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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:05 PM
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Bush Cronies Deny Kerry and McCain Smears
The people who smeared John McCain's Vietnam record in the South Carolina primary now claim they did nothing wrong.

The Bush campaign was not responsible for the attacks on McCain, said Warren Tompkins of Columbia, the Republican political consultant who ran Bush's S.C. campaign in 2000.

"I'd like for Mr. Kerry to please define what we did to John McCain," Tompkins said. The veterans "came out against John McCain because he had cast some votes against some measures, and they didn't like it. That was the extent of it."

OH REALLY?

CLICK HERE FOR THE TRUTH
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:08 PM
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1. And the really sad thing is.....
McCain will continue to pimp for shrubbie. I have lost all respect for the man--they even smeared his CHILD and he's acting like it never happened.
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:30 PM
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7. McCain wants to be president
by playing nice with Bush, he figures he can run in 2008
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:41 AM
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20. Naw - Bush Offered Sec of State to McCain
and that is why McCain is kissing his arse. Powell is leaving after the election. He has had it with Bush-Cheney.

Also Powell was a Major in Vietnam and covered up the My Lai Massacre.
in 68.

All this Bush-GOP-SBVT crap is not setting well with Colin. He told Bush to shut this scan down and shut those ahole up and Bush will not do it.

This is what's going on. We know for a fact!



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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:11 PM
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2. Bush denied it when McCain called him out 4 year ago also!
I don't understand McCain sitting by and watching these crooks do the same thing again.
He know what this bunch of morons is upto.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:36 PM
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4. Didn't Joe Klein have the vet from SC (in his New Yorker article on Kerry)
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 08:36 PM by blm
saying that he was sorry for what they did to McCain and that Bush lied to them to get their support in 2000?
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:26 PM
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5. You mean Thomas Burch?
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 09:28 PM
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6. he's not apologetic
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DemMother Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:42 PM
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8. Isn't he the one who stood next to Bush at an event W. paid for
Wasn't that in the MoveOn Internet ad...when McCain is talking to Bush at the debate?
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:28 PM
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10. yes. the event was in Sumter, SC
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:11 PM
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9. Jim Gunn...here's the excerpt from the New Yorker article:
The real business of the day was transacted afterward. Kerry mingled easily with the vets, who were mostly African-American; he cussed and joked and talked about places like Da Nang and Da Lat. A pink-faced overweight man approached. "I'm Jim Gunn," he said to Kerry. "Do you remember me?"

Kerry nodded warily. Gunn was the leader of the Coalition of Retired Military Veterans and had attacked Senator John McCain during the 2000 Republican Presidential primary in South Carolina. Kerry had written a letter protesting the charges that another veterans' group had made against McCain-essentially, that McCain was "anti-veteran"-and he had got the other Vietnam combat veterans in the Senate to sign it. Now Jim Gunn said to him, "I just want you to know, Senator, that you were right about McCain and I was wrong. Bush lied to my face, and I'll never support him again." Gunn proceeded to file a bill of particulars against the President on veterans' issues. Then he sighed and said, "I wish there was a machine that could really say when someone is telling the truth, but you sound sincere when you talk about our issues. I represent seventeen thousand vets in South Carolina-I'm like their union boss-and if you run for President next time we're with you."
........

Hope this can help, wyethwire.
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:56 AM
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11. now I remember this guy
I'm not sure if he did much for Kerry in the 2004 South Carolina Primary, however
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:21 AM
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12. if you have links to other McCain smears
Please let me know
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:58 AM
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13. Are you the person who posted the story
overheard on C-Span?

Wow, I am impressed! I saw that C-Span show, as it happened. I was supporting McCain in 2000, & I was following the primaries very closely. I already disliked Bush, but that day, at that moment, when he disclosed accidently what he was going to do to McCain, I began to feel the rage that I have today against him. Our selected pResident is a man without principles, who will stoop to ANY level to WIN.

I have searched the C-Span archives, trying to figure out if they have this incident for sale. If I found it, I was going to send it to the Kerry campaign.

Kudos to you for your week! The person who knows every single detail of everything that happened is Lindsay Graham, who supported McCain, & has said it was the dirtiest campaign in SC history.

Also, Elizabeth Drew, wrote a series of articles for the New Yorker, which detailed many of the incidents of that campaign.

