Rachael made a great point tonight. I felt included.

[Hamlette]

She talked about the GOP convention of 1992 (She directed her comments to Pat Buchannon who, if you remember, gave the xenophobic speech....ick) Rachael said after watching that convention at age 19 she felt like the GOP didn't want her in this country.

I've felt that way about the GOP for 8 years (at least). They don't want us if we are not just like them. They wish we'd leave because we don't belong.

I don't ever feel that way about the dems. The only group they don't like is the intolerant.

Seems to me.

It was nice to hear someone else give voice to it.

[complain jane]

1. Rachel rocks.

Rachel Maddow is a voice so many of us have been waiting to hear.

[Hamlette]

2. she is

she's better than Olbermann because she doesn't do snark.

She trashed Pat on the POW thing tonight. I think getting her own show has made her a tad bolder.

I can't wait until her show starts. One more hour of must see TV each day. Since I don't watch MSM news (since the 2004 loss, not once, not ever the NewsHour). Now I've got two hours plus The Daily Show.

[Egnever]

4. Yea but she is killing herself

She is losing weight and those bags under her eyes are getting bigger by the day.

She needs to take a step back I think theres only so much opne person can do.

Love ya Rachel, now get some sleep!

[lamp_shade]

14. She has also cut way back on the makeup they're trying to force on her.

Her beauty is similar to the beauty of Kelly McGillis in the role she played in Witness.

[shireen]

3. i wonder how many people watching msnbc understood that comment.

Most of us who have followed her on AAR know her sexual orientation, and understand what she meant. GOP hates gays. And they're not too fond of women and minorities and the poor. What an incredibly selfish intolerant party ....

[liberalla]

5. I wondered that too.

I loved hearing her say that in prime time, but agree it probably escaped many people's attention. And, of course no one on the panel said another word, stemming the conversation from going any further in that direction.

[TheDonkey]

8. That's why I could never stand with republicans

for the same reason she stated. I will not support a party that is controlled by thugs that literally hate me and my family.

[Hamlette]

17. I felt the same way she does and I'm not gay

I'm an educated, atheist, white, female, democrat.

All of those things exclude me from the GOP UNLESS I believe the only role of government is to make the rich richer.

I interpreted what she said way beyond her "gayness".

[shireen]

23. absolutely agree. nt.

[dkf]

6. I hope Pat felt bad. Its so much easier to be mean when you

can't see how bad you make real people, and even worse friends, feel.

[polichick]

16. I only wish the Pats of the world ever felt bad about their hatefulness. I saw that too...

...and hoped the same thing, but you could tell Pat only cared that he got upstaged. What a creep!

[Withywindle]

7. I relate to that too.

I remember that speech of Buchanan's. Vividly. He was laying down the gauntlet, and saying if you're not straight, white, Christian, anglophonic, male, and right-wing: this is not your country. It's a cultural war!

I just knew that as a woman, this doctrine of kinder kuche kirche was death to me, and I'm not a super-idealist on any front but I suppose I'd be willing to fight and die for "entartete Kunst" if I must.

Yeah, he was against the Iraq War. A stopped clock is right twice a day.

But read this, and know that in the war that matters, he is NOT on our side.

http://www.buchanan.org/pa-92-0817-rnc.html

I'm so glad he has to look a lesbian in the eye on national TV regularly. I'm so glad he has to acknowledge she is SO much smarter and well-informed and clever than him. I'm so glad that in the dark of the night, he has to be aware of his own mortality and realize that when his generation is gone, it will be replaced by thousands of people who have no comprehension of his bigotry or why anyone would have thought his views made sense.

[quantass]

9. Video?

[emulatorloo]

10. It was an amazing moment -- she really put herself out there and spoke the truth

It made me appreciate her even more -- I've gone from 100% on her to 180%

[Jennicut]

11. I think this is good for Pat because you do become friends with the people you work with

Maybe seeing direct evidence of Rethug actions in how they hurt real actual people will change him. I think somewhere deep down (and I mean DEEP down) there is a tiny pitter patter of an underused heart. He's like the grinch. That is why I like MSNBC best. They have Joe and Pat forced to work with liberals. In Joe's case it may be a lost cause but Tweety seems to be coming around.

[lamp_shade]

22. Good point. I've watched Pat and Chris come almost to blows many times and yet

they always kiss and make up.

[BklynChick]

12. That was a great moment. She spoke the truth and Pat looked clueless to me.

[quantass]

13. Where can i WATCH/HEAR Rachael dish this out? Keywords?

[Hamlette]

18. she said

as best as I can remember, that she was 19, not that politically aware, she watched the 1992 GOP convention and realized that they did not want her in this country. That came after explaining that the dem convention (can't remember if it was in reaction to Michelle's speech or before it, prolly after) made her feel like they cared about her.

I can't think of any key words that would help you search it, maybe MSNBC commentary after Michelle's speech or write Rachael or MSNBC and ask if they'll send you the clip. She looked right at Pat who was the worst offender at the 92 convention. We have a big, long running debate in my extended family of what that convention meant/did in the long run. I think it solidified the crazies, my mom thinks it cost Bush the election because it was so radical/mean/racist.

[BklynChick]

21. Rachel basically said when she saw the Clintons on the TV, she realized they don't hate her (like

the Repubs) and that made her feel great.

[billyoc]

15. I really want to find a clip of her remarks, I can't find one.

[LynneSin]

19. I am so proud of Rachael and excited she has her own show

I know MSNBC made me cringe enough times last night but I was glad I chose them for my Convention viewing station. Keith was amazing, he could host the nightly news and would be amazing. Tweety was tolerable and a bit respectable to the fact that he was hosting the DNC convention and that we wasn't a repuke screed. I thought Pat Buchanon was a great selection for the 'republican voice' because although I did not agree with him, he didn't come off annoying and overly judgemental like you'd get from Hannity or O'Reilly.

MSNBC is really trying their best to reach out to the progressives. I mean who would have ever though an openly lesbian liberal who worked for Air American would actually get a primetime daily hosting job on a major cable news station? And yet Rachel is exceding our hopes & expectations - I really am going to try and make a point to watch her show more often and support her sponsders too.

[No Elephants]

20. No one ever deserved her own show more. Smart, smart, smart.

[GreenPartyVoter]

24. There are always sourpusses anwyhere you go, including in the Dems. I

have met a few of them myself. However, by and large your statements hold true in my experience. :)