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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:56 AM Original message |
Please contact the Obama campaign about FISA immunity |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree.K & R! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. Do we know that for a fact? nt |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yes, we know that for a fact. How do we know? Because the bill is being voted on. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. They're voting on this in the Senate now, too? I didn't know. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Hmmm... am I wrong on this? I'm relying on a radio show from yesterday. |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I heard yesterday that the House was voting on it today... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. That makes more sense to me. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Don't know. I turned on the Senate hearing, saw Orrin Hatch blathering away, |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. If this passes the Senate, it will be with Obama's approval. There's no other way to see it. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Why? He's the presumptive nominee, he's not anything else at this |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You don't think Obama could pick up the phone and stop this in one minute? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes I'm sure all those rethugs who will be voting for FISA give a |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You do know the Rethugs are in the *minority*, don't you. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. That's why the Dems in the Senate have so overwhelmed their |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. You're talking apples and oranges. *Stopping* a bill is easy in the Senate. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Babylonsister you know I love Obama to death and have been |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yep -- at this point I've given more to Obama than I have to Edwards |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Did you see post #10? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. * sure as hell had it when the Repugs were in charge. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Yes. It's a start but I'm very serious about his need to be forceful |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
3. Obama Staff "Literally Reviewing FISA as we speak" |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
10. I called the Obama Campaign. He is opposing the FISA bill and supports Dodd. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Him and Feingold should take turns filibustering it |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
12. My brief letter |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Did you even bother to read the post above yours? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Nope -- sometimes posts overlap. But it didn't change my opinion |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. FYI Obama has one vote in the senate and you know his stance on this bill |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. He's the Democratic nominee for President. One word from him and this bill goes away. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Obama has one vote in the senate |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Don't be an idiot. Please read up on how the Senate really works. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. This bill will pass whether we like it or not |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:52 AM Original message |
And if winning the WH means pissing on the 4th Amendment to do so |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
35. Except that's a false choice. Most people HATE Bush and his wiretapping |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. We're going to win the White House. Let's not pretend we have to cave on civil rights to do so. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. And who guarantees it that we will win the white house? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. John McCain guarantees it. But no matter what, gutting the 4th amendment isn't worth it. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I like to say democrat..hate to say democratic |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. One is a Repug slur, the other is the name of our party. But suit yourself. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. You dont understand that to win the big prize you must compromise |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Wow, you sound like you've run a lot of presidential campaigns. I'm impressed. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Yea I closed it once I saw Jim Webb's name there |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Good move. God forbid you should learn something. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Little facts like that don't matter; this is all Obama's fault now! |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Did you even bother to read my post above? |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. I'm going to tailor that a little for my own use. He's not Almighty God |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I don't think he has ultimate power. I just can't believe Wussy Harry would stand up to him |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I love Obama but fear him too |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. His speeches are all about the power of "we", and I'm holding him to it. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That is exactly how I see it |
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