Realize that Karl Rove is an idiot,

[ProSense]

not a political genius.

Rove Admits Calling Biden A ‘Doofus’ But Refuses To Apologize

Last night on Fox News, host Alan Colmes confronted former White House aide Karl Rove for attacking Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) as a “big blowhard doofus.”

Rove said he thought he was in an “off-the-record setting” but admitted to calling Biden a doofus because “he’s overrated.” However, Rove then backtracked and said he criticized Biden only because of his Iraq plan (the original report of the attack makes no mention of Rove talking about Biden’s Iraq plan). Rove then apologized — not for calling Biden a “doofus” — but for “disagreeing with his plan.” “Hey don’t take his bait, I’ll say it, I think you were right,” protested co-host Sean Hannity.

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Yesterday's comment was a sign that things aren't working out for Turdblossom. The GOP Convention sucks and McCain made the worst VP pick in history.


All his achievements are the result of corruption and theft. Without the ability to operate outside the law, he's just another stupid Republican asshole.

[backscatter712]

1. Karl Rove's sole advantage is his cheating!

He's good at finding new and innovative ways at cheating. Caging lists, Diebolding, vote suppression, lying, smearing, distortion.

If he was held to the rules and to normal people's standards of civility, Rove would be totally lost.

[Cha]

9. Someone should ask karl rove if his

boywonder, bush, was "overrated"..and then he and hannity can have a good gufaw about that.

[DrDan]

2. beat the pant off us the past two elections . . . what does that

say about our campaign leaders . . .

[mediaman007]

3. That we actually think that ideas mean something?

[DrDan]

6. just saying he out-campaigned us the last two presidential elections

not saying anything about the high-road on ideas and issues.

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. How did the genius campaigner lose by 500,000 votes to Gore the Bore?

Because previous people had stacked a very unethical Supreme Court, that's how.

We beat the pants off Karl Rove in 2006, so badly, in fact, that he "resigned" as a result. The "genius" of Karl Rove. Puh-fuckin'-leez. A genius would have made Republican victories bulletproof and sustainable. Rove is like any flash in the pan: successful at something new for a short while, then utterly obsolete. He's Morton Downey, not Oprah.

[DrDan]

14. the stakes were different in 2006

he got his admin in there for 8 years - got the court stacked. He did his job - and did it better than the Dems.

To deny that will simply lead to a it happening again.

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. Oh, yeah, sure

When he wins, he's a genius; when he gets his ass soundly thrashed, it's because it didn't matter.

Gimme a break.

[DrDan]

16. fact is - he beat us in 2000 and 2004

best to deal in reality - whether you like him or not.

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. And we beat him in 2006, which is to say, more recently

and with a new team at the DNC.

So, deal with reality. By all means. Current reality tends to trump outdated reality, however.

[DrDan]

32. and exactly what did we win?

can you honestly tell me that our win in 2006 is anywhere near their wins of 2000 or 2004?

[ProSense]

43. We won

Obama. Do you honestly believe that had the Roadblock Republicans won a Congressional majority, Democrats would have had the upper hand in this election?

The 2006 gains also put Democrats in a better position to have a the most significant Congressional majority in at least 15 years. Do you see how that strengthens Obama's hand as the next President?

[alcibiades_mystery]

47. We beat Rove soundly in 2006

Stop moving the goalposts.

[ProSense]

18. You can't have it both ways.

The OP stated that Rove's achievements are the result of his law breaking activities.

You chimed in that he "beat the pants off of us the past two elections." You then claim he "out-campaigned us," but agreed that didn't do it legally.

That's not "out campaigning," that's engaging in criminal activity.

Rove has nothing to do with Bush remaining in office for two full terms. That's a function of a failed system. In fact, if the system worked, Bush would have been impeached and Rove would be behind bars, where he belongs.

[DrDan]

21. well - you can take the high road.

But as rove demonstrated in 2000 and 2004 - it will not necessarily win you an election.

It might - but it also might not.

And to make it a matter of rhetoric does no one any good.

[ProSense]

22. "But as rove demonstrated in 2000 and 2004 - it will not necessarily win you an election."

And is that a good thing?

Anyone can win if they engage is massive election fraud, that doesn't require genius. It requires no more genius than robbing a bank. One just has to plan for it. Stealing is not clever.

If you want to refer to being against breaking the law as "taking the high road," be my guest.

[DrDan]

24. who said it was a good thing?

I hate it as much as you do.

But we need to recognize that elections can be won honestly, or in rove-fashion. He had to be close to make the under-the-table efforts work. And he was.

We need to be as smart as he is (whoever "he" is for upcoming elections) - and be prepared.

We weren't in 2000 and in 2004.

And the country lost. A lot of rich people got richer - and had the trail blazed for continued riches.

A lot of zealots made headway - and our expense.

[ProSense]

27. "We need to be as smart as he is (whoever "he" is for upcoming elections) - and be prepared."

Not a good thing? You're throwing around the words "win" (stole the election), "out-campaigned" (stole the election) and "know-how" (theft).

We need to be prepared for everything, but unlike you, I would never claim that Rove's actions in stealing two elections were "smart."

I'm holding out hope (and I realize it may never happen) that his ass winds up in jail.

[ProSense]

7. Wrong

Republcans stole two elections (See FLA 2000 SCOTUS selection and the attorney scandal.

The last election (2006), Dems kicked the GOP's ass.


Like I said, Rove is a crook, not a genius.

