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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:22 AM
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Would a 100 percent re-instatement of delegates now create havoc in 2012?
If there are zero negative consequences resulting because of a state's non-adherence to the DNC's rules, won't that simply pave the way for a replay of this clusterf*#@ in 2012 or 2016? What motivation would any state have for not moving their primary if they can expect no punishment for doing so?

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:24 AM
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1. There should be a reward for what they did. I think they deserve 200%, with them ALL going to Hill
Afterall, her campaign had a black woman talking about Apartheid.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:25 AM
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2. We won't need a primary in 2012
As we'll have an incumbent President. But I would say that we need to take the next 8 years to take a serious look at the whole damned process and have something better in place for 2016.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:27 AM
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That's why I included 2016
And agreed, we need to re-invent this process or it's a given that this will happen again.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:27 AM
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3. Amen!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:31 AM
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5. We had an incumbent president in 1980, too. The process should be fixed for
the 2012 election.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:30 AM
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4. Yes it would - and that is a principal objective for many in this crowd
These guys are nothing if not planners.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:32 AM
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6. That thought sure knocked mr. unity Wexler off his game, didn't it?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:35 AM
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10. Poor Mr. Ickes
Was so upset he had to walk out. :rofl:

Giant baby.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:32 AM
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7. There have *already* been negative consequences.. so no, I don't believe so. nt
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:33 AM
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8. There would be peoples' heads blowing up on here
Right now if it happened
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:34 AM
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9. anything goes...
If all these members get together and establish rules for a nominating process, and what they decide doesn't mater, why bother?
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:56 AM
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11. of course, but it won't happen
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 12:28 PM
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12. Yes, it would create havoc. There must be a penalty, and it must be significant.
If there is no penalty, there is no disincentive to future misconduct by states.

Each state has to lose half its delegates, at a minimum. Each state should lose at least half its superdelegates, too, but that probably won't happen.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 12:33 PM
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13. Absolutely! I just tuned in for a glimpse, and I think Levin was complaining that New Hampshire
wasn't supposed to go first this year, but asked for and received a variance before election day. If Florida and Michigan can jump the gun now with no penalty, why should New Hampshire ever step aside to let someone else go first?
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