The wife John McCain callously left behind...

[yourguide]

If you are a HRC supporter still seriously considering "teaching the dnc a lesson" by voting McSexist-asshole-pig, I suggest you spend some quality time with this article. You are no defender of women, women's rights, and feminism if you vote for this sexist fucking asshole. I suspect I know who Carol will be voting for.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

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It was in 1969 that Carol went to spend the Christmas holiday – her third without McCain – at her parents’ home. After dinner, she left to drop off some presents at a friend’s house.

It wasn’t until some hours later that she was discovered, alone and in terrible pain, next to the wreckage of her car. She had been hurled through the windscreen.

After her first series of life-saving operations, Carol was told she may never walk again, but when doctors said they would try to get word to McCain about her injuries, she refused, insisting: ‘He’s got enough problems, I don’t want to tell him.’

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When Carol was discharged from hospital after six months of life-saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter.

Through sheer hard work, Carol learned to walk again. But when John McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self.

Today, she stands at just 5ft4in and still walks awkwardly, with a pronounced limp. Her body is held together by screws and metal plates and, at 70, her face is worn by wrinkles that speak of decades of silent suffering.

-snip-

My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’

Some of McCain’s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.

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When McCain – his hair turned prematurely white and his body reduced to little more than a skeleton – was released in March 1973, he told reporters he was overjoyed to see Carol again.

But friends say privately he was ‘appalled’ by the change in her appearance. At first, though, he was kind, assuring her: ‘I don’t look so good myself. It’s fine.’

-snip-

Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.

‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.’

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One of the most disgusting things about this whole story is below is a photo of her in 1973...4 years after her accident and she is gorgeous.

[FlyingSquirrel]

1. Well that was nice of Ross Perot to pay for all her medical bills.

Perot had no good words to say about McCain either.

But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.

‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.

‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’

[yourguide]

3. The whole thing is fucking disgusting.

Any of these batshit crazy women who are considering voting revenge by putting this asshole in the white house should be hung up by their toes.

[Nay]

31. It is fucking disgusting, but you can bet that all the RWers who thought

Clinton should have been impeached/tarred and feathered/destroyed for having one blow job will be giving McLame a big pass on this. The double standard will apply, just as it always does.

[DinahMoeHum]

8. Got a link? Thanks.

Yep, McCain is as crooked as a dog's hind leg.

:evilfrown:

[yourguide]

11. It's in that article.

[bluestateguy]

21. I'm hoping we can arrange some kind of a Ross Perot endorsement for Obama

It would be nice, and it might help in those states where he polled well.

[Blondiegrrl]

64. *blushes* I didn't even know Ross Perot was still alive. n/t

[senseandsensibility]

26. I wish Ross Perot would go on TV

and tell this story. He is certainly keeping a low profile.

[newmajority]

40. If Ross Perot hates McCain so much

Then why did his flunkie Alex Rodriguez (not the baseball player) set up the "Hillary is 44" hate site, which now openly shills for McLoon?

[my3boyz]

74. Maybe Perot should jump into the race to make sure this opportunist is not elected. lol nt

[yardwork]

2. People who know McCain well loathe the man.

Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.

‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.

And H. Ross Perot has a lot to say about McCain, too. Cruel and selfish.

[yourguide]

4. how can any woman

support this asshole?

[yardwork]

60. I don't know a single one who does.

[creeksneakers2]

28. McCain claims to have been so loyal to his country

He wasn't loyal at all to his wife.

Ted Sampley is not a good source to use, in my opinion. He's a terrible man and there are far better people to get quotes from about McCain.

Ted does not know McCain well. Ted haunted McCain and Kerry's POW/MIA investigation. Ted tried to pass off fraudulent tales there. When it didn't work, Ted physically assaulted McCain. Later, Ted went on to bash John Kerry with the worst kind of lies when Kerry ran for president. McCain defended Kerry, calling Sampley the "one of the most despicable men I have ever met."

While Sampley and others were conning money out of MIA families with lies about US troops being held alive in Vietnam, Sampley told one family that their loved one was hacked up, encased in glass, and put on display in the town square of a Vietnamese City. There was no truth to the story at all.

[yardwork]

59. OMG I wasn't paying attention. That's crazy Ted Sampley from Kinston, NC!

You're right, Sampley's a complete loon and a con artist. Sampley's also one reason that the extreme right nuthatches hate McCain. Too bad for McCain. Heh heh.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

5. Those championing a "protest" vote for McSame seem conspicuously absent.

In my best Seinfeld voice, "What's the deal with that?"

