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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:20 PM
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MSNBC live: Guy on megaphone: "9/11 was an inside job"
Chris Matthews is about to lose it. :rofl:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:20 PM
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1. I'd lose it too if I had to listen to such idiocy.
9/11 truthers are about as intelligent as freepers.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:28 PM
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14. What's a truther?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. Truther = '9/11 was an inside job'
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:32 PM
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51. Thanks.
I ask the operatives in the September 9/11 and they gave me a bunch of crap that didn't have anything to do with the question, which seems to be normal for them.

BTY, 9/11 was a combination of LIHOP and MIHOP. Start with the Bush family and Saudi Arabia and the Saudi's running out of oil. Guess who called the secret meeting of the oil executives two months into the bu$h administration.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:40 PM
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23. All Evidence Points To It Being An Inside Job
The guy is right.......:hi:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:42 PM
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24. All evidence...sure.
:eyes:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:53 PM
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29. Yeah
Do you believe that 19 guys with box cutters can hijack 4 airplanes, crash them into buildings
high enough, while all of the jet fuel explodes on the outside, fires not even hot enough to weaken or melt the steel, yet 3 buildings collapse, and one wasnt even hit by an airplane,
and believe that a 757 can do a 180 degree turn flying at over 450mph, and fly around 50ft above the ground with extreme precision, and crash into the Pentagon....
And a plane that crashes into a field in PA, where there is hardly any debris, and all the media
and others make a hero status out of the flight, and keep saying "lets roll", when the guy never said that at all.......
plus, air force interceptors not even competent enough to find these flights?
If you believe all that....then I have a ranch in Crawford Texas I can sell you.....

:hi:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:54 PM
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30. And you believe Bush is smart enough to pull off the most elaborate and well-orchestrated
hoaxes in American History, then I'd like to make some offers on that ranch to you.
I'm not debating this issue with you.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Is Bush himself smart enough? No, probably not...
but were his subordinates smart enough to pull it off? Now that's a different story...
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:03 PM
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34. It Wasnt Bush
He was in Florida at the time, remember his blank stare look, when Card told him about the tragedy

Dick Cheney was the mastermind of all this, as you remember, or I dont know if you know, he was
in charge of what was called "operation northern guardian/vigilance'
The only VP in history to be in charge of a military operation that i know of, correct me if i am wrong.....and i do know my history.

i will debate you any day.....

you must have a reason that you believe otherwise, that so called 'al-kida' or Osama was responsible for this............

like i said, the evidence is overwhelming that this was an inside job......
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #34
77. I still have yet to see compelling evidence in favor of MIHOP.
LIHOP I can believe.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:58 PM
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93. Terrorists From So Called 'Caves'
Could never have pulled this off without help.........
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:00 PM
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97. They've done pretty good for themselves so far.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #97
120. oh yeah
so they all live in batcaves, and come out to terrorize us every once in a while

but we cant find them, because, well, they are in a batcave, and have all of this super duper
equipment, that they use, and they have satellite hookups, and massive computers.......:sarcasm:


Terrorism has been around for centuries, since the dawn of time, you will never stop it, and unfortunately it will continue
There have been small, sometimes medium types of terrorism, that are in certain countries

:hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #77
96. Finding the passport in the rubble? That was just coincidence?
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 06:00 PM by redqueen
Seems more likely it was planted. That would indicate planning.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #96
105. oh man, not you too.
:(
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #105
106. Sorry!
We can still be friends, right?

:(
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #106
155. Of course we can!
I need to be more accepting of the opinions of others.
That's my flaw, not yours.
I respect your opinion.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #105
123. My thoughts exactly...
:o
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #105
126. tell me something
what do you believe happened, why would you believe the Bush admin?

when the facts I layed out are undisputed?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #126
137. What I don't get is all the effort and angst...
To prop up BushCo lies! Unbelievable!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #105
136. A lot of very, very intelligent people... like redqueen...
refuse the official story and know in their heart of hearts and deep in their minds that it is LIHOP at the very least, and possibly MIHOP.

