**Question to all DU'ers** Is Palin acutally hurting her future political career?

[President Decider]

Knowing how badly the GOP wanted to wheel her out in front of millions of Americans and introduce her as the future face of the Republican party, I'm now left to wonder just how badly "Sarah 6 Pack" has hurt herself politically as a result of being pulled out of the oven far too early before she was remotely close to being ready for politics at this level.

At least the Democratic party did the right thing by allowing Obama (a rising star of at the time) the correct exposure opportunity by making him a speech presenter at the 2004 DNC. This is where millions like myself her him for the first time and said,

"One day ... that man will be a President!

Then Obama did the right thing and grew his political career even more by running for State Senator and winning. Palin on the other hand was picked right off the vine well before she was even remotely close to being ready.

I think Palin's future is seriously in trouble. What do you think?

[tosh]

1. If her ticket loses, and it will, her career is finished.

[totodeinhere]

40. What makes you think that? VP candidates on losing tickets usually run for VP four years later.

Mark my word, Palin will run in 2012.

[Mz Pip]

2. Depends on what

career she's aspiring to. I'd suggest she go back to the PTA or perhaps volunteer to be a team parent for whichever kid is in line to play hockey.

But President? No. Fucking. Way.

[ibegurpard]

3. Honestly

I think that the Republicans knew they had to write this one off and so let the Fundamentalists go hog wild.

[Kerrytravelers]

15. There is something to that theory. The GOP knew that, because of the Bush legacy, they would be hard

pinned to win this year. Also ,due to Bush's legacy, they were losing the fundamenaltists. Bush was suppose to, in the religious fundamentalists mind, end abortion, demonize homosexuals to the marginaliszed frindge of society and put the 10 Commandents and the Bible in the schools and all public spaces. It didn't happen. Fundamenalists will tend to stay home and not vote. They were not excited about McCain, but he ended up the nominee because he was the one most likely to pull disaffected Democrats, if the Democratic nominee didn't "wow" the Democratic party.

So, the Republicans have McCain and then the Democrats have two candidates (Obama and Hillary) that are brining in all the Democrats and an unbelievable number of new voters. The candidate is finally decided, and what do they pull? The "PUMA" nonsense that didn't work. So, what happens?

They know that the Democratic party is winning. The wars, the economy, the criminality of the Bush administration- all these are driving the Democrats to big wins from the top of the ticket all the way down. So, what is a Republican strategist to do? Throw the often called Hail Mary Pass.

Well, it's multi-fold, this Hail Mary Pass. It is a desperate attempt to get the disaffected Hillary voted (failed,) to show a maverick move to those who remember the old McCain pre-Bush years (fail) and it is a way to seduce the fundamentalists- and this is not such a failure. They are excited again. They are considering going to the polls in November. And, they will remember this in 2012, this attempt to bring them back in the fold.

In the end, was it Palin's job to win this election, or just remind the fundamentalists which party will secumb to their social demands? Maybe Palin has done exactly what she set out to do.

[morillon]

29. Exactly.

I'm guessing that more serious candidates like Romney told McCain to piss up a rope when it came time to pick VPs. They don't want to be tied to this stinker of a ticket. Box office poison.

[midnight armadillo]

56. Not with Romney

That guy has wanted the presidency too much, for too long to ever have turned down the VP slot. He would have gladly been on the losing ticket and re-run in 2012, which I guarantee he will do anyway.

In hindsight, having a VP with genuine financial cred (even if he is a soulless scumbag) would have been a huge boon to McCain right now. We're fortunate he picked Palin.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. After Troopergate,

I think she will be hard pressed to be re-elected Governor. Her star will fade fast.

[Bonn1997]

5. I doubt her job in Alaska is in trouble

And I don't think she was ever going to win a national election anyway.

[spanone]

6. what future political career?

