Pregnancy Scandal Involving Sarah Palin Daughter? - Post Chronicle

[rndmprsn]

this story is staring to get some traction...

to me its not the pregnancy, this kind of stuff happens...thats life...but, its the potential lies, judgment, cover up and susceptibility to extortion that having this "secret" would bring into the whitehouse.

if this is story is true, then i believe it shows how a panicked john w mccsame made a terrible choice and put this OWN AMBITIONS AHEAD OF THE COUNTRY'S WELL BEING - COUNTRY SECOND.

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212168574.shtml

Bristol Palin pregnancy scandal? Rumors have begun circulating online about whether Governor Sarah Palin is young Trig's, supposedly her 5th child, mother at all...

...The allegations are that Sarah Palin's 16-year-old daughter, Bristol Palin (pictured left) became pregnant, and that Sarah Palin pretended the baby was hers.

Could this be true?

According to comments from classmates and other members of the community, Bristol Palin was out of school during what would have been the last trimester of the governor's pregnany due to a bad case of mono. A case so severe, according to the Palin family, Bristol missed nearly 5 months of school.

To be totally upfront, we have no idea if this story is accurate but online sources say it is so.

So, what is really happening here? Could this be simply a case of a mother who was simply trying to protect the image of her family or was this a deceptive politician using this falsehood to bolster her career and win admiration for claiming the child as her own and choosing not to terminate the pregnancy knowing the child would have Down's Syndrome?

[marylanddem]

1. Good. If the baby is not hers, she's a lying hypocrite.

And using a Downs Syndrome infant to further her own political career and cause her daughter a lifelong sense of shame & secrecy.
This story deserves all the traction it can get.

[Boz]

4. Watch for the other shoe, the baby doesnt have down syndrome.

It only took two days for the media to print the first part, another day on the second.

[elehhhhna]

12. it disgusts me to repeat this but it is rumoured that the baby looks

more like an Inuit than a Down Syndrome child.

God help us -- either we are very twisted , or she is.

[glancingthefuture]

34. WHY MAKE DU look bad by starting/spreading vile rumors when

you have written NOthing to back this up??

[cherokeeprogressive]

42. Yeah, it disgusts you. MMM hmmmm

[Sensitivity]

52. If TRUE we should shutup till she gets the nom and lies again about it

[Ilsa]

57. That explains my first thought when I saw the

baby on tv -- the Downs is either very mild, or the baby is of mixed race, but not having been around Inuits, I didn't quite put it together. This makes more sense. Darn, just when I was going to give in to the rational, "take off that damn tinfoil hat" DUers.

Bristol missed five months of school? Hmmm. Maybe they misheard the doc. He said she was "going to be a mom" and they heard "She is going to have mono."

[DeschutesRiver]

59. Thanks for saying that

I'd been wondering the same thing outloud to dh, who thought people wouldn't do stuff like that. My position is that power is poisonous to some personalities, read your damned history books, and yeah, I'd like to know if this woman is one of them before someone hands her the key to the WH.

Just because some is picked for this or that position, or has held this or that position, doesn't mean they are qualified. Or stable enough. Or smart enough. That is what citizens are supposed to figure out on their own, before they vote.

[mmonk]

2. Time will tell.

[trumad]

3. So did Palin fake looking pregant?

This story is a bit goofy.

[hexola]

5. Thats the part of this that is the hardest to swallow...

Once you really start thinking about someone pulling this off...

[marylanddem]

6. I've only seen one photo where she looked a little pregnant

NONE where she looked really pregnant.

And of course she could have faked it in the "little bit pregnant" photo. Mentally disturbed women do it, and a woman determined to protect her political future could too.

[chatnoir]

19. In my mind this woman IS mentally disturbed.

[totodeinhere]

47. If you are going to say that by definition fundies are "mentally disturbed" then I'm with you. n/t

[rndmprsn]

7. i don't have those answers and do not pretend too, the point is other media are starting to cover...

this, and if indeed its true...and i do not know that, then it is very revealing about mccsame and his VP pick's character.

[hexola]

11. I guess...they're covering "online sources" - not persuing the actual story.

Anyone of us could have written this story - they are reporting on us more than the story.