:shrug:

[yourguide]

6. There are still those here who feel that way.

They are not vocal about it because they know they will be TSd.

All I can hope is that they read it and come to their senses.

[Barack_America]

7. What an asshole.

Who acts like that?

Besides the likes of George W. Bush and Cheney, that is.

[AlCzervik]

9. makes you wonder about the memo that other senators "Don't like him because he's a Maverick"

maybe the real reason is because he's a tremendous dickhead.

[yourguide]

12. maverick is code word for "giant fucking asshole"

[AlCzervik]

13. he's a world class douche and i'm sending that link out to those who really need to see it.

[yourguide]

16. Please do.

I just registered womenagainstmccain.com and plan to throw a blog up highlighting every single last sexist bullshit act I can dig up.

[senseandsensibility]

27. Be sure to include that disgusting joke he told about Chelsea

which doesn't seem to bother Hillary at all.

[beac]

63. And his comment about Cindy, who in addition to

being rich and pretty, is apparently also a "c--t."

And this is the man inspiring all those Suffragettes for McCain???

:crazy:

[AspenRose]

29. WTG

:thumbsup:

[DangerousRhythm]

57. Awesome!

I'll have to bookmark it. Good luck! :)

[slinkerwink]

10. And that compared to the Obama's marriage.....John McCain is disgusting.

[rocktivity]

24. Compared to NEWT GINGRICH'S marriages, John McCain is disgusting!

x(
rocknation

[Blondiegrrl]

66. I adore the loving looks Barack and Michelle are always sharing.

During the "fist bump," it was as though they totally forgot they were surrounded by 20,000 screaming supporters. They seem like such a strong, supportive family.

[Demit]

14. Wow. Let's see if anybody in the US press picks this up—as a character issue, mayhaps?

What a slimy sleazeball McCain is. He wouldn't know honor and integrity if he fell over it.

[sfam]

20. Won't happen until we get our own Sean Hannity. Sean repeats Obama crap 24/7....

If we had someone with a platform and no morals, than we too could push this story nightly until the MSM took a look. Hannity's show should be renamed the Reverend Wright hour, as we see and hear Reverend Wright FAR more than we do Hannity and Colmes.

[musicblind]

44. Isn't KO Obama's Sean Hannity? I'd think he'd report this if he found it

and thought it was something he should put on his show?

[TwilightGardener]

15. Slightly off-topic, but is anyone else offended by the way her post-accident

height (5'4") is always portrayed as a grotesque physical flaw? Speaking as one who doesn't even reach five feet tall...

[yourguide]

19. Yes, the whole thing is fucked.

Look at that photo of her at the bottom, 4 years after the accident, she was beautiful.

[Vektor]

22. I'm not offended, but I heartily disagree with the ludicrousness of the statement.

I'm a petite female, smaller than Carol's "post accident height" and I could not be happier with my slight, feminine, and delicate frame.

I have never had the desire to be one fragment of an inch taller, and could not understand why any female would. If you are bigger, fine, that's who you are, but if you're blessed with a pixie-ish frame, my God, celebrate that!

Even when I went through the height of my teen angst, and agonized over everything under the sun, - my skin, my hair, my braces, etc. I always took solace in the fact that I was tiny and feminine, and at least I had that. Teeth, hair, and complexions can be changed, but you're (mostly) stuck with your height, and I was thrilled to at least have the blessing of a delicate build.

Carol is, and was lovely at any height. Being a slight, sprite of a female is HARDLY a flaw! In fact, the body type I admire most is that of the gymnast. Streamlined, compact, and small but mighty. Almost always under 5'4" and 100 pounds.

John McCain is an ass.

[Demit]

25. Ahem. Enjoy your height, but you don't have to insult taller women in the process.

You took solace in being tiny and feminine? What, women who are taller aren't feminine?? Be careful how you phrase things, please. There's no need to disparage women who don't have the body type you 'admire most'. Sheesh.

[Vektor]

72. There was certainly no insult.

Enjoying my height has nothing to do with anyone else. I never once said anything disparaging about anyone of any size. Just because I happen to admire the athleticism of the gymnast, (A sport I participated in throughout most of my teen years, so naturally I'm going to admire those who excel at and embody the sport) hardly means that I loathe everyone else who doesn't fit that mold. I'm sorry you felt insulted, but I'm not sure I am the one who is responsible for that inclination.