[Kerrytravelers]

7. I said the following in a different thread:

{in regards to whether Palin is setting her sights on running for President in 2012} ...that might be circling in her dizzy little head, but being a pitiful and criticized part of a losing campaign and to have made such an international fool of herself, I seriously doubt that she will will a Republican primary against able candidates like Romney, Huckabee, possibly Jindel, Ridge and others. I really doubt it. Serious candidates who can speak intelligently (although we might vehemently disagree, but intelligently) on the issues will clean her clock (a little folksy cliche there, for 'ya, dog-gone-it,) during the first primary debate that will end any hopes of an actual legitimate run.

The bar for her was set so low, and everyone knows it. She knows nothing. I can pontificate more on the issues than she can- and really, that is sad. Everyone knows that she rattled off talking points. The fact checks have found a ton of errors, misfacts and outright lies. She is a one trick gimmick. Everyone knows it. She knows it.

She'll never be any closer to the White House than she is right now, and according to the polls, it is approximately 7% points (and growing) and about 100+ EV (and counting.)

It's over. And, I would also bet that she is on her last term of Governor, as the people of Alaska are embaressed by her, they're learning more about her than they ever had before and, as we speak, her negatives in Alaska are growing and her positives falling.

[BlueIdaho]

8. I see her as a

Failed candidate for VP and a one term governor of the state of Alaska. Her willingness to look into the lens and lie her ass off will be her undoing.

[Demeter]

20. I See Her in an Orange Jumpsuit

and it's not her color!

[BlueIdaho]

53. Hilarious!!!!!! nm.

[Montauk6]

9. Political career, yes; Reality TV career, ahhhhh.... different story...

She'll be juggling offers til the moose come home!

[frickaline]

24. The only house she's heading for is MTV's House.

[Overseas]

54. Her new show, Governor Barracuda, will begin on Jan 18th

At least that's what I've always thought. Sitcom Sarah has been building her brand for her reality TV show, Governor Barracuda. Grampy McSame can come on as the salty old mentor she goes to to figure out the ways of Washington.

I'd say her political career will be fine too, if the Republicans maintain their forget the facts but pump the culture war track.

If President Obama gives us single payer national health insurance then it will be a very long time before Republicans get the presidency back.

[TheDonkey]

10. With all things considered she never had one before so this VP stint is a net positive

at least she gets to see the lower 48 for a few weeks.

[livetohike]

11. After losing this election, she will return to Alaska and every

move she makes will be scrutinized. That's provided she still has the job after Troopergate. I predict she will be tossed out of office and have no future in national politics. Perhaps she will return to Wasilla and run for mayor again.

[renate]

12. someone mentioned on another thread--or maybe it was the actual subject of the thread--

Her perky hot-librarian looks will probably be gone in eight years. That's a major cause of her appeal right now, and the clock is going to run out eventually.

I'm NOT saying that women or men can't be attractive after 50 (at least, I hope not...!)--she probably still will be good-looking--but the winking etc, coming from a woman of more mature years, is just going to look like mutton dressed as lamb.

[crazy_vanilla]

13. no, you can never be too stupid for a career with the Republican party

:banghead:

[Unbowed]

14. She'll always have a job on Faux Newz, where all the crooks and liars end up after

their political stock plunges.

[mtnester]

16. Sarah Palin has been a tactic from thre beginning

her sole use is to distrazct from McCain and Bush.

And she is too stupid to see it. And the MSM and a lot of sheeple are falling for it. Right now, everyone is ONLY talking about Sarah Palin.

It is Distraction 101. That is why a more experienced woman from their own party was not selected.

[1Hippiechick]

17. If their ticket wins, and McGrampaw kicks the bucket, I would say her future is secure--for a while.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

18. She can always go to Sturgis and run for Miss Buffalo Chip

or Miss Moosepatty or whatever the hell it was Grampy volunteered Cindy for.

[Frumious B]

19. I hope to heck that she has trashed her political future.

That woman scares the heck out of me.

[cyr330]

21. It WILL be over. . .

But she's so narcissistic that she won't realize it and will still try to run in 2012.

[midnight armadillo]

58. There's the 'n' word!

Judging from accounts of her over the years, I'd say Palin qualifies as a pathological narcissist. She will blame everyone but herself for going down in flames in November. I pity the kids.