What I don't understand is the need for so many to prop up the lies of BushCo. I understand how Popular Mechanics would fall for such tripe, given they are owned by one of the biggest RW neo-con corporations on Earth, but for professed liberals to call other liberals stupid for NOT believing what the government dishes out, and to do it so vociferously, is beyond my imagination.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #96
124. exactly
And Larry Silverstein saying on tape "pull it"
means they had knowledge of explosives
and how long does it take to plant demolition explosives in a building, at least 24-48hours
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #96
156. yep, heat so intense it incinerated the plane and brought the towers down but that paper passport -
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 08:54 PM by Skip Intro

well, that paper passport made it from inside the plane, through the fires of hell, to survive intact in the rubble, implicating the "guilty." Why is that so hard to believe?

:sarcasm:
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #77
107. And LIHOP isn't bad enough?
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Captain Sensible Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:49 PM
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78. Just because you want something to be true...
...won't make it so. I suggest you read "Popular Mechanics" ( the magazine) report on this.
Besides answer if you can why not one person with any evidence has come forward to get their $100 million book deal for spilling the beans?
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:57 PM
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Popular Mechanics?
Are you serious?

They are owned by right wing Hearst

They had a documentary on the History Channel that i wanted to ring both of the Popular Mechanics fukwads necks, as we were told they were 'experts' compared to conspiracy theorists...now how does that make it look on TV?

Popular Mechanics has lied their a$$es off, everything they pointed to, and or said was what happened, was completely off ...........
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Captain Sensible Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:11 PM
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109. OK....
... so tell me why one of the hundreds of low level stooges who carried out the mundane parts of the plans like planting explosives, flying the dummy planes that were swapped for the real ones or hiding (killing?) the passengers who disappeared have not cashed in on the biggest story in history?
By the way where are all the passengers who were on those flights?
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #109
122. ok
I never said anything about swapped airlners, etc......


on the explosive deal, someone with experience planted explosives in all 3 buildings
demolition teams, CIA operated, they are stealth


But that still has nothing to do with how Popular Mechanics presented everything
and how they lied, and distorted the facts
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. Bush???
He's a puppet. He can't pull off anything.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #30
113. Exactly, case closed.
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #30
154. obviously you've never heard of Bohemian Grove
and the dark truth that Bush is not the boss, but just a puppet show for the masses.

the real decisions are made by mega-rich businessmen who's largess buys their way into power through manipulating the media and markets, gerrymandering and lobbying.

9/11 was a manipulation by the wealthiest of American oligarchy as a means to weaken our Democracy.

There have been similar occurances through out American history. They've always been thwarted by electing particularly gifted leaders who could push back on our behalf....leaders who many times have given their lives.

Will we thwart this new threat?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:05 PM
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37. Don't bother...
They will call you names and say you are stupid... even though THEY are the ones who choose to believe the lying government... or worse still, think they can cherry pick what is lies and what is not in the information that comes from our government.

Sad.

Don't let them call you stupid:)

:hi:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:11 PM
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40. I Know I Am not stupid
I have seen the videos and tons of pics, and belong to pilots for 911truth blog
and they are incredibly smart...
I now my history, I have a friend that was in the top levels of ATC
My uncle was the fire chief of White Plains, and he knows, as he has talked with alot of the brave fire fighters there that survived
I dont believe in the so called conspiracy theory illusion, i deal with facts, and facts only
I know my airplanes, and airlines, I have been in the industry for over 23years


:hi:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:42 PM
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66. My dad was an engineer for McDonnell Douglas and Boeing
Plane guys tend to be very particular about facts. Good for you!

I think a lot of the "conspiracy" junk that is really, really junk, hurts. It causes everyone to be labeled an idiot... FOR NOT BELIEVING THE GOVERNMENT!!! How stupid is that?

The more energy the nay-sayers put into "debunking" the LIHOP or MIHOP theories, the more I believe there is some truth there.

I'm happy to see pilots involved in this!

