The 'Kerry on The Daily Show' Thread

[WilliamPitt]

This will be HUGE. I guarantee it. :)

Spoiler:

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-kerry-daily-show,0,3824597.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

[redstateblues]

1. LOL- Thanks- You've got a good sense of humor

[Catch22Dem]

2. Is it something NOT in the spoiler? (n/t)

[Sagan]

3. ooohhh.. Kerry's smart.. *spoiler*

The part about Chimpy being a "good debater" is a clear shot at the lowered expectations that the Chimp has benefited from in past debates.

[Frances]

7. Agree that Kerry was smart to say that Bush is a good debater

It's not that Bush can discuss issues but he does not how to connect with the uninformed and unfortunately the majority of the electorate has been uninformed in the past.

I think it will be hard for Kerry to debate Bush for the same reason that it was hard for Gore to debate him.

Kerry is serious and thoughtful and complex whereas Bush looks like the guy next door.

That said, I hope with all my heart that Kerry wins this election.

[Maine-i-acs]

50. Missed punch line for Jon!!!

"Actually, he's a Master Debater, wouldn't you say Senator?"

[Kool Kitty]

74. Bush looks like the guy next door?

Yes, if you live next door to the village's chief idiot, he probably does.

[blondeatlast]

49. Loved it. LOVED IT. And without a trace of irony in his voice.

This guy is GOOD.

[ContinentalOp]

4. Somebody here better have this clip up tomorrow!

The Comedy Central site has been kind of screwed up lately and I can't seem to watch the Daily Show clips anymore. Plus it takes them forever to put them up anyway. Please somebody throw us cable-free losers a bone!

[slinkerwink]

5. ha, you beat me to posting the official Kerry on TDS thread

[WilliamPitt]

6. Sorry

You knowe how I am with breaking stories. :)

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

10. Yeah come on geez

let the guy scoop SOMETHING tonight!

Smooch!

[Mick Knox]

8. 15 minutes to go (MAYBE) :P

[LTR]

9. Here's a preview spoiler

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x664252

[Doosh]

11. hopefully, this is his "saxophone moment"

[Mick Knox]

12. This will be my first time watching this show

I'm a Comedy Central News (or whatever its called) virgin.

[A_Possum]

15. Me too

I think it's called "The Daily Show" ;-)

Not on till midnight for me. And every cable box in the house on the blink except the one in my husband's (uncomfortable) office. But I shall suffer through!

[question everything]

47. It usually repeats the next day in the early evening

so you can have your next chance.

[madmax]

30. You've been missing a great show.

I tune in every night. After watching cable or network news I need a Daily Show fix to straighten my head out so I can sleep. :bounce:

[blondeatlast]

55. You should start watching. Ususally they have a couple of "feature"

stories, always hysterical.

I'm a Christian, and yet I LOVE "This Week in God."

[0rganism]

79. Wait... you've had cable for a while, but this is your first Daily Show?

My God! Someone get zwade hooked to an archive!

http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/

Seriously, you've been missing the only "news" commentary that's consistently worth watching over the last 5 years. It's not just the jokes. Jon Stewart has earned the ire of mainstream news anchors for not selling out to kiss bush ass. While other hosts are throwing softballs to the likes of Richard Pearl, Jon will ask the simple tough questions that get to the heart of the issues, all the while keeping it funny. Jon does some of the best interviews, including those of other media whor -- err, hosts. His recent interview with Wolf "u-boat commander" Blitzer is particularly memorable.

[Joylaughter]

13. 3 Johns Now

I think you are right. This is going to be a big big moment in the campaign. John and John may very well be elected because the last real news is on Comedy Central! Stewart is the 3rd John.

[Amaya]

14. Kick

[Mick Knox]

16. LOL I think I found a new show to watch

This is hillarious

Price Ungouging

[WilliamPitt]

17. Yep

[bigtree]

18. :smoke:

[Cush]

19. on now

[Longhorn]

20. He's lost his voice!

Maybe he has a cold or something. But he looks good!

[DemWitch]

21. Kerry, Kerry, Kerry...

Shrubya, in this venue would look like a complete idiot...

[blondeatlast]

56. Stewart has pretty much admitted his very pro-Kerry bias.

He'd SLAUGHTER Bunnypants.

[Tatiana]

22. Bush = Stubborn. I like that talking point. n/t

[SW FL Dem]

48. I agree - Bush is not decisive

he is stubborn. Can't admit he's made a mistake, refuses to reconsider his decisions even after he's been proven wrong. Great line, hope the campaign uses it often.

[Justice]

64. That Was Great

Bush is stubborn. Keeps stubbornly on the wrong path. That is true and a good line.

[WI_DEM]

23. "Bush has won every debate he's been in..."

Al Gore, Ann Richards...love it that he is lowering expectations.

