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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:04 PM
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For the youngsters, McCain will not give the most senile Debate performance ever. That was in 1984
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 06:11 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
You've all seen Ronnie Reagan's quip about 'my opponent's youth and inexperience,' from the second Reagan/Mondale debate.

What you might not know is WHY he made that quip.

In the first debate Reagan went full on senile. He completely lost his shit. Not only could he not seem to understand the questions, but he got distracted during his closing statement and started free associating. He started rambling about driving down the Pacific Coast Highway until the moderator made him stop.

Yes, they had to cut him off during his closing statement.

So all the talk between the two debates was about whether Reagan had alzheimer's. That's why he needed that "zinger" to open the second debate.

McCain will be hard pressed to top the Gipper's big melt-down. He can do it, but unless his pants end up around his ankles or something it's an uphill climb.

(Admiral Stockdale asking for a question to be repeated because he had turned off his hearing-aid was a noteworthy moment, but that was in a VP debate.)
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:06 PM
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1. Had there not been a 2nd debate, Mondale would've won.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:07 PM
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2. Really? I never heard about that. I would love to see footage. -nt-
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:11 PM
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5. delete
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 06:17 PM by WIllo
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:18 PM
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7. ---
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 06:20 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:28 PM
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8. I thought I had found a link to the debate
and posted it before checking thoroughly.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:07 PM
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3. Good call.
Nominated.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:08 PM
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4. There's a famous neuropsychiatrist who diagnosed him w/ early
dementia at that debate.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:14 PM
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6. YES - the poll numbers changed drastically following that first debate,
if I recall. I was 20, and watched it in my dorm room - it was pretty terrifying.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:35 PM
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9. Actually, the senility was in the second debate, too.
Reagan's closing statements from the second debate with Mondale:

REAGAN: Yes, my thanks to the League of Women Voters, to the panelists, to the moderator, and to the people of Kansas City for their warm hospitality and greeting.

I think the American people tonight have much to be grateful for: an economic recovery that has become expansion, freedom, and most of all, we are at peace. I am grateful for the chance to reaffirm my commitment to reduce nuclear weapons and one day to eliminate them entirely.

The question before comes down to this: do you want to see America retrun to the policies of weakness of the last four year, or do we want to go forward marching together as a nation of strength and that's going to continue to be strong?

We shouldn't be dwelling on the past or even the present. The meaning of this election is the future, and whether we're going to grow and provide the jobs and the opportunities for all Americans and that they need. Several years ago I was given an assignment to write a letter. It was to go into a time capsule and would be read in 100 years when that time capsule was opened. I remember driving down the California coast on day. My mind was full of what I was going to put in that letter about the problems and the issues that confront us in our time and what we did about them, but I couldn't completely neglect the beauty around me - the Pacific out there on one side of the highway shining in the sunlight, the mountains of the coast range rising on the other side, and I found myself wondering what it would be like for someone, wondering if someone 100 years from now would be driving down that highway and if they would see the same thing.

And with that thought I realized what a job I had with that letter. I would be writing a letter to people who know everything there is to know about us. We know nothing about them. They would know all about our problems. They would know how we solved them and whether our solution was beneficial to them down through the years or whether it hurt them. They would also know that we lived in a world with terrible weapons, nuclear weapons of terrible destructive power aimed at each other, capable of crossing the ocean in a matter of minutes and destroying civilization as we know it.

And then I thought to myself: what are they going to say about us? What are those people 100 years from now whether we used those weapons or not. Well, what they will say about us 100 years from now depends on how we keep our rendezvous with destiny. Will we do the things that we know must be done and and know that one day down in history 100 years, or perhaps for those people back in the 1980's, for preserving our freedom, for saving for us this blessed planet called earth with all its grandeur and its beauty.

You know, I am grateful for all of you giving the opportunity to serve you for these four years and I seek re-election because I want more than anything else to try to complete the new beginning that we charted four years ago.

George Bush, who I think is one of the finest Vice Presidents this country has ever had, George Bush and I have crisscrossed the country and we've had in these last few months a wonderful experience. We have met young America. We have met your sons and daughters.

MODERATOR: Mr. President, I'm obliged to cut you off there under the rules of the debate. I'm sorry.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/showdebate.php?debateid=12
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