The Biden pick kind of raises the bar for a Pawlenty pick, doesn't it.

[saltpoint]

After Joe Biden and that white-knuckled appearance today in Springfield, I think Pawlenty is going to have to do some serious miracle work to get back into the zone of consideration.

Maybe McCain will tap The Exorcist after all.

[livetohike]

1. Pawlenty = boring, but who else do they have?

No one. No one. They are seriously screwn :-).

[cynatnite]

4. Short of breaking Raygun out of his box...

not much they can do to counter such a great ticket.

[saltpoint]

5. It's true. I think they're down to Pawlenty, Pat Boone, and Mel Gibson.

[livetohike]

8. Pat Boone is exciting compared to Pawlenty

:rofl:

[saltpoint]

12. Agree. But Pawlenty sings better!

[cynatnite]

15. Even Toby Keith won't take that job n/t

[saltpoint]

31. : )

[DCBob]

2. It does make McCain's choice more challenging..

Biden will destroy Pawlenty or Romney. McCain might go the female VP route to couteract.

[saltpoint]

6. Very possible. Kay Bailey Hutchison wants to be the governor of Texas

but her phone might be ringing here real soon. I'm still not seeing Gov. Palin on the ticket, for some reason, although at this point, who knows?

[DCBob]

17. Yes. If he picks a female VP it will likely be Hutchinson.

I wonder if she is willing? It could destroy her career.

[Lucinda]

3. Only thing Mac can do is find a good woman candidate.

Otherwise he's screwn.

[cynatnite]

7. Sorry, but too many repukes are scared of a woman president...

McCain has no choice but to pick someone the RW nutjobs would accept as president should he croak.

[Lucinda]

9. I think his only chance of being remotely competative is with a women.

The game has changed. We'll know what he's going to do soon enough.

[FrenchieCat]

10. And I would hope that an anti-choice woman is the only hope he has.....

and that's questionnable.....because they may lose a lot of the White guy votes...because O'Biden, in this case, have a more compelling case to make to them.

Choosing Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas is the only choice that might get McCain through....and that won't win Ohio, Pennsylvannia and Missouri!

[Lucinda]

19. I don't know of a single Rep pro-choice one. LOL

There has been some discussion of Palin, but who knows what McC will do. I just think that the last week of veep coverage, plus Biden as the payoff means they are gonna have to do something big. Biden was a huge game changer.

[saltpoint]

11. Hi, wlucinda. Yes -- it frees him to be a bit bolder with his choice

-- and it could be a woman.

The GOP doesn't have very many at the upper levels (not surprisingly).

Gov. Palin? Senator Hutchison? Wretched Condi Rice?

It's a thin list. Barely enough for a bridge game. A bridge -to-nowhere game.

What's your gut call on this one?

[Franks Wild Years]

Who wants one of them a moment away from the White House?

It's a key issue with McCain and his string of health problems.

Palin - Presidential? No, not a chance. And besides, is it good for her to be rushing off to McCain's side for a strenuous campaign a few months after giving birth to a son with Down's?

Hutchison - "more campaign contributions from large oil and gas corporations than any other member of Congress"

Rice - BushMcCainBushMcCainMcCushCushMcCashMcBush

Whitman - Unqualified.

Fiorina - Unqualified.

[Lucinda]

32. I don't think Palin's being a new mom would be a deal breaker.

There are new moms all over the country doing their job ever day. I think her lack of national profile might be a bigger problem.

[saltpoint]

33. To your question -- not me. I don't want ANY of them near the White

House.

The negative footnotes to each of McCain's picks forces him to make a guaranteed bad choice.

I LIKE him in that position!

[Lucinda]

40. Especially when he is going to have to rock the boat to get much buzz at all.

Even a biased media has to have SOMETHING to work with.

[Lucinda]

29. Palin would be a possiblilty - shes typical rep choice-wise, but did veto legislation

that helped those seeking partnership rights, so that might be appealing to some disafected Dems and more liberal Indys. Shes hugely popular at home but really not well known.

Condi would tie him even further to junior, so I'd think she'd be out. Hutchison doesn't seem very exciting and doesn't seem to have any real hook to bring anyone "party shopping" in.

Don't know a whole lot about any other options, but I just cannot think of a single man that could spark any huge enthusiasm.

[saltpoint]

36. McCain as Mother Hubbard, opening the cupboard door only to find

it's bare of veep picks.

[Lucinda]

41. LOL

:thumbsup:

[Phoonzang]

14. Yep, I think it's going to be a woman or Ridgeberman nt

[Lucinda]

35. I cant see anything else that would even get mcCain out of the starting gate now.

I didnt think about Ridge though...he at least might help with the fear card...