Carry on!
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #37
74. LIHOP is believable. MIHOP is not, in my eyes.
I have yet to see compelling evidence for it.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:55 PM
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87. My mind is completely open until something definitive shows up
There's just too much coincidental... and too much the Bush administration ignored. I'll not rule anything out until we know a lot more than we do right now. Cheney is just evil enough... and BushCo as a whole has no regard whatsoever for America or her people. I'd put nothing past them. Bush even said this was the new "Pearl Harbor".
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:59 PM
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95. Well IMO..
official story = too many holes to be totally true
LIHOP = very likely, given our lack of defense
MIHOP = a possibility, but with holes like the official story

Guess we might never know. I do not think Bush knew everything - but maybe a little - his look for a short time was one of guilt.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #95
114. Just like Kennedy.
Guess we might as well believe that it was a lone assassin after all!

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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #114
128. JFK
Dont get me started on that either

I have studied that for years

The doctors that were there, said that the neck wound was an entrance wound, so if that is the case, then at least 1shot came from the front, not to include the head shot, which in fact
was on tape, from the front, and slams him back.....so evidence is that 2shots were from the front
which does nullify the Warren Commission report, in which the fired head of the CIA was on that committee, now tell me, why in the hell would you put Allen Dulles on that, when JFK fired him?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #114
133. Come to me, oh magic bullets!
Do my bidding, and remain pristine! Yay magic bullets!

:hug:
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #29
69. You don't need all that for LIHOP
All the Bushie's needed was a hijacking with casualties. Everything else was gravy.

The rest is 9-11 truthie idiocy.


  • hijacking policy at the time was let them have what they want. It was usually a free flight to Cuba.
  • jet fuel soaked the building inside and out. The buildings were a house of cards - one bent piece of steel and the whole damn thing comes crashing down. And yes, gravity goes down, not sideways.
  • Yes, big planes can turn quickly, just not a really good idea. Yes, they can fly 50 feet off the ground with precision. It's called "an approach".
  • Airliners are mostly air and thin metal. If they go straight in, they don't leave much of a footprint.
  • interceptors were never launched - that's LIHOP
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #69
110. At some point LIHOP becomes MIHOP
When you consider there were no interceptors... and BushCo knew there was a plot to fly planes into buildings... the hijacking policy should have changed right then.

I'm not sure about the buildings, but I do know that when controlled demolitions go awry, and the charges don't go off as planned, in a perfectly balance way, the building topples... it does not fall perfectly onto its footprint. Further, there are no other cases of a building falling onto its own footprint, ever, in the history of buildings, without it having been a controlled demolition.

I am at this very moment sitting in a building that burned for far more hours than the WTC burned, and it is obviously still standing.

The inside and outside of the WTC were NOT drenched in jet fuel... it was burned off immediately upon impact, hence the billowing smoke and flames. All that was left burning was the furniture, paperwork, and building materials.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #69
131. Ok
50 feet above the ground flying at 450mph? I dont think so
757's flying at 450mph turning 180 quickly would make one of their wings fall off with all the stress
The planes hit around the 80th floor, and i know everyone noticed the huge fire ball outside the building when it hit, that is called jet fuel on fire!!!, and most of it exploded outside the building.
The building was swaying side ways, and would have toppled from the top floors sideways down from the actual entrance of the planes, leaving the 80th floor down still intact
jet fuel does not burn that hot to melt building metal , that is a complete lie
intercepters were flying 'wargames' with cheney in command that day, that is a fact
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #29
119. And don't forget
That our entire east coast was left defenseless while all our military planes were diverted to Canada for "war games". That was the biggie for me--no intercepts, when those planes planes were off course for half an hour or more.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. Do you really thing Bush and Company could pull that off when..
They were not ever smart enough to plant or just lie about finding WMD in Iraq?
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:07 PM
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38. They were smart enough to pull off...
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 05:09 PM by RichGirl
...a war against a country that did NOT cause 9/11 and were no threat to us!!! They convinced us that there were WMD when there weren't. They are evil.

