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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:31 PM
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I want Sarah Palin demolished, but please do it RIGHT
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 06:42 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
I hesitate to post this because nerves are pretty raw in here, and I don't like the "thanks for your concern" replies any more than anyone else. But this is useful information to anyone who wants to go after her on the firmest possible ground, rather than playing right into the RW stage-managed "liberals are so unfair to Sarah" narrative.

Her total blank when asked about the Bush Doctorine was the right element of the ABC interview to push.

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We already know tomorrow's RW all-day pity talking point and, unfortunately, this time they will be right. It is very dangerous to ever allow them to be right. We have to win every news cycle disagreement over interpretation so it doesn't become "both sides do it."

Obama did not say Palin is a pig, so he won that round.

Sarah Palin did not say the Iraq War is a task from God, so she will win that round. (Guarantee you, the RW fax machines will be running all night pumping outrage over how sexist liberal Charlie Gibson twisted the poor defenseless lady's words.)

I first saw the tape a week ago, understood what she was saying, and thought immediately of Lincoln's famous line that we shouldn't pray for God to be on our side, but to pray that we are on God's side. That's the sentiment being expressed, though Palin is not the word-smith Lincoln was.

No phrase can be analyzed when pulled out of the sentence containing it. The sentence is an exhortation to prayer, and the unspoken "pray" precedes the second clause.

Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right also for this country, (pray) that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.

The word "that" indicates that the clause is following the original verb "Pray." That is not a favorable interpretation, it is the English language. There is not other way to parse the sentence.

When someone is a walking disaster area, don't go after her on the one thing where the media will have no choice but to vindicate her.

In conversation with friends and neighbors, go for it. She said the Iraq War is a task from God. But expressing that in anything high-profile enough to be part of tomorrow's media rhubard about what she meant will be refuted to her benefit.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:32 PM
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1. Thanks for your concern.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:37 PM
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2. You are ever so welcome!
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:39 PM
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3. You are one of the BEST. Can't dissagree with the sentiment
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:43 PM
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4. If her statements need to be diagrammed to extract meaning..
...then she's either deliberately mincing words, or is just an inarticulate jack-ass.

The fact that she is bringing 'tasks from god' into the conversation is disturbing on so many levels, regardless of how one attempts to interpret her blather. The point I would make is not sourced in the specific meaning or intent of her words, but the implications of her words and what they say about having this medieval fantasy-worlder in a position to assume the office of president of the US.

Ding-cuckoo!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:44 PM
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5. You're right as rain on this one
It does no good to attack her on what we want to hear, especially on a subject that many residents of Dumbasfuckistan will rally to anyway, given the chance.

Swing for the fences but not so hard you knock yourself out. Still, it sounds like there may be some productive paths for destruction of the extremist, ignorance.

The Constitution says she's qualified but she sure as hell isn't capable or knowledgeable. It sounds like Maddow would have sent her home crying.


Take them down!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:45 PM
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6. You leave out her demeanor, which was "get me the hell out here" scared shitless
with lil ole Charlie Gibson, fer chrissakes. That's the most damaging takeaway from the whole thing, IMHO.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:48 PM
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7. Righto. And toward that end...
Don't fall for the e-mail going around about her - it's called out on factcheck.org:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

We DON'T need to hand the Rethugs ANY wins. And if we slam Caribou Barbie falsely - hoo boy.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:51 PM
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8. To make any sense of this one has to assume that God plans wars - gimme a break!
She makes a big deal that her son joining the army was a great decision, so one must assume that the war has checked out with her and it is indeed 'God's plan.' Otherwise she wouldn't be for it and insist on 'victory.'
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:59 PM
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9. Sorry but God is NEVER on the side of pre-emptive war.. or any war for that matter.
George W. Bush and those who helped him with "shock and awe" will have to answer to God for their crimes. Impeachment means nothing because they will all suffer a much more severe punishment after this life.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:21 PM
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10. Agree.
The thing is, the right claims that we are trying to demolish her, what we're really trying to do is find out about her, and if she is what we suspect she is, then demolish her. 15 days ago she was a nobody on the scene, now we have to find everything as quickly as possible and that leads to some speculative conclusions. That we have to try so hard tells you what you need to know about her qualifications.

Still, I find it especially amusing how liberals try so hard to be scrupulous one day after lipstick gate.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:26 PM
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12. There's a double standard, but that's what it is
We have to be PERFECT. It's not fair, but it's the rules of the game we have no choice but to play.

The media is onto hwta appalling liars McCain and Palin are, and are itching for a chance to go back to the smug "both sides do it" they use to excuse the RW.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 07:24 PM
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11. She is clueless
She said that Georgia and the Ukraine should definitely joint NATO. Gibson said you do realize that means that we would have to go to war with Russia if Russia attacks them, and she said yes. Can you say the cold war is back?
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