Were was Hillary and all these "concerned" supporters of hers back when the DNC told Florida and Michigan that their votes would "NOT" count? Why weren't they coming forward "THEN" demanding that this was wrong?

We never heard one word about this till Hillary knew she was going lose the delegate count, not one damn word. Now it's her "goal" in live to make sure every vote "COUNTS", or should I say every vote for HER counts! This whole mess makes me sick, and when the party suffers just so the ego of one woman can be stroked, it make me wonder what kind of a party this will be if she continues this clear to the convention? Who will she blame when she not only destroys Obama, but the democratic party as well?

I had to turn of the TV because I could not stand to listen people like senator Nelson, who so obviously trying to steal this election for Hillary!

[jenmito]

21. Thanks. Exactly. But she planned on wrapping it up Feb. 5th in which case millions of voters

wouldn't have had their voices heard.

[BeatleBoot]

17. Actually, the parallels are uncanny

[jenmito]

24. Actually, it's apples and oranges. Gore didn't agree FL wouldn't count. Dems. in FL weren't told

their votes wouldn't count.

[Yossariant]

26. Indeed.

[jenmito]

29. That's all you got?!

[Eurobabe]

25. Donna Brazile, those who didn't show up deserve to be represented

IOW, you can't just claim that those who SHOWED up are the only 'victims.' I get the feeling that Donna B. is slightly irritated at this dog and pony show.

[jenmito]

30. That was good! And she knows a thing or two about what happened in 2000!

:hi:

[Eurobabe]

28. Why the fuck did Hillary even step FOOT in these States

when the other candidates abided by the rules? I just don't get it. :shrug:

[Yossariant]

31. You sure don't:

Obama Vows To 'Do What's Right'

September 30, 2007

TAMPA - Barack Obama hinted during a Tampa fundraiser Sunday that if he's the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, he'll seat a Florida delegation at the party's national convention, despite national party sanctions prohibiting it.

Obama also appeared to violate a pledge he and the other leading candidates took by holding a brief news conference outside the fundraiser. That was less than a day after the pledge took effect Saturday, and Obama is the first Democratic presidential candidate to visit Florida since then.

Obama and others have pledged not to campaign in Florida until the Jan. 29 primary except for fundraising, which is what he was doing in Tampa.

But after the fundraiser at the Hyde Park home of Tom and Linda Scarritt, Obama crossed the street to take half a dozen questions from reporters waiting there.

The pledge covers anything referred to in Democratic National Committee rules as "campaigning," and those include "holding news conferences."