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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 01:52 PM
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Media calling Obama's opting out of Public Financing as FLIP FLOP - McCain FLIP FLOPS 24/7, but Shhh
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 02:28 PM by FrenchieCat
We need to call the media on this double standard. John McCain has done a 180 on every single major issue there is; taxes, Oil Drilling, 100 years vs. 2013 out of Iraq, even Public financing......and McCain has yet to be termed a Flip Flopper.

Obama determines that Public Financing isn't the even Playing field that it should be in order for him to accept it, and the media labels it a Flip Flop.

We must jam them up for this type of coverage. They are McCain's base afterall. If we don't jam them up, who will?

Contessa Brewer has been doing "a job" on Obama all morning.

Contact:
Contessa Brewer -- MSNBC
Title: Anchor
Department: MSNBC Live
E-mail: world@msnbc.com
Phone: (201) 583-5000
Fax: (201) 583-5584

I have not watched other channels, but I'm sure that this is a coordinated attack against Obama by McCain's "base".

I'm sure that the media will make up for McCain's funding shortfall by providing him with billions in "Free Media". That's what they always do.

Until we have a Fairness doctrine in place, public financing doesn't means jack-shit!
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My letter to MSNBC:


Dear Contessa Brewer and David Shuster:

Amazing how MSNBC, including the two of you are so willing to term Obama's reasoned change of mind on accepting Public Financing as a Flip Flop, but fails to discuss John McCain's own change of mind when he went from opting out, to opting back in, to opting out again, and no discussion occured, nor it is being reference today.

The Media has amnesia about McCain's flip flop on campaign financing....among his many other flip flops.

McCain was out for the primaries, then he was in for the primaries, then he was out for the primaries, not he's in for the General.

But somehow, Obama is the man who doesn't keep his word?

Also note that Obama is taking charge over his objection of 527s on the Democratic side, and those 527s are complying. McCain has not shown leadership on this, as he has professed that he doesn't have any control over 527s on the GOP side. Who wants a leader who can't control the party that he represents? That is the real issue in this whole slant.

Until we have reform on Media and force them to provide equal time (i.e. the Fairness Doctrine) in elections, public financing doesn't work, because the media tends to provide the Republicans with billions in free media. That's what happened in 2004 with the swiftboaters, and that is what is going on today with Obama being branded as a flip flopper, although John McCain is the greatest flip flopper of them all. Amazingly or not so much, the media does not provide the balance required to equal fair analysis.

But what is evident is that it is Obama who appears much more of a leader in this public financing issue, even if he is being portrayed as the flipflopper. Read here:
Exclusive: MoveOn To Close Its 527 In Response To Obama's Candidacy
By Greg Sargent - June 20, 2008, 12:05PM

MoveOn, the advocacy group supporting Barack Obama, has decided to permanently shutter its 527 operation, partly in response to the Illinois Senator's insistence that such groups should not spend on his behalf during the general election, I've learned from the group's spokesperson.

MoveOn's decision, which will dramatically impact the way it raises money on Obama's behalf, is yet another sign of how rapidly Obama is taking control of the apparatus that's gearing up on his behalf
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/moveon_to_close_its_527.php



McCain's Flip Flop Evidence here:

March. 2, 2007
McCain may opt out of public financing system
Decision depends on winning nomination and Democratic nominee's plans
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17417007 /

Feb 18, 2008
McCain found a way to use the public funds as an insurance policy: If he did poorly, he would use public funds to pay off his loans. If he did well, he would have the advantage of unlimited spending.
There's a reason no one's ever done anything like this. It makes a travesty of the choice inherent in voluntary public financing, between public funds and unlimited spending. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Legal or not, it should bring to an end whatever tiny thread of credibility John McCain still has as a straight-talker or reformer of the political process.

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=02&year=2008&base_name=the_pete_rose_of_politics


April 4, 2008
McCain returns $3m in checks as he considers public funding
http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/D/7/3/mccain_returns_3m_in_checks_as_he_considers_public_funding/

Democrats to ask for investigation of McCain's campaign financing
By The Associated Press
04.14.08
WASHINGTON — Democratic Party officials want a federal judge to order an investigation into whether Sen. John McCain violated election laws by withdrawing from public financing, saying federal regulators are too weak to act on their own.