The phrase "women who are taller aren't feminine" never left my keyboard. I don't even know where you got that from. I disparaged no one, and no one can make you feel disparaged without your consent.

Why is it, that it is perfectly acceptable (or even encouraged) for women to criticize their bodies and their appearances, loudly, openly, and constantly but the moment a woman says "I like this about myself" she is viewed with suspicion? If my post had been one of self loathing, there would have been an outpouring of support. If I had said "I hated growing up ugly and fat" no other woman would have felt "disparaged", even those who feel that they too are unattractive and overweight.

For some reason, it's not acceptable for women to have intact self esteem and like their bodies - it seems there is always another woman waiting nearby who feels threatened and wants to tear her down. I said I liked my size, and you felt disparaged? How could you have taken that personally? I have never seen you before - I made no comment about you or your appearance. I did, though, in that same post, speak negatively about my bad haircut, braces, and complexion, but where were the cries of outrage from the other people who had the exact some concerns? Why do they not feel disparaged by my criticism of my bad hair, braces, and zits? Interesting that rather than focus on the outright criticism of actual identified traits that people do have and protest that, someone came forward to criticize me for liking something about myself, and felt insulted by it.

There is enough self esteem to go around for all of us to have a little. Having a tiny bit of my own self esteem doesn't take anything out of your share.

I can be ok with who I am, and that's not an insult to anyone else. There isn't even a relationship between the two. I really don't understand your response. I did not feel insulted when the article outright stated that Carol McCain was less desirable because she was short, even though it was an obvious criticism of her, and perhaps, of all women of that same height - I laughed at the absurdity of the notion, because I know it's utter nonsense. By the same logic, I cannot fathom how you felt insulted by my statement that I liked being small. It wasn't even a criticism of anyone, or anything.

[Demit]

76. Your own words: you're 'slight, feminine, and delicate'; you're 'tiny and feminine'

You said, in regard to being as a teen tiny and feminine, "at least I had that." You called it "the blessing of a delicate build." It is clear that you associate femininity with being small.

Yes, I can see by your lengthy explanation that you don't understand. I'm saying: enjoy your size, celebrate your size. But if you feel that your size is the reason for your being feminine, keep it to yourself.

And don't make stupid pronouncements like 'no one can make you feel disparaged without your consent'. Consent has nothing to do with being able to point out how poorly-chosen words can be insulting. With all that work you've done on your self-esteem, now it's time to work on your self-awareness.

[Vektor]

78. I'm sorry about your insecurities.

I truly am. Now please stop attacking my words and twisting them to try to justify your feeling inferior. I have every right to celebrate feeling good about myself, and my femininity - however I may perceive it - and you have no right to tell me that I cannot or should not, or that I am wrong in doing so. Just because you are gleaning all sorts of bizarre inferences about what you think my idea of femininity is and then somehow, in your own mind, turning those inferences into an assault on you does not mean that I have to edit myself in order to avoid bruising your fragile ego.

There is noting stupid about saying nobody can make you feel disparaged without your consent. I'll say it again if it's not sinking in. It's the absolute truth, and you might need to start accepting it. What is stupid is you nitpicking and distorting my posts because you seem to have insecurities about your own body, and you clearly cannot allow someone to feel good about themselves without taking it as a personal insult, and a criticism of you. Once again, I am glad I was blessed with the body type I have, I'm not ashamed of that, and if that somehow makes you feel insecure, then you are the one with issues. My words were not poorly chosen, but your knee-jerk hypersensitive reaction to them was.

There are hundreds of thousands of posters on this board, yet you seem to be the only one who took issue with my opinion of myself, and made it about you. It's not about you, it never was. The entire crux of my original statement was that even during the height of my teen anxiety and body image issues, I had one ray of sunshine in all the things I did NOT like about myself. I liked being petite. I was/am athletic, and my size gave me a leg up in competitive gymnastics and that built self esteem and fitness - two things all kids can use a little more of.

I was merely stating how odd I thought it was that the article about Carol McCain indicated that her losing height meant she had lost some of her beauty, which I disagreed with. Can you kindly grant me permission to like one single feature of mine, and not take it personally? May I defend the appearance of another woman without you feeling like if your height doesn't match the person I am complimenting, then I must be insulting you?