No point arguing the subject here. Anyone who is interested to go to You Tube and put in 9/11 and you will at least start questioning.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #23
33. Yeah, all the cherry picked evidence. nt
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #33
50. Better than the cherry picked reasoning for believing the government... eom
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #50
100. ...
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 06:01 PM by redqueen
:hi:

:loveya:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #100
130. Hiya sweetie!
We made it! Oh, yes we did! AND... OH YES WE CAN!

:hug:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #23
111. I'm with you. Who had the most to gain? PNAC anyone? That is all.
:hi:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #111
143. Way to make an excellent point, helderheid!
Follow the money/gain!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #23
148. Yes He Is
Parche is right too:hi:
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neoteric lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:21 PM
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2. oh what an ass
someone should take the batteries out of his megaphone and let him scream what he thinks.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
3. I want a Barack Obama planter hat, as seen in the background.
where do I get that?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:36 PM
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19. I saw that, too funny...n/t
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:21 PM
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4. good ole batshit crazy Alex Jones
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:22 PM
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5. It is...
extremely annoying. This is neither the time nor place. Now, next week is much better at the other convention.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #5
17. Really...it would be interesting to see if they show up there
That's where they need to be protesting.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:35 PM
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18. I agree
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 04:37 PM by mvd
It is not crazy to have questions about 9/11. The official story is very full of holes. Believing it word for word sounds like too much trust for me. Now there really might have been a real terror attack, but with LIHOP.

But the Repukes should get the brunt of protest. Bush was in office when it happened.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:13 PM
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42. you are right on
I know why i like you

:woohoo: :hi: :hug:

i layed out everything in my previous posts
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:43 PM
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68. Well put!
:toast:
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:22 PM
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6. Tee hee hee...
Poor Hutchison... They're ruining Matthew's interview.
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:23 PM
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7. Would love to rip it from his hands and hurl it across the street
As it breaks into multiple pieces and then as the nut job "whatdya gonna do about it?"
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:36 PM
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20. You love the First Amendment, don't you?
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:42 PM
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25. He's disturbing the peace, big difference
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 05:00 PM by GrizzlyMan
His 1st ammendment rights were fulfilled the first 200 times he said it. He had his say....now move on down the fucking street and start over again. At the very least he could change it up a little bit. It might make the crowd of Obama supporters hate him less.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:56 PM
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88. lol the first ammendment right lol
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:23 PM
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8. are they disturbing one of the many republicans that are analyzing the democratic convention?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:23 PM
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9. Sounds like the crowd is getting pissed off too
I had to change the channel...just too annoying.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:24 PM
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10. Totally disrupting his interview w/ Kay Moran Hutchinson...
:rofl:
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:24 PM
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11. Oops. Another thread to the dungeon. Someone posted the obvious (now)
in the wrong place. :hi:
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:25 PM
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12. Can we make his chant into a Rap song
with a nice dance beat!
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Gogi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:28 PM
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13. So that's what he's yelling!
Could'nt make it out.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:31 PM
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15. I've heard it said that 9/11 Truthers are basically the liberal version of the normal RW crazies.
I think I heard this on the Daily Show when Jon Stewart was interviewing an author of a book (I forget the title, sorry) that basically says that conspiracy theories and fundamentalism are really popular and there's a reason for it. What was really kick ass about the author was that he actually went undercover for something like 6 months in Hagee's (yes that Hagee) superchurch cult.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:04 PM
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36. That author was Gerald Posner
Who makes his fortune off of being the anti-conspiracy theorist. Two sides of the same coin.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:34 PM
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16. Those people work with the RWers
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 04:37 PM by goodgd_yall
I suspect. They're trying to hook Democrats into taking them seriously. And then, if given credibility by any Dems, the MSM, will connect them with Democratic liberals and note how crazy, unpatriotic, etc. etc. they are.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:39 PM
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22. Anything that makes the MSM squirm is a laugh riot to me..
Tweets was really getting hot under the collar, his interview with KBH was a disaster...:rofl:
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:48 PM
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26. It WAS an inside job...
Some sick fucks parked a 757 full of fuel and people inside of the WTC buildings.

