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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:39 PM
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Hey DU? You want to be cheered up? Read this Bob Beckel column
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 01:43 PM by scheming daemons
Highlights:

• In Ohio (which John Kerry lost by only 120,000 votes in 2004), 750,000 eligible voters between 18 and 22 who could not vote in 2004 can vote in 2008.

• In Colorado (Kerry lost by 99,000) 293,000 between 18 and 22 have become eligible to vote in 2008.

• In New Mexico (Kerry lost by 6000 votes) 145,000 kids have reached voting age.

• In Michigan 690,000 have become eligible.

• In Virginia 465,000 (Kerry lost by 260,000).

• In Florida alone over 1 million young people have reached voting age since 2004.

• In Colorado there are 110000 eligible black voters. Only 50,000 voted in 2004.

• In Ohio there are 860,000 eligible black voters. Only 380,000 voted in 2004. (Remember Kerry lost by only 120,000 votes).

• In Virginia, 945,000 eligible black voters, 465,000 voted in 2004.

• Florida; 1,750,000 eligible blacks, 770,000 voted in 2004.




http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/palin_doesnt_matter_numbers_do.html



The Sarah Palin "boom" that has so traumatized Democrats and intimidated the press will have little if any impact on the presidential election. People don't vote for vice presidents, they vote for presidents. This race is about John McCain and Barack Obama not Annie Oakley from Wasilla, Alaska. It is also about turnout numbers and the electoral demographics in 2008 which overwhelm any impact Sarah Palin might have on the election outcome.

First the Palin "boom". It is the product of surprise (a short lived but powerful force in politics), an emotional outlet for the GOP Right, and post convention polls. In the intense coverage of politics by the ever expanding number of outlets for political information, what is new and surprising quickly becomes over exposed resulting in a short shelf life. The freshness goes away quickly. So it will be shortly for Ms. Palin. She has had the best week in this campaign she will have and the only direction now is down.

The large turnouts at McCain/Palin events this week are a result of an energized Right (which will vote Republican anyway) and say as much about the lack of enthusiasm on the Right for McCain before he picked Palin as it does about any shift in the electorate. As for post convention polls; they are the least predictive of the eventual outcome as any polls in a presidential election. Of course there was a "bounce" after 3 days of what amounted to an infomercial for McCain and a negative ad campaign against Obama. It will not last.

Despite the best efforts of the McCain campaign to control press access to Palin, they can hold back the press tide only so long. It is simply too big and prolific. McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis said on Fox News Sunday they will continue to limit press access until the media shows some "deference" to Palin. Deference is for dictators and monarchs not for junior governors of sparsely populated states like Alaska who expect to be second in line to the leader of the world's oldest Democracy.

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MUCH MUCH more at the link.

Great column.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:48 PM
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1. kick
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:11 PM
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14. Thanks! Good Read!


I appreciate it. :-)
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:51 PM
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2. Thank you for taking the time to post this
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 01:53 PM by PlanetBev
It was very encouraging, indeed.

Also, I think we have a better chance of getting the youngins' out this year. Obama is very inspirational to young people, not so sure that Gore and Kerry floated their boat.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:03 PM
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3. You're welcome
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:13 PM
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4. Glorious!
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:21 PM
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5. I've shared this wonderful article with many other sites. It's a must read. nt
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:26 PM
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6. Oh thank you, thank you! We're registered many, many voters here in KC, MO.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:29 PM
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7. YES! The voice of Reason, amidst all the Nervous Nellys! K & R.
:kick:

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, s d. :thumbsup:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:53 PM
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8. Don't mean to pee in anybody's Wheaties but...
That scenario only works if those young / black people actually vote.

I'm actually optimistic that enough of them will - just pointing out the obvious fallacy in the assumption that numbers alone will win it.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:02 AM
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10. People who vote in the primaries almost ALWAYS vote in the general....

Think about it.... who takes the time to vote in the preliminary round and then SKIPS the championship?


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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:48 AM
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13. Uh yeah. But the numbers in this article mention nothing about primary voters
Just eligible voters.

They still have to get off their asses, register to vote, and then actually vote.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:59 AM
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9. how many potential new voters are offset by . . .
those the Repugs are preventing from voting in states like Ohio, Florida, and who-knows-where-else . . .
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:09 AM
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11. A "thinking" thread...refreshing.
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 07:12 AM
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12. being eligible to vote ... voting ... and having your vote actually count are
three entirely different things.

and suppressing turnout, as well as monkeying with returns, is key to republican victory in november.

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:20 PM
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15. ...and those votes are being purged by McCain campaign "mistakes" and we hear NOTHING from Obama
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