[rndmprsn]

16. but we didn't..."online sources" might push the media to do some investigating on its own...

then when that happens and if more is uncovered, this becomes a bomb.

when/if KO covers this...then it becomes real.

the point is...the potential cover-up, lies and terrible judgement, but i digress.

[alcibiades_mystery]

28. Speak for yourself...

[RagAss]

15. Was the John Kerry shooting himself for a Purple Heart story true ??

Truth went out of style four years ago with these creeps !!

[muriel_volestrangler]

62. It's not 'other media' - it's a website that reprints wht it finds on other sites

and it thinks it's a smear campaign. I suppose the only surprising thing is that, although the site is clearly right wing - looks at the "Friends of tPC Politics" in the left hand column of its home page- it has bothered printing this. But all it's doing is reprinting what a blog said.

[Boz]

8. No in fact when she announced it publically at 6 months, people that worked with her were shocked

And stated publically that she didn't look pregnant.

[Boz]

14. In addition, the first time she announced it was two weeks AFTER she was mentioned as a VP lister

for the first time. So several scenarios to cover up.

On one hand she has used the baby to show her strong support against abortion.

Two, if it is a cover u for the daughter it may not have been to protect the daughter, but her political career, cant have an unwed teen daughter.

[baldguy]

10. As goofy as saying Obama is a Muslim?

or was a "terrorist" with Bobby Seale in 1968?

[Hepburn]

9. I could not give a shit if her 16 year old had 100 kids w/o being married...

...what does concern me is:

1. Palin is a lying hypocritical POS; and

2. She knows for a FACT that abstinence only does not work, but still supports it.

[Sonicmedusa]

17. Especially #2

As women our decisions should be between us and our doctors. Sarah Palin will work hard to take those choices away from us.

She is an abstinance only supporter, even though the rest of us may not have the luxury of stepping in and raising the grandchildren that will be forced on us as our own.

[DeschutesRiver]

61. If this story about the pregnancy is true

then she chose to use deception to hide what happened to them, rather than admit her policy is a failure in some situations.

A person with good moral character would have just come out and said, okay fine, my child is an example where abstinence didn't work. But we can make it work, maybe talk more, maybe do X,...and so on. Use it as an example, or a talking point or a place for discussions to begin on the subject. Personally, I will still think her ideas of "no choice for women" are hog snot, but understand the situation that came up for her, and not hold that against her, obviously, wouldn't hold it against anyone. What I hold against her, if this plays out, is the deception. That is simply huge to me.

Hiding the evidence of the failure of her stupid ideas, ideas which she wishes to foist on to every American woman, means that she is not fit for even the office she freaking holds. Hypocrital, but worse, since she wishes to impose her belief structure in this regard on our whole country now as a vp candidate. She doesn't want fruitful debate on her positions strengths (?) and obvious weaknesses - she wants to be in a place where she can steamroll the laws and stack the USSC in order to force her beliefs onto others.

[marylanddem]

18. Yes.

[liberal N proud]

13. Make it about the cover up

The fact that they are lying to the world about who's baby that is.

Parents have in the past raised a child of their child similar to what this may be. But it she is telling the world that it is hers, either she is lying or she is psychotic and actually believes that it is. That goes to mental illness and there are documented cases of women taking other mothers babies and claiming them for themselves.

[marylanddem]

20. Agreed.

If true, the real scandal of this is her using the baby to promote her own right-to-life agenda while at the same time implicitly causing her daughter a sense of shame about unwed pregnancy. Shit happens.
Liars lying are reprehensible.

[adamuu]

45. Then, what?

So, you get her to admit the lie about her daughter's baby. That's great. Then, what???

Are you willing to gamble that the effect of exposing her as a liar is greater than the SYMPATHY she will garner when she has an opportunity to publicly explain why she lied? Remember, taking on her daughter's kid plays into the whole anti-choice bullshit. I can hear the public apology speech now. "I thought I was doing the right thing! I was only protecting my family. *sob* *sob* *sob*". Can you predict the public reaction to that? I can't.

Do you see the potential for backfire, here? At least admit the potential, please.

