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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:22 AM
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Hillary's Gas Tax Holiday plan dies: Remember her plan was to have the big oil co. pay for it.
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 12:46 AM by Heather MC

Senate Republicans block windfall taxes on Big Oil By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 4 minutes ago
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080611/ap_on_go_co/congress_oil_profits;_ylt=Ag6JuSHeMKSi_uvX7N66nues0NUE


WASHINGTON - Saved by Senate Republicans, big oil companies dodged an attempt Tuesday to slap them with a windfall profits tax and take away billions of dollars in tax breaks in response to the record gasoline prices that have the nation fuming.

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GOP senators shoved aside the Democratic proposal, arguing that punishing Big Oil won't do a thing to lower the $4-a-gallon-price of gasoline that is sending economic waves across the country. High prices at the pump are threatening everything from summer vacations to Meals on Wheels deliveries to the elderly.

The Democratic energy package would have imposed a 25 percent tax on any "unreasonable" profits of the five largest U.S. oil companies, which together made $36 billion during the first three months of the year. It also would have given the government more power to address oil market speculation, opened the way for antitrust actions against countries belonging to the OPEC oil cartel, and made energy price gouging a federal crime.

"Americans are furious about what's going on," declared Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D. He said they want Congress to do something about oil company profits and the "orgy of speculation" on oil markets.

But Republican leaders said the Democrats' plan would do harm rather than good — and they kept the legislation from being brought up for debate and amendments.

On world markets, oil prices retreated a bit Tuesday but remained above $131 a barrel. Gasoline prices edged even higher to a nationwide record average of $4.04 a gallon.

At the Capitol, Democratic leaders needed 60 votes and they got only 51 senators' support, including seven Republicans who bucked their party leaders. Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, a state tied closely to the oil industry, was the only Democrat opposing the bill. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid voted in favor of the measure, but for procedural reasons changed his vote to "no" so that he could bring it up again.

"We are hurting as a country. We're hurting individually as Americans ... and the other side says, `Do nothing. Don't even debate the issue,'" complained Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

"Average citizens are scratching their heads and saying, what's wrong with Washington," said Schumer.

GOP opponents argued that little was to be gained by imposing new taxes on the five U.S. oil giants: Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp., Shell Oil Co., BP America Inc. and ConocoPhillips Co.

While these companies may be huge, they don't set world oil prices and raising their taxes would discourage domestic oil production, the Republicans said of the Democrats' plan.

"In the middle of what some are calling the biggest energy shock in a generation ... they proposed as a solution, of all things, a windfall profits tax," Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky chided the Democrats. He called their proposal "a gimmick" that would not lower gasoline prices and only hold back domestic oil production.

"The American people are clamoring for relief at the pump," agreed Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., but "they will get exactly what they don't want" under the Democrats' plan — higher prices and an increase in oil imports.

The bill's supporters argued that their proposal was different from the windfall profits taxes of the early 1980s that thwarted domestic production and led to a rise in imports. The oil companies could avoid the tax by using their "windfall" to push alternative energy programs or refinery expansions, they said.

Shortly after the oil tax vote, Republicans blocked a second proposal that would extend tax breaks that have either expired or are scheduled to end this year for wind, solar and other alternative energy development, and for the promotion of energy efficiency and conservation. Again Democrats couldn't get the 60 votes to overcome a GOP filibuster.

Neither Republican presidential candidate John McCain nor his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, were in Washington to cast votes on the energy issue on Tuesday.

Obama, in a statement, said Republicans had "turned a blind eye to the plight of America's working families" by refusing to take up the energy legislation. Obama has supported additional taxes on the oil companies. McCain is opposed to such taxes and has proposed across-the-aboard tax reductions for industry as a way to help the economy.

Election-year politics hung over the debate. Democrats know their energy package has no chance of becoming law. Even it were to overcome a Senate GOP filibuster — a longshot at best — and the House acted, President Bush has made clear he would veto it.

But there was nothing to lose by taking on Big Oil when people are paying $60 to $100 to fill up their gas tanks.

The oil companies have been frequent targets of Congress. Twice this year, top executives of the largest U.S. oil producers have been brought before congressional committees to explain their huge profits. And each time the executives urged lawmakers to resist punitive tax measures, blaming high costs on global supply and demand.

In addition to the proposed windfall profits tax, the Democrats' bill also would have rescinded tax breaks that are expected to save the oil companies $17 billion over the next 10 years. The money would have been used to provide tax incentives for producers of wind, solar and other alternative energy sources as well as for energy conservation.

In an attempt to dampen oil market speculation, the legislation would require traders to put up more collateral in the energy futures markets and would provide authority to regulate U.S.-based trading in foreign markets. And it would make oil and gas price gouging a federal crime, with stiff penalties of up to $5 million during a presidentially declared energy emergency.

After Tuesday's defeat, Democrats did not rule out pushing the issue again.

"This was politics at its worst," complained Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. "This was a refusal to debate the biggest problem confronting the American people. ... That takes nerve."
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:29 AM
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1. She knew it wouldn't pass Congress with Bush standing by with his veto pen.
Just wanted to pander to get some votes.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:38 AM
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2. It didn't even get that far
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:46 AM
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3. Are you going to deliver VA for Obama?
Come on Heather, I'm counting on you. :patriot: I grew up in Northern VA, so I'm really hoping that Obama can pull off a win there. Which VA politician do you think would help the most as V.P. for Obama? Seems like everybody is highest on Webb right now.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:50 AM
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4. No not Webb He barely won VA
I like Biden!
Webb is too entangled with loving the confederacy, I don't think some people will like that.

Now I am from Jerry Falwell Country, my Hometown is still very segragated
he may have some work in Lynchburg VA

I had an Older Black woman that lives down there, tell me she didn't think black people should run this country

:rofl:

I told her Barack was raised by White people so it's OK, she said she didn't know that!
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:55 AM
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5. Biden does seem like a very good choice
He's in my top tier, along with Richardson and Sebelius. Hopefully Obama can get Fairfax County to turn out big. I'd imagine the large number of young people there could swing the state blue.

I guess your story just shows that uneasy racial feelings are color-blind in terms of who might express them. I never knew that Jerry Falwell was from there. Ugh! :puke:
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:04 AM
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7. Oh yes he thought he was the King of the Burg
In my Area I rarely talk to a non Obama Person.

They is a guy at my church that's republican, but he said and I quote
"it sucks because McCain is going to lose"

I said
"Are you kidding me, that's great news!!!"
:rofl:
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:04 AM
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6. Let's see... This article is really about the republikkans blocking the promotion of alternative
energy during a time of serious problems with the cost of energy.

Yet, you've chosen to make this about Clinton.

Getting your last shot in before the deadline kicks in I see.

Classy. :sarcasm:
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:09 AM
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8. Ok, sure what ever
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 01:18 AM by Heather MC
She knew what would happen before she said it.
I am just trying to get my one last "Don't make her VP" dig

Honestly it's really said that programs like Meals on Wheels are struggling to find the money to feed the elderly.

But no one is mad enough to stop buying gas.

The bus boycotts in the 60's neve would have worked if everyone didn't commit to walking to work.

Maybe if we parked our cars and started taking the bus in protest they would stop screwing us over. Of course I am a stay at home mom, so I don't go anywhere I can't walk or ride my bike too.
And yes I strap the kids in for he ride.
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