One additional incident: I do not have a link, but during the NY primary, Bush people said McCain had voted to cut funding for breast cancer research. It was a hot topic, because Long Island has a very high incidence of breast cancer. McCain had voted against some huge pork bill, which contained spending for a million things. It caused a huge controversy. But the final insult was that McCain s sister had just had breast cancer.
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:44 AM
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15. apparently Vanity Fair is working on a new story
a retrospective of Bush family dirty tricks
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:09 AM
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14. On McCain campaigning with Bush
I think McCain campaigning with Bush will ultimately backfire on Bush.

Anyone who supported McCain in 2000, still is enraged by what Bush did to him in 2000.

Many Repubs & Indies see the 2 of them together, & the comparison is laughable.

And the people who supported McCain did so because of his Reform Agenda. They did not like the status quo in the Repub party, & they will not vote for Bush.

Also, the MCain platform in 2000 was vastly different than what Bush has done.

John Kerry will get many of these votes, or people will vote 3rd party, or stay home. I know several who refuse to vote for Bush.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:06 AM
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17. Bush Offered McCain Sec of State
when Colin Powell leaves after the election. That is why McCain is kissing Bush's arse.

Remember Powell told Bush-Cheney NOT to invade Iraq, and then he has had to eat shite with Bush-Cheney's invasion and garbage ever since.

Also do your history work. Colin was a Major in Vietnam and covered up the My Lai Massacre, before Seymour Hersh blew it wide open in the press over a year later. Seys got a Pulitizer Prize for that article!

This is the same Seymour Hersh that uncovered the Iraq prisoner abuse scandal and blew that wide open in the press several months ago.
This is why the soldier that had all the prisoner abuse documents sent it to Seys. He knew that Seys was the only guy he could trust.

You know Seymour is the one that Dumbass Bush called a liar and a phoney in public over his prisoner abuse article, only for the public to learn that Bush is the liar and the phoney.

All this crap that O'Neill and his SBVT fraud are saying about there were no Nam atrocities, and this 24/7 Nam crap on TV is not setting well with Powell. We know for a fact that he has told Bush to shut those SBVT aholes down and Bush will not do it.

Do a Google string "My Lai Massacre" "Colin Powell" and see what shows up.

All this make better sense now as to what is going on?!.....

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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:17 AM
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19. Do NOT lecture me on history!
I know all about Colin Powell & his history.

That has zero, zilch, nada to do with McCain & Bush.

And John Kerry will win this election, therefore Bush will NOT be selecting a new cabinet.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:02 AM
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16. Last Night SPAETH Claimed "Zero" Involvement in the McCAIN Smear
On the SCAROROUGH circus, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x664471

"Not true. I didn't run (the McCAIN Smear)."

"None (connection). Zero. What's lower than zero? The KERRY campaign twists things."

Here's a link to where she said that being part of the McCAIN smear was one of the 5 top things she regrets most in her life----which, however, wasn't enough of a regret to keep her from partaking of the swiftbot smear of JK.

*******QUOTE*******

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Merrie_Spa ...

Merrie Spaeth

Merrie Spaeth is "the public relations consultant representing" Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT). "According to CBS television news, election commission records gave the maximum possible £2,000 donation" to the Bush-Cheney '04 Inc. re-election campaign in June 2003. <1>

Her role with the SBVT attack on Kerry prompted the Kerry campaign allegations that she played a role in attempting to discredit John McCain in the Republican presidential primary in 2000. Spaeth told National Review that she was approached to provide PR support after the two Texas millionaires Sam and Charles Wyly, created the front group Republicans for Clean Air to attack McCains environmental policies.

Spaeth said that she agreed to field press inquiries for the group. It "turned out to be the biggest mistake, at least one of the top five," of her life, she said. "I regret being involved in any way," she said. <2>

Spaeth, founder of Spaeth Communications, Inc., "served as a White House Fellow and was assigned to FBI Director William Webster. She was the first Fellow and one of the first two women on the director’s staff. From the FBI, she served two years at the Federal Trade Commission as director of public affairs, and in 1983, President Ronald Reagan named her director of media relations at the White House. Merrie introduced satellite communications to the White House, and the electronic White House News Service. One newspaper headline said she 'took the White House into the Space Age.' <3>

********UNQUOTE*******

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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:52 AM
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21. move along, nothing to see here
they hope the voters have short memories

McCain himself sure seems to
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:09 AM
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18. I just don't get it...
how can McCain support Bush after he did this to him:shrug:
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wyethwire Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:35 PM
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22. blind ambition makes you do funny things
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