[DrDan]

8. did not say he did it legally . . .

but his candidate has occupied the WH for the past 8 years as we watched from the sideline

[Cha]

10. Exactly..just because rove got his puppet in the white house

in collaberation with the corporatemediawhore$, the rw 5 and stolen elections does not make him a genius. It makes him what he is..more crooked than nixon whose blowback is so to the extreme it is now being highlighted.. how actually stupid he is.

[Growler]

11. Anyone can beat the pants off someone...

if the media is totally in their pocket. Rove ain't a genius, he was just in position to tell the media what the talking points were. He's no longer in that position, so revealed as the chump he is.

Don't talk about winning elections in 2000 and 2008, when they were blatantly stolen!!

[DrDan]

12. well - enjoy the denial

fact is - a repub has been in the WH for the past 8 years - and one that is pretty much an idiot and failure at everything he has attempted his entire life.

Chump or not - crooked or not - he has kept his man there.

[Growler]

19. And he did all of it with the Media actively against him!!

NOT.

[DrDan]

20. I agree.

but he knew what he needed to do to win those elections.

He knew how to build a base. He knew he needed the media. He knew he might need a little help under the table. He knew he had to have the right group of puppets to run.

He latched on the limbaugh. He latched on to the religious right, the NASCAR crowd, the "patriots", the wealthy, few "operatives".

He has been seriously studying elections for many years. He is very close to a Ph.D. in some related topic. He knew the prior elections well enough to know which one to model from.

An architect.

Honest? Ethical? A guy you want to have a beer with or to marry your sister?

Nope - but he can win an election.

[ProSense]

23. And

still tampered with the machines and disenfranchised voters.

Do you know that the reports concluded that more than 350,000 black voters were kept from the polls in Ohio (more than three times the number of votes Bush won by)?

Why did the GOP have to resort to mere disenfranching voters when Rove had so much so-called know-how and the media in his pocket?

Face it, theft is theft. Rove is a criminal, not a genius.

[DrDan]

26. well - what ever you want to call it - he beat us in the past

2 presidential elections.

Regardless of the tactics used - kkkarl rove beat us.

And the country lost.

[Danger Mouse]

29. it says that Rove is good at being a lying dirty crook. what, you want we should emulate him?

[DrDan]

33. never said that

but - don't you think we should prepare ourselves for those type tactics?

There will continue to be dirty tricks, and illegal activities. To deny they will occur will simply lead to more bushes in the WH.

[Danger Mouse]

36. of course we have to be ready for it. but it still doesn't make rove anything more than a filthy

crook.

[DrDan]

39. call him whatever you like - but he beat us in the last two

presidential elections. Elections that mattered.

[Danger Mouse]

40. so? what the hell are you trying to prove?

[DrDan]

41. not trying to prove a darned thing

just replying to these posts.

What are you trying to prove?

[Danger Mouse]

42. i don't like to give scumbag credit for anything other than being a slimy crook.

one of his many crimes was helping to steal two elections.
that's the nicest i'll say about him.

[DrDan]

44. "slimy crook"? - probably none bigger

[DrDan]

46. I don't think I ever defended him as an honest, ethical person

but - I do believe he is a student of elections. I believe he knows how to win elections. I think he knows the U.S. population, how we vote, how to garner enough gullible voters (nascar crowd, evangelical right, the "super-patriot") to win an election, and how to structure a simple, yet effective slogan so as not to complicate an issue with the facts.

[LSK]

34. HE STOLE THOSE ELECTIONS

Did not beat the pants off us. Both came down to one swing state where there was major fraud going on.

[DrDan]

35. he beat us - did he not?

I never said he was honest or ethical about it.

He was prepared for a close election - and he beat us - even though we probably had more votes in both cases.

Just facing reality.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. "Big Blowhard Doofus"

That reminds me of one of the best lines from Harvey Fierstein's Torch Song Trilogy.

Two men have adopted a gay teenager and the kid comes home one day, beat up. When asked why he was fighting, the kid responds, "He called me a douchebag . . . " to which his "father", Harvey Fierstein says, "Douchebag! How Fifties!"

[Cha]

5. Obama and Biden are running a high class campaign and

karl rove is left sucking his thumb and slinging the spew that emanates from the bowels of his toxic being.

[Thrill]

17. The plan is to piss Biden off, so he will say something controversial

[Oak2004]

25. You are entirely correct

I'm ex-CR. I know how the Republican Party works. Rove and the Republicans are not political "geniuses". In fact, they can be pretty sloppy. They have won because they are ruthless and because Democrats have been over the years less-than-stellar at the fundamentals of campaigning and party organization.

This last part is starting to change.

Rove and company are very defeatable. It makes zero sense to treat them as geniuses, unless your goal is to demoralize yourself.

[Overseas]

28. I think he's neither genius nor total idiot. But he is definitely cruel.

And ethically bankrupt. The ends justify the means.

He has the cleverness of some other ruthless unethical people-- they will violate all kinds of humanitarian practices or common ethical principles to achieve their ends. We don't expect such wanton destructiveness in the area of governing the country we all profess to love, so he catches us off guard and we think he's extra smart. No, just extra wanton. Cruder and crueler. Ethical standards be damned.

[bigpenguin]

31. Seriously?

"Turd Blossom" called Biden a "doofus"?

Are they campaigning for POTUS or for 5th grade student council?

[vegansrule]

37. I wager that Karl Rove hasn't had sex in 35 years....N/T

[underpants]

38. There is no "genius" in lying and cheating

and having a willing press cover your work of fiction in creating W.

[rufus dog]

45. He is a genius because -

He has no soul, no moral compass. It works well with the Republican party. The amazing part is that "religious" people respect him.