[slinkerwink]

25. exactly...

[redstateblues]

43. Brilliant- He Said it First- Now Chimp Has To react

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

24. I heart John Kerry

I want to shake his hand.

[cynatnite]

26. He's Great!

He'll make an excellent president. This is just great!

We couldn't ask for a better future president!

Cyn:)

[TheDonkey]

27. Kerry has a better sense of humor, he should crack more jokes

He''s really trying to come off as this is a campaign speech, which is ok and all but I think Kerry is pretty funny.

[Mick Knox]

28. "We want to talk to America"

Best JK interview i've seen.

[Gin]

39. what did Kerry mean by this?

"You'd be amazed at the number of people who want to introduce themselves to you in the men's room," he said. "It's the most bizarre part of this entire thing."

[hyphenate]

46. Er, if you were in the bathroom peeing

Would you REALLY want someone to walk up to you, with your business in your hand, to introduce themselves to you and want to shake your hand? This is eerily similar to the reason that Stephen King gave up signing autographs for the exact same reason.

[question everything]

53. Used to be a joke about John Wayne

who hated to go to public bathroom, since, inadvertently, the man standing next to him would exclaim: you are John Wayne! while making a full body turn... and while still doing his business..

[Justice]

66. Great Line

Saying Bush screens everyone going into Bush events, makes them sign loyalty oaths - Kerry says, everyone welcome, we want to talk to America.

[WilliamPitt]

29. He looked tired

[Mick Knox]

31. Probably is tired.

[Philostopher]

40. Yeah.

Nice rapport with Jon, though. Makes Kerry seem accessible. I like the way he hemmed and hawed, then talked about people approaching him in the men's room -- I don't think he was really thinking about it, but that will actually work with The Daily Show's demographic. Humanizes him, and kind of tacitly says, 'I'm available, I don't have goons to keep people away from me 24/7.

I think ultimately, tired or not, it will prove to have been a good thing. It's a sure-fire way to reach that audience -- and any undecideds who may rest within it.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

45. I thought so too

remember he was gonna take a short vacation, people were screaming about it here... what did it turn out to be, a 3 day weekend that included a press event?

[TheDonkey]

67. Yes, hopefully those who aren't as

familiar with Kerry and his style as we at DU are couldn't notice. Kerry definetly seemed drained, but still was pretty good.

[Catherine Vincent]

32. Kerry was great but there was one thing he said that I disagree with.

Kerry said that Bush beat Gore in the debates. I disagree completely. Bush did not beat Gore in the debates, Gore focused more on his looks than the actual debate and it thru him off. BUSH DID NOT BEAT GORE IN THE DEBATES!

[MissB]

35. It's called lowering the expectations

Or raising the expectations, depending on who we're talking about. Lower them for Kerry, raise them for Bush. Or vice versa.

[slinkerwink]

36. it's called "lowering expectations" about Bush

It's setting up the expectations game and that's why Kerry said that.

[iwantmycountryback]

37. Kerry knows that

He's just trying to raise the expectations for Bush when he kills him in the debates.

[elperromagico]

38. That's to build up the expectations for Bush.

Remember that Bush benefits from low expectations. We take away one of his strong suits if we up the expectations. :)

[Still_Loves_John]

41. Kerry's just trying to raise Bush's expectations

In ever debate, George Bush is "underestimated" by everyone, so he gets to claim victory. If most people think he can't string two words together and he does, than he becomes the winner. Gore won the debates, but because people expected him to slaughter Bush, it didn't seem like a victory. Kerry is trying to prevent that from happening.

[AP]

42. I remember only a few things from those debates and they were all points

for Bush:

- Bush said that global warning was only a theory and a lot of people don't believe it's true. Did Gore even try to refute that?

- When Gore crowded Bush on the stage and Bush made a funny face that made Gore look like a fool.

- That orange makeup on Gore. I can't believe he did that. There must be a story behind that.

I don't remember Gore scoring ANY points in those debates.

The VP debates were worse. Lieberman laughed at Cheney's joke about never having made money off his connections to the federal government. I almost thought Joe was thinking about voting for Cheney 'cause Cheney was such a funny guy.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

44. Kerry is intentionally setting up high expectations for Bush.

Very smart! He deliberately said Bush was a good debater so nobody falls into the trap of assuming Shrub will step on his d*ck. The reason Gore was perceived by many in the media to have "lost" the debates is that everyone assumed Gore would clean his clock, so the expectations for Shrub were ever low. When his fly wasn't open and he managed not to make a complete ass of himself, he did so much better than they expected that they were able to pick on Gore's weaknesses and conclude Shrub won. Kerry won't let that happen. He wants the media to expect Bush to be freaking brilliant (ha!) so that when he isn't, he will be seen to have lost.

