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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 04:57 PM
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Swift Boat October Surprise? FUD? (Fear, uncertainty, doubt)
This may just be FUD, but keep your eyes open for signs and clues.

Dr. Jack Wheeler, Thursday, August 19, 2004

All indications are that the Swiftees’ offensive against Hanoi John is severely damaging the Kerry/Edwards candidacy. The television ads by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and the #1 bestseller on Amazon, Unfit For Command, have credibly assaulted the basis for Kerry’s campaign: that his self-proclaimed status as a “war hero” during 4 months in Vietnam qualify him to be President of the United States.

However… in the famous words of Al Jolson: “You ain’t heard nothin’ yet.” The Swiftees have prepared an October Surprise for Hanoi John that is going to blow his candidacy out of the water. I can’t tell you what it is, but I can tell you the television and radio ads have already been taped, and they are going to have an impact like an elephant sitting on a donkey.

The Swiftees have three things in abundance: money, brains, and balls. They know exactly how to go for the jugular, they have the dough to do it, and they are saving their best shot for last. The Democrats will not know what hit them and will not know how to retaliate. Get set folks. The Kerry Train Wreck is not going to be a pretty sight.



http://www.tothepointnews.com/article.php?id=406&i=
(small article, just for reference, no need to visit)
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 04:58 PM
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1. But will they have any credibility left by October?
Do they have any now?
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 04:59 PM
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2. Kerry is leading Bush in every major poll I've seen
All indications are that the Swiftees’ offensive against Hanoi John is severely damaging the Kerry/Edwards candidacy.

This guy is proven a liar in the first sentence that you posted.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:00 PM
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3. What a bunch of BS
No... they took their best shot first.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:00 PM
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4. I Thought The 527's Had To Stop Ads
after a certain point...
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:01 PM
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5. I don't know.
There's a new repug 527 that just started and they're supposed to start running ads in October.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:07 PM
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6. Nothing they could possibly have compares to what Kerry knows from BCCI
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 05:08 PM by blm
and IranContra investigations. Bush knows Kerry has major goods on him, his father and most of their cronies. Documents ruled classified back then, but could easily come out today. Poppy Bush didn't have to pardon all those people before he left for nothing, y'know.

Let's see exactly how DUMB the Bushies can get.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:04 PM
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12. Here's the link to Kerry and BCCI
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:15 PM
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7. Just curious - who is this Ahole Wheeler?
eom
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:28 PM
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9. Seek and ye...
shall find the CNP...which always makes me cringe. His CNP bio...

Dr. Jack Wheeler - CNP 1988, 1996, 1998; president, Freedom Research Foundation. The Conservative Caucus (TCC) helped Jack Wheeler found the Freedom Research Foundation (FRF) in 1984; president, Jack Wheeler Expeditions; author, The Adventurer's Guide; Up against the Red Empire: Anti­Soviet Guerrilla Warfare in the Third World; leader, numerous expeditions to Asia, Africa, New Guinea, The North Pole, the Alps, the Amazon; Guiness Book of World Records: Most Northerly Parachute Jump.

"...he has lectured on Aristotelian ethics. Author of numerous articles in political philosophy and geopolitics, he began in the early '80s a series of extensive visits to anti-Soviet guerrilla insurgencies in Nicaragua, Angola, Mozambique, Ethiopia, Cambodia, Laos, and Afghanistan, and to democracy movements in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union, becoming an unofficial liaison between them and the Reagan White House. Based on this, he developed the strategy for dismantling the Soviet Empire, adopted by the White House, known as the "Reagan Doctrine."...As Contributing Editor to Strategic Investment, one of the world's most influential investment publications, his column "Behind The Lines" has developed an avid international following..." 46
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:18 PM
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8. They'll try to blast Kerry for his visit to Paris in 1971
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 06:19 PM by farmbo
He met with some N. Vietnamese ministry official about getting US prisoners released. The meeting and his mission are in the public record and are a positive, not a negative, for his campaign.

No doubt the Swiftboat Liars will find five talking heads who will sign affidavits and cut a spot asserting that he met secretly with General Giap of the NVA to turn over missle access codes and troop locations.

An October slime attack, but hardly an October surprise.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:42 PM
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11. I think that's it. In Oct. they'll push "negotiating with the enemy" lie
Yes. They will call the meeting "negotiating" with the enemy, but that is a lie.

Maybe the Kerry team should get this on the table during the convention, so that the Republicans will get off message and froth and foam.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:31 PM
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10. Help create a reference work on SBVT to extend the one in DU's Editorials
. . . we may reaaly need it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x69684

(Please send me links and stories to add to this.)
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