[Phoonzang]

44. If it's Ridge the Dems should immedately start sending rolls of

duct tape to their supporters.

[Motown_Johnny]

16. I was suggesting the possibility of Christine Todd Whitman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Todd_Whitman



Mostly because I hate her (politically) and she stands for everything I loath. IMO the perfect match to McGaffe.


Not that I know anything about repug dark horse candidates

[FrenchieCat]

22. That would be a losing ticket.

Whitman gives off a weak aura. And I think she's too moderate.

Unless the woman is a hawk and forceful, it ain't gonna work.

[Lucinda]

38. I dunno. Mac is hawk enough for two of them, but weak wouldnt stand up to Biden at all.

They are looking more and more screwn as I research. LOL

[PM7nj]

24. If it's Whitman New Jersey will give Obama 70% of the vote.

Frisky Christie is pretty much hated here now and has become a running joke.

[saltpoint]

26. I think FrenchieCat's observation on CTW is pretty close --

she appears weak to some voters. Whether she is or not I have no personal idea, but politically, she doesn't seem to hav that hard-boiled concrete heart that the Pukes hold so high.

There's no Mean Jean Schmidt in her. McCain likely is looking for someone who can take a knife to someone's throat. A keen sense of the jugular.

And I don't know if Kay Bailey would take it. She might. But I think she's been honed in on the Texas governor's job for quite a while now. She wants it so bad she can taste it.

And Liddy Dole is probabl out of the question. She's mixed her Avon order with last night's mint julep and is outside on the barn howling at the moon. Again. Bob's probably wondering what he needs all that viagra for in the first place.

[Lucinda]

37. Aftre reading her wiki, I think she'd be a great gift to us.

That shot of her frisking the kid would kill them in their tracks.

[TTUBatfan2008]

13. Given their decision to attack Biden's criticism of Obama...

I would say they better think long and hard about bringing Romney aboard. That will look incredibly forced. The two men despise each other and their primary campaigns got VERY nasty against each other. They better really think long and hard about using Biden's words against Obama if they're going to turn around and get Romney, who pretty much called McCain an idiot on the economy (which is the TRUTH of the matter, but still it's a pretty nasty attack).

[RollWithIt]

18. What do you mean by "White-knuckle"....

I'm just wondering the meaning. Like it was pressure packed and Biden delivered 100%?

[saltpoint]

20. My fault -- I didn't explain it very well.

I'm using the phrase to denote an ability to street-fight.

In times past a lot of folks grew up in cities and in those neighborhoods, you played baseball in the street and hung out with the crowd here or there and once in awhile, there'd be a dust-up and a rumble.

In cases like that, a white-knuckled punch is a hard fist to somebody's person. I think Biden is as educated and genteel as they come but he's a fighter, too, and it sends a signal to McCain and the Pukes that their next couple of months are not going to be smooth ones, and that their character smears of Democrats will not go unanswered or without penalty.

A hard fist's white knuckles in the service of self-defense.

[RollWithIt]

45. Gotcha, that was my second choice of meaning...

You'd be better served describing him simply as a knock down drag out fighter. Lets come up with fighter adjectives!

[MichiganVote]

21. Pawlenty who?

[Barack_America]

23. Tim Kaine wiped the floor with Pawlenty...

During a FoxNews Sunday appearance.

As much as I admire Tim Kaine, I concede that he has nowhere the verbal sparring skills of Joe Biden. And yet Kaine was able to make Pawlenty look like a fool.

Quite frankly, I don't know who else McCain could pick. The Huckster?

[saltpoint]

28. It's true. Kaine took off his Fact gloves and slapped little Tim around

somethin' awful.

Good point -- who else is there?!

[Barack_America]

34. Indeed. Biden would obviously make Romney look like a stick-up-the-ass elitist.

So Romney's no longer a great pick either.

The Huckster could out-ordinary Biden, but I haven't heard his name mentioned in months.

[jillan]

25. Bring it on!!!

[JerseygirlCT]

27. I'm totally biased

but next to that ticket, everything else looks BORING.

Mullet man isn't going to fix that.

[saltpoint]

30. Hi, JerseygirlCt. It took me awhile here on DU to understand why people

were referring to Pawlenty as "mullet man."

I finally got it.

Next, we're going to put in indoor plumbin'!

[JerseygirlCT]

42. Hey OC. LOL!

Yes, I guess he cut off the party in the back in order to appear a serious candidate for the VP nomination. Just like Crist apparently got married!

[saltpoint]

43. LOL! Maybe Charlie will marry the lopped-off mullett!

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

39. Timmeh is a drip - boring speaker

and a guy who turned his back on his working class roots to sniff the duffs of the rich and powerful. Biden would destroy him w/o breaking a sweat.