I understand perfectly, it's you who seems not to understand. My liking myself the way I am has NOTHING to do with anyone else's build or appearance. Clearly, my own healthy self esteem (AND self awareness) has touched a raw nerve in you, and you may need to work on that.

Good luck.

[Demit]

79. Wow.

[Vektor]

80. Indeed. EOM

[Frances]

30. I don't think it was just the height

but the way her height was reduced (loss of bone) that made her out of proportion, as well as made her limp, barely able to walk.

People get divorced all the time, but the way McCain behaved was dishonorable. McCain makes Bill look like a saint.

[Vektor]

70. Agreed.

He's a scoundrel - and there is far more to that than just the abandonment of his wife.

[senseandsensibility]

34. Your post is odd

As a very average sized woman, five seven and average build, I have no dog in this fight. But it's obvious to most people that women of all heights can be beautiful and feminine.

[brentspeak]

38. Isn't 5'7" an above-average height for a woman?

[senseandsensibility]

41. Well, maybe

but I'm not unusually tall either. My main point is that all heights can be attractive and feminine. Actually, I agree with the above poster that the article seems to imply that McCain's first wife was somehow undesirable because she was no longer tall. That's not right either.

[brentspeak]

45. Agreed, the issue is that the accident shattered and reconfigured her body

to the point that she even lost four or five inches in height. It would be equally awful if the accident caused her to gain four or five inches in height. The human body wasn't meant to be squished around like silly putty.

[yourguide]

49. Yes...avg woman's height is around 5' 5"

[Vektor]

69. It's not odd at all.

That's precisely what I'm saying.


(???)

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

17. Yeah she is very pretty.

But reading this article she too sounded like a Stepford wife.

[ecstatic]

18. I really hope a 527 goes after him on this, and the Chelsea thing

I'm serious.

[OzarkDem]

43. Don't you think they'll fire back?

There's plenty of this behavior on the Dem side they can take aim at.

[Raine]

50. Of course they will

they'll fire off crap whether we go after McSAME or not, hiding out and playing nice isn't not going to stop them.

[Blondiegrrl]

68. Exactly. Plus we know that Obama himself would never raise that issue.

So who cares if other groups bring it up. Lord knows the Repugs will be slinging crap about Obama.

[MH1]

54. Yeah, but not in the guy who's at the top of the ticket.

[hughee99]

23. McCain is an asshole for many reasons...

this is just one of them. I just wonder how many people here are outraged by this and see it as a "character issue" when just a few years back cheating on one's wife was a "personal matter". Is it better to be a relatively honest asshole and leave one's wife, or a dishonest one to stay with her only to act as if you're not married? I guess it depends on the situation.

[Demit]

33. No, cheating on your wife is only bad if you're a Democrat. For the family values party, it's a

personal matter. Or it's a 'youthful indiscretion' even though you were age 40.

I'd say the dishonesty that sticks in my craw most is that McCain portrays himself to be a man of honesty, honor and integrity. And the fawning media swallow that hook, line and sinker. No cognitive dissonance there for THEM.

Any naval officer school grad will tell you they take an oath to be an officer and a gentleman. Pay attention to what his fellow naval aviators say about him. Their contempt is a tipoff to his true character.

[tpsbmam]

32. Picturing swiftboaters.....with actual truth on their side this time.

Wow, those represented in the story who knew him when really have venal things to say about him. I hope this information is disseminated far and wide. Of course, some Republicans will think he's smart as hell.

[MH1]

55. I guess I should point out

that Ted Sampley is a pretty vile guy himself, and went after Kerry in 2004.

The common denominator is that McCain and Kerry worked together on the POW-MIA Select Committee that ultimately had the effect of shutting down a lucrative cottage industry of people preying on families of POW/MIA's. I believe Sampley was involved in that cottage industry.

Funny how these things work, isn't it.

[Window]

35. Shameful.

[BlooInBloo]

36. I can TOTALLY see why real feminists would go for McCain over Obama....

Well, real *somethings* at any rate.

[Unbowed]

37. McAsshole's constituency:

1. The terminally stupid
2. Mega-assholes


This goes double for any former Clinton "supporters" who vote for McAsshole out of sour grapes. In all honesty, I think this number has to be far smaller than the media would have us believe. They enjoy finding the loonies and giving them a voice. Frankly, I think that a lot of conservatives were supporting Clinton to extend the primary.