It will likely happen again, but this time it will be a nuke sneaked into the US and touched off.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 04:49 PM
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27. what an idiot.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:00 PM
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32. The 9/11 truth movement is made up of some pretty crazy shady people but
I think they are justified in asking what really happened on that day. There are still many unanswered questions. Does anyone really think that Bush would have been a two term President or have gotten the neo-cons wish to invade Iraq if it wasn't for 9/11?
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:09 PM
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39. who knows how it was done. one thing is certain, buildings cannot fall at the speed of gravity
unless there is nothing holding them up.

Forget all the detailed conspiracy whodunnits and fingers pointing at Bush and others and explain this one piece of irrefutable evidence.

The Laws of Physics were not suspended on 9/11/01.
How did those buildings fall so fast???

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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:12 PM
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41. The steel superstructure failed because it was weakened by intense heat
Where that heat came from, what it means etc. I'll leave up to someone else to figure out.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:25 PM
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47. that doesn't explain how 80+ floors of undamaged structure gave way like they weren't even there
if they had put up any resistance, massive amounts of friction would have been created and the buildings would have fallen much slower than freefall speed.

as it was, the fall took the same amount of time as if the top 20+ floors had fallen through thin air.

something happened to the cores of those buildings. that much is evident. and it wasn't just at the point of plane impact.
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:33 PM
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54. Meh...I think you're over thinking it, but who knows.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:42 PM
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67. it actually the most simple way to look at it. and it's on video.
you see the buildings fall.
you time the fall.
you compare this to how long an object in freefall would take to reach the ground.
you realize that these numbers are nearly identical.
you wonder how this is possible when there were 80 stories of undamaged core below the plane impact.

you come to the conclusion that the explanation given is literally impossible.
you look for another explanation.




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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:35 PM
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57. These confident assertions always amuse me
:rofl:
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:45 PM
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73. do you believe the laws of physics always apply on this planet?
some old English dudes probably laughed at Newton's confident assertions, as well.

that doesn't change the fact that a 100+ story building cannot collapse at freefall speed without serious help in doing so.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:52 PM
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83. Who am I gonna believe
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 06:00 PM by sniffa
someone who took years of classes in structural steel, reinforced concrete, and structural failure (oh, and physics too obviously, as it's a pre-req.), or some guy on the internet who obviously doesn't know what he's talking about?

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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:54 PM
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86. d00d, you're *just* an engineer...
And obviously a government stooge!

:eyes:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:01 PM
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102. I think he's trying to say
that the law of gravity doesn't apply to 80 story buildings. They're the equivalent of parachutes.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:24 PM
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121. nope, the laws always apply
especially to 100+ story buildings.

and as they fall they lose energy to the friction created by pulverizing concrete et al.
as they lose energy, they slow down.
they do not continue to fall at terminal velocity.
yet in the case of the WTC, they did.

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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:01 PM
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101. the laws of gravity are proven.
they can talk all day about structural steel weakening and jet fuel and get into a really complex explanation of why the top began to fall,
but that does not refute the very simple and provable fact that the rest of building collapsed too fast to have occurred unaided.

It's the first question that should have been answered. Yet it has been ignored. Why?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:12 PM
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112. That's what's hilarious about what your saying
The laws of gravity explain what happened. It's strange to read people who obviously don't understand what they claim, to state it so forcefully.

You can keep saying it, but you're still wrong every time.

Did you ever play Jenga? Start there.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:17 PM
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116. Jenga doesn't have a solid steel core
Why was there no slowdown due to loss of force and friction?

you can ignore it all you want, and you will remain ignorant.

It is simple, an object cannot move at freefall speed through another object.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:41 PM
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132. You have no idea what you're talking about
Really.

If a support fails, the object it supports, fails. The objects supported above that object then collapse onto the failed support, which now has to not only support a load it was never intended to support, but also, having lost the continuous line of support necessary to support that much weight over the design length, immediately puts the weight of an object meant to be supported by say a 100' stretch, now having to be supported by a 70' length. At that point, the remaining support will buckle and fail.