[vaberella]

22. She's not hurting it. That implies she could salvage her career. She's destroying it...

if she hadn't already.

:D

[rucky]

23. One-term Gov vs. Half-term Gov.

same diff

[Clio the Leo]

25. I understand your parallel but there is NO comparison between Barack and Palin..

Barack Obama had more intelligence, compassion and raw talent when he was 20 than Sarah Palin will have in 20 lifetimes.

They're both Americans ....... that's about where the simmilarities end.

[renie408]

26. Since my first thought was "WHAT future political career??"...I would have to say, yes. n/t

[saltpoint]

27. Yes. She's been revealed as a mean-spirited flirt with

almost no grasp of even basic issues.

Obama/Biden will bury McCain/Palin alive on Nov. 4th and I doubt if we'll be hearing from Secessionist Barbie again.

[President Decider]

28. I'm willing to bet she'll either work for Fox News as a pundit or be the next Limbaugh for the west

have her own sindicated radio show.

[bridgit]

30. 'a politician' is what she has become in her capacity as oil & gas industry shill...

That part of her career will remain marketable as an industry lobbyist, and when this VP stuff fails she'll be down on K St, or in Dallas or Dubai hocking those wares

[theothersnippywshrub]

31. She is a cruel, lying, criminal, fundy nut job sack of shit. Those are strong GOP credentials.

The republican losses this year will be blamed on McCain and rinos at the RNC by the cruel, lying, criminal, fundy nut job, coprophagous sacks of shit which make up the majority of the republican base. She will have a strong fund raising operation starting on November 5 and will build a huge database of supporters. She will hire professional help to teach her to be less of a complete and total dumbass. Unless she is destroyed she will be a powerful figure in republican politics for years to come. Shadow Governor Dude won't let this opportunity pass.

[polichick]

32. I would like to think neocons and whackjob fundies will be drummed out of the GOP soon.

[totodeinhere]

41. That would be nice, but it won't happen.

In fact, IMO the opposite will happen. The nut cases will drive reasonable people out of the GOP for good. When they lose big time in this election, the nutty right wingers will say that they lost because McCain was not conservative enough, and they will demand that the GOP move even more to the right.

[casus belli]

33. I hope so.

She ruined her brand. Most "hockey moms" I know don't go around making racist and inflammatory accusations against people to further their own agendas.

[Bubbha Jo]

34. She's tanked it......

I bet you see her as a commentator on Fox after she loses election as Governor next time around.

Alaska is more liberal. They've got her number loud and clear now. If she moved to another state to seek office, the fundy base who like her sort isn't enough to put her into office anywhere.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

35. Watching an interview with Andrew Halco

He's a former Republican who ran against her as an Independent in 2006. The reporter asked how all of this scandal played out in their contest, and he said that none of it (the facts about her term as Mayor of Wasilla - rape kits, firings, etc.) ever came out in that election. Add to that Troopergate and the use of Expense Reports to pad her income, plus the fact that the Alaska GOP hates her guts, and I think her political career is going to come to a screeching halt in 2010.

[nc4bo]

36. I predict we will be seeing Sarahfishbait again. The Fundie batshitcrazy loves them some Sarah.nt

[Lorentz]

37. Not after she loses. They'll quickly forget about her.

[sampsonblk]

38. Yes, and I almost feel bad for her

Almost. But not quite.

She is doing what any of us would do. She got the call to have the ride of her life, so she accepted the chance. Ready or not, here she came. Now she is doing her absolute best to help her team win. She is definitely a team player. You can see how her can-do attitude made her a good athlete.

Problem is, she is way screwed up, and she is playing for the wrong team. She is contributing to evil, ust to advance her own interests. So in the end, she can phuck off as far as I am concerned.

But I wish that more Democrats displayed her type of effort. We could have used that type of effort during the dark era of GW Shrub.

[fed_up_mother]

39. WHAT future?

She's toast, imo.