[rndmprsn]

21. wouldn't a 44 yo pregnant women be considered high-risk and not allowed to travel?

my sister who had a child @ 34 was considered higher-risk and she thinks a 44 yo woman would have been even more restricted in he daily activities...@ 8 months pregnant, she should have been on bed rest and certainly not traveling across the country giving speeches etc

[Boz]

23. The commerial airline wouldn't even have let her on the airline with out Dr approval

FAA and liability rules would have precluded it, because a situation could have put others in peril with emergency changes if her situation changed.

[rndmprsn]

26. thats what my sister just said too...

[Tansy_Gold]

36. WRONG. If you'd been reading the many Palin threads you'd know

that Alaska Airlines has no such restrictions.

[Boz]

37. It has to, it is a FAA regulation with ANY major medical condition that could alter the flightplan.

[Patiod]

43. Wouldn't it have to?

Don't Alaskans in remote areas sometimes need to fly to a city with a hospital in order to deliver?

[rndmprsn]

44. i did see that, what is your oppinion on all these coincidental revelations?

now being reported in some print media, on daily kos and huffington...i'm curious?

[remember2000forever]

22. Downs Syndrome Is Usually The Result Of Older Eggs, Not Younger Ones!

[Boz]

24. But not exclusively, and in addition there is now a question of the Down Syndrome

[elehhhhna]

25. what's the question?

inuit?

[Boz]

30. Not one of the typical features of Down Syndrome, several points for Inuit

and thats just one picture.

No upturned eyes, no flat head spaces, regular brain pan size and cross section coordinate nose and eye symmetry, no demonstrated or pronounced solid skull sutures.

Standard Inuit Color, nose flare, occipital orientation and composure, standard Inuit heavy lid on the eyes and so on.

[remember2000forever]

32. So Are You Suggesting That The Daughter Had A Fling With An Eskimo?

Wouldn't that be accepted in Alaska?

[Boz]

33. Absolutely accepted, the problem would have arisen, after Palin said it was hers.

How would you explain Palin giving birth to an Inuit child, her husband has Inuit blood from a grandmother link, but none of those features showed up in previous children.

So now you have Palin saying shes going to be a mom, covering for the daughter, she rushes back when the daughter has the baby to "give birth" Uh oh Inuit, how do we explain that. Well Inuit are mongol related anthropologically, and Down syndrome is "a mongoloidesque" look as a side effect.

Bingo Down Syndrome.

Just as an aside she didn't announce that the baby was down syndrome afflicted until after the birth even though she had only told the public she was pregnant a month before she "gave birth". Even though today she champions that they had the baby tested and knew and could not terminate because of her strong beliefs.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

53. Babies may have some or all of the syndrome, & with varying severity

[WeDidIt]

48. Okay, I'm starting to have my doubts here

I thought this story was bullshit from the get go.

I now have a doubt about whether or not Sarah Palin's story is true.

[Mortos]

40. Actually the majority of Down Syndrome children are born to mothers under 30

My best friend's brother in high school fathered a Downs Syndrome baby with his 16 year old girlfriend.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

50. The children w/DS that I work with mostly have young parents - I can't quote you statistics but

this is what I have been seeing in recent years. I'm thinking it might be environmental. There is a known cluster of babies born with Down Syndrome in Ireland to young women who attended a girls school. There was a nearby fire at a nuclear power plant that is being investigated as being a possible source of this cluster. There are a couple of other cluster births of Down that I've heard of: one in New Mexico and one in Russia.

[elehhhhna]

63. Interesting, my OB says that womwn of Irish decent (me for ex.,)

are at a higher risk for babies w/ neural tube defects. Have you heard that, as well?

[JBoy]

27. Sad to say, but even if this whole story is BS, it;s too juicy to go away.

It's the kind of thing Nancy Grace dreams about at night.

[ecstatic]

29. You know for sure that it is just BS? nt

[JBoy]

31. I have no idea. That's why I said "even if" it's BS.

[Motown_Johnny]

35. she missed 5 months of school at exactly the same time she would have looked pregnant?

Five Months?? for Mono???


I am no doctor but that seems strange to me

[yourguide]

38. Not to be a downer on this

but is this publication even real?