Do you believe the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse was an inside job? No amount of engineering can explain what happened there.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 10:45 PM
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157. yes, that's how a building falls
but it would have slowed down as it destroyed the support structure beneath, not to a stop but it would have been discernible.

it would not have fallen at freefall speed, and you know it.

if you can't explain the speed of the fall, then you can't explain anything.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:52 PM
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84. ignorant SHEEPLE here is the turth whatc this VEDIO!!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #84
85. Nice Rick-Roll
:eyes:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:57 PM
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92. aw, i like to show it to truthers and see if it gets under their skin.
:shrug:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:44 PM
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134. No really
why do you think that osama, or al-kida really did this?
or you believe the bush admin?
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:16 PM
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44. Watching the WTC's fall look legit, but WTC 7 is suspicious
It definitely fell at the the speed of gravity and buckled perfectly in the middle first, as a demo team would have done...
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:29 PM
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49. none of those buildings should have fallen at the speed of gravity,
unless the whole building was falling at once.

the force necessary to pulverize all the concrete in those buildings would have created such friction that the falling would have slowed.
it is just not physically possible for freefall speeds to have been reached in the official scenario which we have been presented. yet they were reached.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:35 PM
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56. hmm, could be.. At least looking at them in slow motion
the WTC did look to collapse onto themselves.. But m not ruling anything out, like I said especially after watching WTC 7 fall.. That fell way to perfect, at the speed of gravity in a way that was totally set up on purpose..
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:44 PM
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72. Where is it written that the buildings fell
at "the speed of gravity"? I'm not calling you out. I actually have a learning disability with math, so far be it for me...

but I'm looking at a few web articles on the "speed of gravity" and it looks like one of those arcane laws of physics things about relativity. Not a "things that go boom" law.

MPK
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:51 PM
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81. the buildings tops fell at the same speed they would have if there was nothing underneath them
it is recorded in a multitude of videos capturing the collapse.
all you have to do is measure time and distance traveled to get the speed of the fall.

The only way the tops of these buildings could have fallen this fast is if the bottoms were already falling too.
What made the bottoms fall??

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #81
98. You answered my question witha question.
That doesn't answer my question. How does "the speed of gravity" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_gravity
apply to falling matter on this planet?

MPK
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #98
108. as matter falls on this planet, it accelerates at a constant rate until it reaches freefall speed
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 06:12 PM by LongDistanceRunner
Galileo observed that cannonballs of different weight could be dropped and yet they would hit the ground at the same time.
One might expect the heavier ball to land sooner, but this is not the case because there is a maximum speed at which an object can fall.

This is the speed of gravity, also known as terminal velocity.

So when you consider that the tops of the World Trade Center fell at this freefall speed,
you have to ask yourself, why they did not slow down as they plowed their way through 80+ undamaged floors?

they fell as if they were moving through thin air.
this is only possible if the lower floors were already falling, too. thus providing no resistance.

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:18 PM
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117. Heat is a funny thing.
I'm no engineer, but a ceramics artist. But when things start to melt, everything starts to go really quickly. Anyone who has ever melted a pot at the wrong temperature can tell you that it only takes a few degrees hotter than the firing temp the clay is "supposed" to be fired to for things to go critical and you get a heat disaster.

:shrug:

I'm sure I'm explaining it badly.

MPK
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:33 PM
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127. Heat is definitely unpredictable, and I get what you're saying
but it doesn't answer my question.

Say that extreme heat does explain how the steel was weakened and the top floors began to fall,
it does not explain how they continued to fall at freefall speed as they moved through the lower floors.

Heat from burning jet fuel can explain how the falling started, but not how it continued and ended.

You cannot avoid the fact that the top floors would have slowed as they fell unless the lower floors provided no resistance. In other words, they were already falling. But from what?
There was no burning airplane in the lower floors. There was no Heat to weaken the steel. Or was there??
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #127
138. from heat conduction?
Or so I would guess. And as soon as there was enough tonnage amassed from the heat damaged floors falling, there would have been more momentum to push down with. I dunno.

