Maybe there is a lesson to be had from this fiasco

[inthebrain]

I think this is a good time to look at how we view our candidates. In a sense I think folks would be better of to marry ideas than to look at a politician as if he is the second coming of christ. Look, politicians are scumbags and they lie and distort all the time. When they get on their holy high horses even they are not exempt from hypocrisy.

And I take issue more with the hypocrisy than the anything else.

I don't care really care if Edwards, McCain, Clinton, Ginghrich, Bush I or Bush II ever cheated on their wives. I just don't care.

I like ideas. Ideas can not be killed or derailed by fo0lks hung up on sex scandals. Their is always someone else to carry the torch. As far as Edwards goes, if you liked his ideas and that's what drew you to his campaign, that's all that should matter. The idea is bigger than Edwards and you should see yourselves as the ones to carry that torch.

The sex scandal is not going to invalidate his ideas.

[dkf]

1. The more we say it doesn't matter and encourage our candidates to run despite shady pasts

the more this stuff will bite us.

Look at Edwards...he thought it was okay because of all the other bozos who did it.

[inthebrain]

3. You don't know why he did

He was already out of the race when he admitted to it.

It's the platform that he put forth that should matter more than the man offering it.

If these scandals and fiascos were allowed to effect social movements none of us would have gottne an education. We'd all would have been bread by our parents to bring in an income and work in factories and farms.

Shit, there would have been no labor movements.

Ayn Rand is the utmost right wing icon and she cheated on her religously. Despite preaching moralism to everyone else. To those guys those ideas still carry on despite the infidelity.

[dkf]

5. He had the affair in 06 and then he decided to run the 2nd time.

[inthebrain]

6. And?

[dkf]

7. He thought it was ok because all the rest of them do it.

And because so many Dems say its ok if you cheat...What matters is your policy.

Yeah, he could have lost it for us right there.

[inthebrain]

9. SO what exactly did this do to you?

My marriage is still fine.

Obviously, if he did it once before and garnered support in this election, it didn't really matter to anyone else.

This crap is nothing more than Wilma Flintstone and Bettie Rubble crap. If his ideas mattered and resonated with you this shit really doesn't matter. It's inconsequential bullshit. Yall get to caught up in this garbage and need to take a step back and view the bigger picture.

EVERYONE knows that politicians do this stuff.

[dkf]

11. If John Edwards was our nominee, we would lose right here right now.

Dead Duckeroo.

Actually, we'd probably replace him.

[grasswire]

2. that's why I've argued that it's wrong...

...to blindly idolize any politician, especially one like Obama who is a blank slate. It does the politician no service. It actually damages him/her. Those who see Obama as some kind of savior -- charismatic and pure -- are wrong to do so. That way lies a catastrophe.

[inthebrain]

4. Yeah, I think skepticism is a virtue

when dealing with the propertied classes.

Marriage is a dying institution and another tool to keep the masses in line. It's quickly going by the wayside.

[AndyTiedye]

8. The Lesson Being That DEMOCRATS Must Be Absolutely PERFECT

but Repiglicans get a pass on ANYTHING, EVEN THE SAME THING, from the MSM.

[inthebrain]

10. This is just a distraction

Voters are actually not that bad. As long as they know they won't be screwed financially that's all they really dcare about.

This family values and morality crap really ius just filler. It doesn't effect how voters who plan to vote Reupublican to go the other way.