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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:05 AM
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Obama must be one badass dude....
He turned two extremely popular, extremely powerful Washington insiders into a couple of Sybils. I mean, remember all the contortions Hillary went through to "find her voice"? Remember her "Meet me in Ohio" stunt? Obama has had the same effect on McCain and turned him into a lunatic of erraticness and impredictability. The usual political stunts, games, and "rules of the road" as laid down in the last 30 years just don't seem to work anymore.

I think Obama has armed himself with a few things:

Core sense of the truth
Common purpose and vision
Unflagging steadyness
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:06 AM
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1. That is the kind of Change I am talking about.
For starters.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:06 AM
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2. The first part of your OP is not helpful
Just sayin'
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:07 AM
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4. The title or the text?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:08 AM
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The text
I see no need to mention Sen. Clinton or the primaries.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:15 AM
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11. Actually that's the whole point of my argument....
It has nothing to do with Clinton specifically but rather the effect he has on his opponents. He takes them so totally of their game you can't even recognize them anymore.
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Balderdash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:43 AM
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20. Maybe you should use someone else besides Hillary
as an example. I understand what you're saying but Hillary's voice finding thing had nothing to do with Obama, it was how she related to voters. In the primaries I was for Obama in the beginning until I saw Hillary the policy wonk at every debate, she was by far the most up to speed on policy.

Anyway, as you can see your main issue is getting lost in the hubbub.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:22 AM
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21. No, she distinctly tried several different iterations of herself to see
what would bring Obama down. She looked off balance. The same sort of panicky behavior is what Obama checkmated McCain into.

The reason I can't use another example other than Hillary is because she and McCain are the cases in point.
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:58 PM
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26. I was thinking the same thing this morning
He seems to let his opponents tie their own rope. He waits for the perfect moment to engage. Clinton's own worst enemy was herself. Same thing with McCain. Obama just waits until there's enough slack to yank the shit out of them. It's a different kind of political chess game this guy plays. He waits... Remember when everyone was screaming two weeks ago he needs to do this and he needs to do that? PALIN PALIN PALIN. Nope. Instead of pouncing, he stalked. He waited for Palin to choke and McCain to crack.

I'm starting to wonder if tonight is the night that he delivers the final blow. I kind of hope it isn't because I love watching this guy operate.
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DarleenMB Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:25 AM
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15. gotta agree
As a very strong Hillary supporter who now supports Obama, I was insulted.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:34 AM
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18. Really? I meant no disrespect to Hillary specifically. I think he would
have done that to anybody.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:07 AM
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3. ...not to mention intelligence and integrity.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:13 AM
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And his humanity. Quite a list, really!
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garymeeg Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:08 AM
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5. He seems really stable
Yep, he's really stable and that's becoming more and more important in this election. Well handled indeed.
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Every Man A King Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:08 AM
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6. Meet me in Mississippi Senator Mccain!!! nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:11 AM
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7. He's what some may quip, "One cool cucumber" and in these times, what this country needs.
Steady, intelligent and thoughtful LEADERSHIP. ;)

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:11 AM
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8. It's a post Katrina, post Iraq Civil War we live in now....many aren't buying what establisment pols
are selling and aren't trusting corpmedia much, either.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:13 AM
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9. And I don't see how, with what he's armed with, he can lose
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:40 AM
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19. Obama doesn't believe that elections have been stolen by computer.
It's in his book. He doesn't think there's a problem with computerized voting machines. He's about to be schooled. The republicans are going to steal their way to at least a 49.5 percen of the vote come election day, is my prediction. There are going to be another couple of "glitches" in some of the swing states.

Until the election system in this country is made secure, we're NEVER going to get our government straightened out.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:38 PM
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22. THAT concerns me greatly. Because it's the bottom line.
Anything can happen-- right up until the election. Then we have to go by the numbers. And I don't trust those numbers.

I wonder if the tampering with the vote in 2004 was a bush thing or a repug thing. If the former, maybe it won't be implemented this time????

That's the only thing (aside from one other) that really concerns me.
:dilemma:
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:13 AM
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10. It's what the whole 'no drama!" commitment was about since the beginning
There have been so many times when Obama could've attacked McCain hard, and instead, he just remained cool and steady.

Everyone's been criticizing him for it, but it's a long term strategy that is now paying big dividends, as people see McCain practicing one style of campaigning -- negative, stunt-filled, self-focused -- while Obama remains calm and measured, in control of himself, his campaign, and by extension, the country itself.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:33 AM
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17. and when they do fire one..
it is effortless. The timing is impeccable and the results are devastating.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:17 AM
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12. He doesn't fall into their traps.
They set them, and he sidesteps the trap and changes the dynamic. They are left wondering what happened.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:43 PM
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23. Smart. Very smart!
:)
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:19 AM
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13. IMO he's Lincolnesque. He didn't announce his candidacy on the steps of the old State Capitol
in Springfield, Land of Lincoln, for no reason. In some of his most dramatic speeches when things weren't going so well during the primaries, he took his listenrs back to that cold day in Springfield and talked about what it meant to him.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:20 AM
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14. The truth is setting us free.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:27 AM
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16. Obama is no pushover, the GOP finally realise!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:49 PM
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24. Obama is
one badass dude!



Sorry to screw up the screen.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:51 PM
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25. Obama's Wallet
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:30 AM
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28. ...shut your mouth!
(sigh) I just showed my age with that pop culture reference. :)
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:59 PM
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27. Obama displays well-controlled moral outrage.
He is unwilling to remain silent when people lia about his record. He is willing to stand up and fight. This, finally, is the candidate I have been waiting for.

Look here to find out why: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Laelth/12

:dem:

-Laelth
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