[Motown_Johnny]

42. she will end up spouting shit on FOX

[TNMOM]

47. Good observation. I can see her spouting right wing crap on Faux...

[BlooInBloo]

43. She has no future.

[nam78_two]

44. One can only hope.nt

[Bluenorthwest]

45. After she helps Johnny loose

Palin will go home to find that lots of people 'outside' will now be funding anyone who runs against her, donating to Wasilla Planned Parenthood, the liberal church she hates, all the Native People's causes locally, heck, we just may have to open a gay bar or a Hindu Temple or somesuch shenanigans right up by the hockey rink.
Her home will never ever be the same. Any and everything she hates will be funded by all of us who are so utterly offended at her basic contempt for the institutions of the United States of America. The liberals of the Lower 48, along with our counterparts in Alaska, will never let her live it down. There will be websites and dedicated clearing houses.

[TNMOM]

46. she's a tool. once they are done with her (nov. 5), she'll be trashed.

There are way too many other conservatives who are ahead of her in line and who are better organized. She lucked out not having to run during the primaries. No way this dumbass would have made it out of the primaries.

Also, for all the talk about being progressive, if there is a male version of her running for the same office, no way the fundies would back a woman over a man.

She does not have political friends. She has no fundraising apparatus. She has no real network of supporters.

No way she can run on her own.

The McCain candidacy was a perfect storm from her perspective. He was already the nominee, he already had the money. All she had to do was repeat the talking points. No way lightning like this is going to strike again.

[babydollhead]

48. to her, these ARE end times.

she doesn't believe that she will have to have her future here. The only way out is through.

[Disturbed]

49. Gov. Palin needs to be Impeached, now!!!

At the very least, Alaskans need to mount a Recall Petition & toss her out. She is corrupt & inept. The vetting process of her becoming Gov. must have been almost non existent. Her abuses while Gov. have been ignored until recently. The spotlight now has revealed her unethical & perhaps criminal actions as Gov. She screwed up by accepting the VP position that is way beyond her level & has brought about scrutiny of her as Mayor & Gov. She is unfit to be Gov., much less VP or possibly Pres. of the USA..

[tosh]

51. I IRC, murmerings of a recall have already begun.

[Obamanaut]

50. No harm at all. One estimate I heard on the Sunday Morning show

on CBS today was that of the 400+ seats in the house, only about 10% are competitive - in part due to districting and gerry-mandering. I imagine the Senate seats up for grabs is about the same percentage. With congressional approval ratings around 15% now, and we're still reelecting the same old weasels, why should a dunderhead performance by Sarah in this campaign harm her career? She'll simply wink and wrinkle her nose and all will be fine.

Bleh!

[WindRiverMan]

52. I think she is four years too late!

The good-ol, down-home, regular people, just like you, theme was Bush's qualities. It wont work this year and I dont think it will work in four years either, this disaster created by this Prozac deprived little man will take a decade to fix. In 2016 though, I could see her making a real run. OF course, by then, her body will be that of a fifty year old, and her wink (which I believe is her way of saying Ya know ya want to do me, and if you vote for me and buy me a few drinks, I might just letcha) won't have the same appeal.

[ShortnFiery]

55. From your keyboard to God's "To Do" list. I sure hope so ... a little justice for both the USA and

the Great State of Alaska as well. :patriot:

Hell, even the critters in Alaska are em-BEAR-assed.



The mighty polar bear is a feared and savage carnivore ... but at least the prey is taken down cleanly - the natural laws of nature at work.

[Essene]

57. Yes. She would have been a 2012 contender if she stayed at home...

and learned something about the world before getting into national politics.

[yellowcanine]

59. Well if she continues as an "attack dog" she will hurt her chances with Dems and

Independents. Ask Bob Dole. Dems never forgave him for his role in 1976 as Ford's attack dog. And she is never going to win without some Dem and Independent support. Dole, just as Palin is now, was pretty much a "blank slate" in 1976. He was defined as an attack dog and could never shake it. He probably would not have even won the 1996 nomination if the Republicans weren't fairly sure he had little chance at upending Clinton. Palin will be also be forever branded if she continues along these lines, no matter how much she talks about being a bipartisan maverick.

[Kingofalldems]

60. You betcha!!