[NorthCarolina]

39. Seems that there is plenty of material to go after her on her record and experience

whereas something like this baby gate could come back to bite Dems in the ass.

[tblue37]

41. And--if it is true--making sure the baby would be covered by

the parents' insurance for all his medical needs--and since he has Down Syndrome, those expenses will inevitably add up. If this turns out to be true (and we should always qualify it if we have no proof, no matter how fishy their stories about the pregnacny and birth seem to be), then the Palins would also be guilty of insurance fraud, and that is no small matter.

On the other hand, keeping such a switch secret when so many people would have to keep their mouths shut would be very, very difficult. (This was not a home birth, but a potentially high risk hospital birth).

I think that there are certainly lies involved, but as another DU poster said yesterday, it may be no more than lies about her water breaking and then her toughing it out, giving a speech, and taking an 11-hour flight home to give birth, presented just to shore up her image with Alaskans as a tough frontier woman.

[Medusa]

46. There's also the question of how she even became preggers at 43

the chance in the real world w/o fertility treatments is less than 3%.

[Ilsa]

58. And if she knew it was unlikely, she may not

have used protection. It does happen, even at 43. But I am not convinced that thia is Sarah Palin's baby.

[Dreamer Tatum]

49. Um, the Post Chronicle?

Can you tell me anything about the Post Chronicle?

It looks like an Internet "news" aggregator.

Stop trying to make this appear to be news. It's baseless wanking.

[ruggerson]

51. why did you deliberately omit this from the end of the article?

"Or could this just be a smear campaign? Gut feeling: Smear campaign"

[Kber]

54. Well, IF she lied, she did it to protect her daughter

and she's raising the child so her daughter can finish school and have a shot at a decent life. Not the first time a grandmother has stepped in to make her daughter and grandchild's life a little easier.

And who would it hurt, really?

I think I'm going to move on.

So what's with her sister Molly and her divorce / custody battle? What would be an example of an inappropriate use of power, in Sarah's opinion?

Why won't her mother in law vote for her?

How much say will the "first dude" have in her decisions? I assume he's quitting his job to become a full time parent, like Michelle did when Obama hit the trail, but I haven't heard, so are their kids being raised by a parent or a nanny?

What, exactly, did she do to put her town 20M in debt and what would be her motivation to lower oil prices when Alaskians are getting $3300 per person back in windfall profit taxes. And why don't all us us get a piece of that action - or are windfall profit taxes only a good idea up north?

How does she feel about the civil war /genocide in Darfur? Where does that sit with her pro-life stand or does the right to protection end at birth? IS she pro-death penalty?

If global warming is bullshit, why is Alaska's permafrost melting. And what's going to happen to Alaska if she's wrong? Any backup plan besides prayer?

Speaking of prayer, where does she stand on the separation of church and state? Does she support teacher led prayer in public schools? Does she support public money for private school vouchers? Should the teaching of craationism be allowed, or be mandidory?

I'd go on, but I've got to get ready for a labor day party.

See y'all later.

[Quixote1818]

64. Protect he daughter by keeping her out of school for six months?

More like protecting the family name and her political stances about pre-marital sex. If true it would the the height of hypocrisy.

Thomas Jefferson once said: "We should never be afraid of the truth". Living a lie does nothing but put the whole family in jeopardy of ridicule and scandal if found out and the fact is it's simply a lie. The real mother should be known as the real mother.

[No Elephants]

55. Why does everyone talk about protecting her daugher? What if the daughter wanted to acknowledge her

own baby or have an abortion and it was Sarah who could not live with either of those alternatives. And why is making your child live a lie "protecting" her?

People are nuts.

[Ernesto-Che-Guevara]

56. What is the Post-Chronicle?

Never heard of that newspaper before. Is it even a newspaper?

[kikiek]

60. Hard to believe the doctors involved would be lying. She stopped

mid flight when in labor to be checked one article says. Her mother in law talks about the pregnancy. Seems like a lot of people would have to be lying with her. I still believe what you say about McCain to be true irregardless. What we know about her to be true is enough.

[rndmprsn]

65. just to remind...its not about the daughter or baby...

its about the lying, cover-up, possible extortion in the WH and horrible judgment.

get it?