It's hard to believe anyone who would vote for Clinton on the issues would find McAsshole an acceptable alternative. A look at Clinton's record and McAsshole's record will show two people who are diametrically opposed on just about every possible issue.

The Republican is a sexist and a misogynist. He's no Hillary Clinton.

[OzarkDem]

39. Women voters deserve better than this pap

Tell them what the Dem Party will do for them.

Aren't there enough positive things about our candidate and our party to provide them with an incentive?

Show us what you have.

On edit: this kind of strategy will backfire big-time. There are plenty of Dem men who also have records of treating wives and girlfriends badly. Some are high profile supporters of Obama's.

Be smart if you want to keep Dem women voters in the fold. Use something positive to lure them back, not something negative that will come back and bite you in the arse.

[yourguide]

46. Ozark

I have an awesome idea. Why don't you STFU already?

Seriously, I have had enough of your nonsense. This is disgusting and this is a republican candidate. The dems have a proven track record of supporting women.

You know what will bite you and others in the ass? Is you guys trying to hold out some sort of carrot in hopes that your specific needs will be catered to.

The dems have a proven track record of supporting women, Obama has a proven track record of supporting women, so again I say STFU!!!

I doubt seriously I will be seeing you much longer after June 11.

[OzarkDem]

47. Sorry if telling the truth is making you uncomfortable

Stop fooling yourself. Dems have been shedding women voters in the last decade or more. They're making it up, but they just took a big step backwards.

Obama doesn't have support of many women and he needs to address that issue before Dems lose another presidential election.

Bringing up scandals about McCain is a lame strategy because it will backfire on Dems.

[yourguide]

48. Again, STFU.

You really should be ashamed of yourself.

Get your facts straight. 40% of women voted for him. What, do you think that other 60% is as petty and childish as you and is going to vote McCain?

Again I say STFU.

I cant wait until June 11. Can't flipping wait.

[rodeodance]

73. what a rude post. OD is trying to address issues and you puke on her. Shameful

[yourguide]

75. rodeo, you are another heinous offender.

you can also STFU. June 11th.

[dorkulon]

51. Yeah, just like it backfired on the GOP? /nt

[OzarkDem]

53. They control the news media, we don't

[dorkulon]

56. I'm sure they'd say the same thing about us.

Besides, it's good for the nation that everything about both candidates is on the table. The way McCain dealt with wife #1 is relevant to his character. And marrying the "other woman" was a big part of what killed Guiliani's bid. This kind of stuff matters more to Republicans than Dems, so it will hurt McCain even more than it would a Dem candidate. I don't see much potential for a backlash for simply laying out the truth about McCain's past.

[Cali_Democrat]

71. I see you have been reduced to concern trolling now that Hillary is done

pathetic

[Blondiegrrl]

67. Specific needs to be catered to ...

Perhaps they're holding out for the candidate who will fan them with a palm frond and feed them grapes while they lounge in a hammock.

:shrug:

[yardwork]

61. This woman doesn't have any problem supporting Obama.

[Zachstar]

42. In my view anyone who votes for McCain because Clinton lost is a sexist pig.

They claim the boys are dragging the woman down yet they talk about voting for such an asshole!

FUCK THEM!!!

[Raine]

52. That's for damn sure

and if they are in the DU maybe they should join the Freak Repub instead.

[Nedsdag]

58. If anyone knows a wavering and bitter Hillary supporter for McCain,

can they please e-mail them this story?

[NotThisTime]

62. Nice Family Guy they picked there, what a freaking winner /nt

[Blondiegrrl]

65. Wow, what a pig.

He acknowledged he had "other girlfriends" during the time he was married to Carol?

Wow. I think I know which brain he thinks with, and it ain't the "upstairs" brain.

[geek_sabre]

77. A lot, a lot (a lot) of marriages ended after Vietnam.

Largely as a result of PTSD. I'm not sure this is a good attack point on John McCain. Being held prisoner and tortured for 5 years will change your perspective on life a lot. It is impossible to come out of those circumstances an reenter your life like nothing happened. As long as his ex-wife doesn't have any hard feelings about the split, I don't think this really matters. I would think divorce is preferable to a loveless marriage for the sake of marriage, or because you feel guilty about her "disfigurement."

Now, if he'd had 2+ marriages since and was still playing the field, there would be a valid argument about his "womanizing" ways. He's still with Cindy, and he signed a prenup which doesn't make him a very effective gold digger.

[angie_love]

81. I can't believe any woman would vote for this a$$hole