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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 12:36 AM
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To my fellow Hillary primary supporters: YES to Obama/Biden
I became a Hillary supporter after only two were left. My road was Edwards (left over from 2004 but with less enthusiasm), Biden, Edwards and Hillary.

I did not support her because of her gender but because I was impressed with her knowledge and stamina and ability to stand the fire during the debates and the campaign. And I did not support of Obama because I was not convinced that he has the experience and specific policies to convince many voters to vote for him. And, as Hillary was subjected to sexist remarks and as the media adored Obama, my support for her was deepened.

But we fought the good fight and Obama has become our nominee and I knew that I would vote for him, even though my doubts about his experience, about his ability to attract more mature voters with his "change and hope" remained. Mostly, I was concerned about his lack of understanding of foreign policy. This is why I supported Biden. Even before Bhuto was assassinated, he said that we needed to look at Pakistan. And I anticipated a crisis someplace - like the recent in Georgia - that would put McCain in a better light.

Thus, having Biden on the ticket, providing the experience, the stability, makes me a lot more confident of our chances to win.

A few words about what "demographics" Biden will bring: nothing, and it is irrelevant. With Gore and Cheney these requirements were no longer in the equation. Both Clinton and Bush selected a VP who would complement them, their personalities and their views of how they wanted to govern. In the case of Bush, it was to show the voters that he had a seasoned known entity who could guide his policies, and this is similar to Biden - as much as I loath to compare anyone to Cheney.

And this is why it is great that Biden was selected for who he is, no what he is: a minority, a woman, a governor, etc. which many were seeking.

During the primaries many said that while they would like to see a woman president, Hillary was not the one that they preferred. The flip side of this, of course, would have been to select a woman as a VP - like Sebelius - to placate the Hillary primary supporters. I think that selecting her for that reason would have been offensive. Here, here, don't worry your pretty little head, we have a woman on the ticket.

One last comparison to Cheney - sorry, Joe. In 2016 Biden will be 74 and, no doubt, will not seek the presidency himself. This means that, again, the field will be wide open as it has been this year and I think it is a lot better. Except for papa Bush no sitting VP was elected in recent times. (Yes, I know, Gore won, but he has not been sitting in the white House the past 7 years now, has he?)

After 8 years, it is always a time for change and a sitting VP cannot bring it.

So, congratulations Senator Biden. An Obama/Biden ticket is a winning ticket that I can enthusiastically support.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:56 PM
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1. Kick
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:58 PM
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2. I agree wholeheartedly with your post.
And while I wasn't a "Hillary supporter" persay (I *supported* her during the primaries and the vitriol that was so often thrown at her, but I didn't "support" her outside of that), I completely think that Biden is a amazing candidate.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:00 PM
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3. K&R!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:01 PM
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4. Solid choice. (eom)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:07 PM
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5. K/R
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:21 PM
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6. Agreed, except he may bring some demographic help with working class white voters and women.
He is from Scranton, PA, and has done a lot legislatively for workers' and womens' issues. He relates well to some of the Hillary voters who might not be altogether comfortable with a black candidate or one that they perceive to be unlike them in background.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 05:31 PM
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10. Thanks. Some added bonus, I suppose (nt)
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:26 PM
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7. I am a Hillary supporter, but I ENTHUSIASTICALLY support Obama/Biden. My new avatar:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:29 PM
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8. K&R
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:30 PM
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9. Biden was my second choice for POTUS and my second choice for Veep.
It's a good match.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 05:44 PM
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11. Ditto on almost everything
I supported Mark Warner initially, then moved to Edwards but not as enthusiastically as '04. Hillary was obviously superior during the long series of debates so she was an easy choice above Obama.

I don't think I'll ever forget the disgraceful treatment of Hillary during the January through June period, particularly through March. Olbermann could bat 1.000 for the rest of his career and never be the same in my eyes.

Long gone. In sports I never have any trouble rooting against someone in the semis, then passionately for them in the finals. This is a great ticket.

Unfortunately, I do see examples the other way. My sister is more than a decade younger and Hillary is the first candidate she has supported passionately. This morning I got an email and she is hardly thrilled with Biden, and miffed than Hillary was not considered as VP.

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 05:46 PM
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12. I hope Hillary has a very visible role and works closely with Obama/Biden
That is what's best for our country at this point and I hope for the involvement of all of Hillary's supporters, there is a lot to do and we need to win by a landslide.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 05:48 PM
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13. Why not have Biden at the top of the ticket?
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 05:50 PM
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15. We've elected the top of the ticket.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 05:52 PM
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16. Because like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden didn't earn the most votes.
Some call that the democratic primary system in these here, United States of America.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 05:49 PM
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14. Good post QE! K&R!
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 06:57 PM
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17. I have been behind Senator Obama
since the end of the primaries, and I think we most certainly have the right Joe this time.

I can barely WAIT for the Convention, and for the GE to start for real, with an ACTUAL nominee, rather than a "presumed" nominee.

GOD, I LOVE THIS STUFF!


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