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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:22 PM
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What do you think Obama's response should be to Dobson?
Dobson is without a doubt the most fucked-up of all the Thumpers. Analyzing this guy would fill volumes.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:23 PM
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1. Obama should openly mock Dobson.
Re: Spongebob Squarepants.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:24 PM
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2. "go do battle with another small breed pet, the grown-ups have business to attend to"
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:24 PM
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3. He'd never say it, of course, but
my preference would be: Shut the fuck up, hosepail.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:24 PM
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4. either zing him or ignore him. Dobson should be marginalized.
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:27 PM
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10. I'd like to see Obama hurl a real zinger his way
Watching Dobson squirm would be fun.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:25 PM
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5. Dobson should get exactly what he deserves
He should be vigorously ignored.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:25 PM
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6. He should refer Dobson to the Sermon on the Mount...........
Without further comments.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:26 PM
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7. "isn't there a cartoon character you can protest?"
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:26 PM
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8. Dobson said what about Obama?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:27 PM
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9. No response
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 01:27 PM by Jake3463
If asked why he should say he doesn't respond to accusations from fundamentalist of any religion.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:28 PM
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11. I'm more concerned about Mccain's SCOTUS choices. Bye. nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:29 PM
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12. I wouldn't even acknowledge the fruitcake!
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:34 PM
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13. No response needed. He didn't address Dobson to begin with.
By engaging him, he validates Dobson, or has to pretend to out-faith him or out-bible him.

If you stoop to argue with idiots you will become an idiot.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:35 PM
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14. "What can you expect from a man who beats his dog,
advocates beating ones children and thinks a good way for a father to instill respect in his son is to shower with him so he can see that the father is dominant? Obviously Dr. Dobson has serious issues, and we should all pray that he gets the help he needs."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/21/184017/640

Or, "I'd rather be a fruitcake than a dipshit", whichever one works;)
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beandoc Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:47 PM
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15. Ask dobson if he would support a law making Christianity mandatory in the United States.
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 01:49 PM by beandoc
From the MSNBC article

Dobson reserved some of his harshest criticism for Obama's argument that the religiously motivated must frame debates over issues like abortion not just in their own religion's terms but in arguments accessible to all people.
He said Obama, who supports abortion rights, is trying to govern by the "lowest common denominator of morality," labeling it "a fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution."
"Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?" Dobson said. "What he's trying to say here is unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe."

Christianity (or Dobson's version of it) may mold his ideals and his beliefs, and he may very well campaign for those beliefs. However, if he expects beliefs which are based purely on faith to be enforced by the government in the form of laws, he is asking the government to enforce a religion, to move toward a theocracy. You can fight for your faith based principles. No one said you couldn't (including Obama). But don't expect a society or government which allows freedom of religion or faith to remove those rights from citizens with whom you do not agree....dumbass (i tried to resist that last word, but failed)


edit for grammar
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:48 PM
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16. Responding would give credibility.
N/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:48 PM
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17. Nothing. Zero.
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 01:49 PM by WinkyDink
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:55 PM
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18. Obama: "Dobson who?"
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 01:56 PM by izzybeans
"Oh that guy? Are you going to repeat what every batshit insane asshole says about me. I got him confused with the other sorry fellow who thought I had sex with him. You'll have to forgive me, my economic advisers and I have some important business to attend to."
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 01:58 PM
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19. "This campaign has nothing to do with theological discussions"
"Mr. Dobson has his theological viewpoint and his form of Christianity, and I have mine. Insulting another person's theological view, however, is not condusive to ecuminical progress."
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:10 PM
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20. He should say "Hey, Mr. Dobson, I was talking to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ last night.....
and He said to tell you that your an ASSHOLE!!"
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 02:11 PM
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21. He should acknowledge that Dobson knows everything there is to be known about fruitcake. n/t
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 03:32 PM
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22. tell Dobson to only speak about things he knows well, like showering with 5-year-olds
well, that would be my response...Obama should just ignore it and stay on task
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 03:41 PM
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23. Barack Black Eagle & Other Members of The Crow Nation
can dance and chant until Dobson's tiny homophobic, racist brain goes "SPLAT", or he can ignore him like he does Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, was "adopted" by Hartford and Mary Black Eagle and given a name which means "one who helps all people of this land."

"I was just adopted into the tribe, so I'm still working on my pronunciation," Obama told a crowd after stumbling over some of the native names.

"I like my new name, Barack Black Eagle," he said. "That is a good name."

Many in the audience wore traditional feather headdresses and some banged drums ahead of Obama's visit, the first by a presidential candidate to the Crow Nation.http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN19168547
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-24-08 03:48 PM
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24. the mere fact that Dobson is given ANY airtime tells you all you need to know
Edited on Tue Jun-24-08 03:48 PM by Gabi Hayes
about just how far into the tank the M$M is for McBush

how much do people here know about the CNP, how influential it is, how secretive?

seen their membership list? know the history?

well, here's Dobson's speech before them, in which he calls them to task for not being....conservative enough, not insanely religious enough. just a snip, from a long, VERY CRAZY speech. you'll love the kicker:

Let me go back, if I can, to 1994. Now I've been waiting to say this for a long time and you guys are the ones that are gonna get it. (laughter) Nineteen-ninety-four, Republicans, for the first and only time, other than when Ronald Reagan was running, Republicans spoke to the hearts of that pro-moral community. I mean, they got them jazzed and excited. They ran on a pro-life platform. You hear that they ran on the "Contract With America." We didn't hear much about the "Contract With America" until the Republicans had won. That wasn't what got them elected. They ran on a pro-life platform. And they energized...(applause) that whole community and it was incredible.

In November of 1994, when the election occurred, nine million new voters came out who hadn't voted before and put the Republicans in power. Remember this number: 43 percent of the total votes that Republicans got that year came from people who identified themselves as conservative, evangelical, and pro-life.

That's an incredible statistic and constituency. Forty-three percent. Newt Gingrich is speaker today because of that 43 percent. There is no special interest group. There is no constituency that comes anywhere near that. One of the unions had 11 or 12 percent. There's nothing even close to that. Forty-three percent.

What did the Republicans who were shocked to assume power and moved into all the offices of power in Washington, what did they immediately start to do, but to insult that constituency? Immediately began to do it. (applause)

November of '94 is when they were put into office. Overwhelming. Everybody's talking about it. January, the New Congress comes in. January 20th or so, the president comes down to the Congress to make his State of the Union address and Newt Gingrich chooses somebody to respond to the president. Who did he choose? Christine Todd Whitman, the absolute antithesis of everything that constituency stands for. (applause)

She is pro-homosexual activism. She's pro-condom distribution. She's pro-abortion. She's pro-partial-birth abortion. She even named a truck stop for Howard Stern on the New Jersey turnpike, which is the only thing she's done so far that I agree with. I mean, naming a toilet for Howard Stern is the only logical thing she's done. (laughter)

They put a symbol of the immoral, amoral constituency up in front of the people who had just handed leadership to the Republicans. And from there on down, it was one insult right after another. You already know them, so I don't have time to talk about all of them.


this crackpot drivel meanders on and on and on and on.....but this is the mindset that gains acceptance as part of the mainstream political discourse, thanks to our 'liberal media'

http://www.wildershow.com/dobson.htm

here's a good backgrounder on CNP. we discussed them at length at Salon TT many years ago...thousands of posts over a several year period. I'm sure Stephanie, among others, remembers

http://www.truthout.org/article/secret-society-council-national-policy

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