In my mind's eye I'm looking at a tall ceramic pot that has a lot of glaze and is very thick on the bottom in a kiln. You over fire it and the whole thing is a a puddle in the kiln, even though the kiln only fired 100 degrees over the target temperature. If what you are saying is correct, only the hottest thinnest part on top should be collapsed. Instead, the whole thing goes.

Food for thought anyway.

MPK
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #138
159. when you overfire the pot, heat is applied to the whole surface
but at the WTC, the fire was located in one area not across the entire building

however, you are right if extreme heat had been applied to the entire steel core of the WTC, then it would have puddled taking the building with it.

didn't they find molten steel burning for weeks in the wreckage? hmmm, you may be onto something ;)

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #108
118. Welcome to DU.
:hi:
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:35 PM
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129. thankee!
;)
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:16 PM
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43. Wasn't Cheney...
quoted years ago as saying, "We need a new Pearl Harbor" when someone asked him about getting the country to go along with his ideology?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:02 PM
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103. What, the "catalyzing event" they needed to get their PNAC plans going?
Coincidence, surely!
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:16 PM
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45. I wish somebody would shove that megaphone up his ass
Not that I disagree with the message, but he's not helping his cause or Obama's. He's just fucking up both by making us all look like kooks.
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:17 PM
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46. The cadence is actually kind of catchy. I keep saying it.
9/11 was an in-side job ...
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #46
125. OK, now you made me want to go to MSNBC to hear it. n/t
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:29 PM
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48. Maybe that'll teach them not to have hours of live TV in front of an
unfiltered crowd. Who ever though that was a good idea?
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:34 PM
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55. I knew that this would eventually happen
It actually started off very good. The crowd was very left-leaning and provided a nice backdrop for Dems. Eventually the crazies figure out where they can get their message out though.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:33 PM
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52. Will somebody smash his megaphone?
2nd day in a row he's there, but this time he's up front. He's obnoxious, and like the other truthers, batshit insane. They need help.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:33 PM
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53. why hasn't he been arrested... disturbing the peace , civil disobedience, etc..
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:36 PM
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58. Some one punch him in the head.. My lady Rachel is talking,....
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:36 PM
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59. FOX News will probably refer to that a billion times
It's definitely not helpful. I can't believe it's been allowed to linger this long.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:36 PM
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60. Talking over Rachel and MLK III...
what an asshole. They need to arrest that dipshit.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:37 PM
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61. 9 Uh-leven was an in-side jo-ob!
He's added a nice sing-song quality to it.

:rofl:
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Jobama Biden Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:37 PM
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62. rofl
Now what's he saying?
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:38 PM
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63. That' s what I said above. The cadence is addicting. You can't stop repeating it. :)
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:39 PM
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64. Someone really needs to go beat the shit out of him. Now. nt
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:44 PM
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71. Now now we aren't Republicans...
take his batteries. Now that would be a idea!

Someone needs to explain to the idiot that you lose credibility, maybe that is the plan, by acting like a mindless idiot!
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:47 PM
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76. Can we at least throw the batteries at him? It won't hurt...much. :) nt
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:51 PM
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82. Okay.. or maybe luffa's!!! nt
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:41 PM
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65. It's been the best part of the convention coverage so far.
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 05:41 PM by asdjrocky
Too bad they don't have a sound engineer that knows what he/she is doing. It's not really hard to cancel out background noise.

That, and of course, the McLame freeper lady that rubbed Tweetys head. What is it with these republicans and rubbing peoples heads?
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I-LOVE-MEGAPHONE-GUY Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:44 PM
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70. The Megaphone guy is HILARIOUS!
David Gregory is cringing! I like how the megaphone guy changes his cadence. They put the news crew in front of a green screen to hine the Re-legalize marijuana sign. PRICELESS.
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:56 PM
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89. LOL Love your nick - catchy!
:rofl:

:hi:
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I-LOVE-MEGAPHONE-GUY Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:45 PM
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135. Luke Russert and Will I. Am is an inside job!
Will I. Am: "I am here today to bring awareness and raise money. I am an American and not a celebrity today..."
Luke: "Will the youtube hit translate to votes for Obama?"