A lawsuit against the Federal Election Commission, to be filed today in U.S. District Court, questions the agency's ability to enforce the law and review McCain's decision to opt out of the system. The Republican presidential candidate, who had been entitled to $5.8 million in federal funds for the primary campaign, decided earlier this year to give up that money so he could avoid strict spending limits between now and the GOP's national convention in September.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/Speech/campaignfinance/%5Cnews.aspx?id=19920

In other words, MSNBC is not doing its job, but I am not surprised.

RESPECTFULLY,

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 01:56 PM
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1. yeah, very predictable, but it's still pissing me off
(and MSNBC is playing in the background in the other room where I work, so I can't even turn the thing off). Do they purposely get really shitty surrogates for Democrats during the day time? Joe Watkins even used the 2004 golden oldie "He was for it before he was against it!" Anyone on DU could wipe the floor with these bullshit talking points, and the Democratic strategists are sucking on this topic.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:06 PM
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4. DNC hasn't figured it out yet; Americans don't do nuance. Bumper sticker MOST issues and you win
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:30 PM
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12. There is only a lack of nuance because the press had decided that there shall not be any.....
We have to hold their feet to the fire.

It appears that the Clinton campaign was able to do this, and so should we. Unless we just lay back and wait for someone else to do the objecting.

Well, I'm not waiting for others.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:31 AM
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23. Obama is going to be our next president,
but, he flip-flopped.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 01:59 PM
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2. I hope folks are writing....because if Big Mouth DU doesn't do it,
who will?

This is going to be important. How much we are willing to "act" by writing, something we do all day anyways.....is going to make the difference. If we wait for someone else to get this done, we will be looking at a McCain Administration. It is up to us....as Obama recently stated. We have to win, and we can't if we don't "work" at it.

We are not in GE mode. It is now time to stop signing so much to the choir, and challenge the opposition; which is the media (the McCain Base).
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:05 PM
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3. Why hasn't the Obama camp come out and say McSame violated finance law by accepting private funds!?!
...Don't know their angle on this but I've had to defend the guy all day cause the MsM is hammering him on this while not stating the fact that McSame violated finance laws by accepting private funds.

All Obama has to say is McSame accepted private funds and so will he.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:07 PM
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5. David Shuster is using the term as well.
write to David Shuster-- letters@MSNBC.com
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:08 PM
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6. You don't expect McCain's base to attack him do you?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:13 PM
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7. I think they are full of shit.
And they know it.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:14 PM
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8. You got that one right. Contessa probably works the McCain phones
when she's not reading what passes for news.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:15 PM
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9. Shuster is no better......
These people are so transparent.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:26 PM
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11. It's their paycheck they are protecting.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:20 PM
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10. Obama would be an IDIOT to agree to public financing.
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 02:21 PM by Skwmom
That would make the few corporations who control the media (and their paid talking idiots who will do anything for a paycheck) have even more of an impact on our elections.

There can be NO REAL campaign finance reform before MEDIA consolidation and the fairness doctrine are tackled. ANY campaign finance reform will just serve to give the media more power over our elections.



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:43 PM
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13. Which is why I'm writing a letter to Sen. Fiengold.
Surely, he should understand this.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 03:30 PM
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19. You would hope so.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:46 PM
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14. Hey, the 527's will come out of the woodwork, then what?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:47 PM
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15. Clearify please.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:49 PM
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16. oh, that flip flop shit again?
haha, mccain is the king of it, so he should be careful about trying that shit.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 02:50 PM
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17. McCain and the media thinks we are stupid.....again!
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 03:22 PM
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18. McCain wants to play everyone for suckers...
the dirty scum.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:32 PM
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20. Great info. Kick and consider it done! n/t
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:37 PM
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21. I agree.K & R!
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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:52 PM
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22. K&R, and I'll let that other thread sink. :) /nt
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