[Catherine Vincent]

75. Okay. Thanks guys!

I didn't get what Kerry was up to. I couldn't believe he said that, I figured he had a good reason. Very smart.

[blondeatlast]

59. Lowering expectations--you need to PASS IT ON. nt

[K8-EEE]

77. Yes He Did -- For Gore To Even Come CLOSE With Chimp...

HE LOST!! He ran a shitty campaign -- over handled, too careful. I really expected him to shine in the debates because I'd seen him with Perot just kill him, but he didn't...he was stiff, he made more SENSE than Bush of course...but he didn't outright KILL him which means, he LOST because Bush is a moron.

[PA Democrat]

Karl Rove is plotting how he can get Bush on TDS

He's planning to make the audience sign loyalty oaths and laugh pledges to ensure that they laugh at bush's jokes.

[blondeatlast]

63. Steart and producer Lizz Winstead are die-hard Dems.

Winstead even has a show on Air America with Chuck D of Public Enemy.

I suspect they would LOVE to get Bunnypants, but if Bush's advisors have any sense at all, they won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

[iwantmycountryback]

33. Kerry did a great job

Stewart was also great mocking the media. Kerry actually has a plan for this country. "We want to talk to America"

[seabeyond]

34. kerry was sooooo cute. kerry was just cute

he has just got to do these sit down shows. not serious ones, but ones that make kerry laugh. he loves humor, his face is perfect for laughing.

also i saw, he is a touchy guy. he touches. nothing phoney with all the touching stuff with edwards. kerry is a touching dude

i am so glad i saw this, have i said kerry was soooooo cute

[AuntPatsy]

57. I agree with you

He came off very personable, even more so then any other time I watched him. That was perhaps the greatest move of Kerrys campaign getting him in the Daily News Show...

Kudo's to John Stewart as well, a very classy act.

[seabeyond]

72. very much stewart, it was his wittiness, perfect

yes jon was good too, lol

[AmerDem]

51. It wasn't HUGE!

But it was good to see Kerry in something other then a set up clip by the repuke media!

[StlMo]

52. John Kerry and Jon Stewart were both excellent.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

54. My take: An okay performance by Kerry. Stewart pretty much

lobbed softballs to Kerry. Kerry did fine, appeared relaxed and at ease. He is not the natural media megastar that Clinton or John F. Kennedy are, but then again, virtually no one is.

What might be good for appearances like this in the future is for Kerry to have a little joke or story especially prepared.

[iwantmycountryback]

60. Lobbed softballs?

I think Stewart was just trying to embarass the media that felt shafted that Kerry would go on his show. There were some fairly real questions.

[Placebo]

58. I WANT TO MAKE LOVE TO JOHN KERRY.

Is that wrong?

[iwantmycountryback]

61. Uh I think so actually

:D

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

62. Well I love him in a different way

but I don't guess it's wrong if you just WANT to. Doubt you'll get a chance to, sorry.

I still want a threesome with Howard Dean and John Edwards, but I'm not sure that's forthcoming.

Drat.

[Placebo]

65. Ha, John Edwards + Howard Dean threesome.

Interesting :D

[Mick Knox]

69. bleeeeeeeeeeech.

thanks for ruining what was a great night for me with that disgusting visual.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

71. It's

ME and Dean and Edwards, you aren't in it, you aren't even in the room, so why are you looking?

[seabeyond]

73. lol lol lol moonbeam

you bad, wink

[Raenelle]

76. Don't know, but have you heard about fthevote.com?

They're trying to get people who will fuck Republicans if they guarantee not to vote in the 2004 election--exchanging sex for lowering Bush's vote.

Performing that duty would NOT be wrong, but my problem with the whole thing is how in samhill could you ever, ever, ever trust a Republican to be honorable and keep his word.

[0rganism]

80. No way. Any serious repuke would fuck you and vote anyway

Not a plan. Not even a good idea. I bet the person who thought it up is a republican trying to get laid.

[EST]

81. Giggle, giggle

Tehe tehe haha Thank you, I needed that!

[Ohio Dem]

68. Shit, Will. I looked, but didn't see this thread, so I started one

about the "Bush is a great debater" thing.

I agree that it was a good move on Kerry's part. I'll go alert my post now, as it's a dupe.

[Neecy]

70. He was good

He did seem to have a cold, but he appeared relaxed. I just wish he would have been a little more emphatic about the Swift Boat liar issue - but he probably knew that if he had, his comments would have made another news cycle about it. Maybe it was better to blow it off, but damn, it's such an ugly smear job.

[JI7]

78. and those who watch the daily show

already know the truth.

it might also be good to address it on a comedy show rather than things considered to be more serious news shows because it might make the swiftboat liars look more like the jokes they are rather than something that deserves too serious acknowledgement.