Will I. Am: (Pulls out megaphone) "9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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I-LOVE-MEGAPHONE-GUY Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #70
140. Sign behind Olberman says...
9/11 was an inside job!
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I-LOVE-MEGAPHONE-GUY Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #140
147. Sheryl Crow has a Bush Bitton on her lapel?
What does it say?
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latinolatteliberal Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:46 PM
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75. So great to see David Gregory annoyed.
This stuff is hilarious.
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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:49 PM
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79. Why don't people like that realize
that acting like this does not further their cause, it sets it back.

It makes them look as looney as hell.

Especially to the people who would think that anyone who would believe something like that is crazy anyway.

He's not reaching anyone, just pissing them the fuck off.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:59 PM
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94. Is it possible for that cause to be set back anymore?
Dude figures that he has nothing to lose.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:50 PM
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80. I'm with Chris on this one. It's really annoying.
I had to change the channel because it was driving me insane.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:56 PM
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90. For some strange reason
I'm starting to think 9/11 was an inside job.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 05:57 PM
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91. Usual twoofers spouting their nonsenses
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Boxerfan Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:00 PM
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99. I hate that Rachel is being shouted over-STFU & I'm a MIHOP
Like I posted earlier-get some electric razors & get them near his transmittor-BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:02 PM
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104. TAZE HIM, BRO!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:17 PM
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115. I had to turn the channel.
I can't stand it!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:49 PM
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139. Neither the time nor the place. However, regarding 9/11:
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 06:49 PM by LibDemAlways
If the Bush Crime family had nothing to do with it, why were they so determined not to investigate? It was only after the 9/11 families put the squeeze on them that they agreed to a half-ass joke of an inquiry that reached no conclusions and assigned no blame. I hope an Obama admin. would finally be willing to get to the bottom of it and get the truth out. It's way overdue.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:53 PM
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141. Thank you - ABSOLUTELY -
I think Cheney may have had a heads up. I really do. I think Bush's deer in the headlights look was just the opposite of what the radical truthers want you to believe. As far as I'm concerned, it proved he didn't know. But, Cheney? I wouldn't put it past him and I lean, at least to LIHOP.

BUT....a megaphone at a live TV event is over the top. What if this guy starts this outside the stadium? Surely they'd shut him down.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:55 PM
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142. Because most of the hijackers were Saudis
and everybody knows that the Bushes and Saudis are connected.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:59 PM
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144. I agree, not the time and place
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 07:00 PM by goodgd_yall
Besides, the discussion would belong on DU General anyway.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 06:59 PM
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145. Mainly, because of their incompetence at governing
and protecting the citizenry. They failed, and this happened on their watch.

It then became their gift that kept on giving. You can't go to a well continually when you're at fault.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:00 PM
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146. Hey, y'all let's just focus on the Big Day today---
a time to celebrate, not talk conspiracty theories.
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I-LOVE-MEGAPHONE-GUY Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:07 PM
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149. He's baaaack !!!!!!!!!!!!
making a 9/11 speech and holding a sign behind Pat Buchannon!
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:12 PM
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150. You created a screen name just for this one protester?
:eyes:

:rofl:
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I-LOVE-MEGAPHONE-GUY Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:24 PM
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151. You created a screen name for just this one war?
Yes you did !
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I-LOVE-MEGAPHONE-GUY Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:27 PM
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152. Daily Kos says:
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I-LOVE-MEGAPHONE-GUY Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 07:30 PM
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153. Megaphone Guy Just called CSPAN2 Live and he said:
9/11 is an inside job !
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 10:48 PM
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158. Alex Jones. If anyone is really a secret agent provocateur, it's him.
His excessive conduct paints as fools all who question government issue stories of how things happened.
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