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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:24 PM
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ARR- Randi Rhodes kicking ass - Iraq soldier shares "NO PLAN for Baghdad"
It's on now.... there was no plan in the actual battle plan for once they got to baghdad.

Fire Rumsfeld and Shrub...

Listen now
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:26 PM
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1. "not enough guys...borders not secure....like a bar fight"
and Rumsfeld is off fishing
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:31 PM
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6. bush has said he's read a bit of history...
Apparently nothing about conflicts in the Middle East. You could have the best laid plans for war over there and it won't mean shit.

Whatever the repubs say about the morality of Muslims, they have been the targets of invasions since the dawn of time. They have thousands of years of history of throwing people out of their countries.

bush comes along and thinks he can change that - he's a bigger dumbass than anyone could have ever imagined.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:28 PM
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2. "no body armor ... active duty got the good stuff"
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:29 PM
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3. go to his site optruth.com
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:35 PM
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7. story from the site...many there..the truth
US must face monster it created
I feel uneasy returning this month to American soil after my 15-month tour in Iraq. This dreadful feeling is inescapable. Every day I must look in the mirror and face the fact that I served in a war based on flawed premises. I was told that Iraq was an imminent threat, that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. There were no WMD. I was told that Saddam had collaborated with Al Qaeda. He had not. Later I was told that we invaded Iraq to bring its people freedom and democracy. In my time in Iraq I witnessed the security situation deteriorate daily, and elections have yet to be held. (Incidentally, before the war I believed in the humanitarian cause of liberating the Iraqi people from the evil of Saddam and I still believe in that cause.) My personal experiences on the ground epitomize broader, and sometimes troubling, issues in the war. When my company landed in theatre in May, I was one of the few soldiers equipped with body armor effective at stopping powerful AK-47 ammunition. My mother, an elementary school art teacher, shipped the bullet-proof ceramic plates to me from the States. Other soldiers weren’t so lucky, having to raid buildings and patrol dangerous streets while wearing inferior Vietnam-era flak jackets. Later I learned that 40,000 troops had been sent into Iraq without effective body armor. We rode in ‘soft shell’ Humvees, equipped with flimsy fiber-glass doors. A Volvo has more protection. I saw the blood of American soldiers spilled because of the lack of ‘up-armored’ Humvees.

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http://www.optruth.com/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screenKey=userShowStories&userID=53622
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:53 PM
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15. Truly, truly awful
But I must register a quibble with his report: "I believed in the humanitarian cause of liberating the Iraqi people from the evil of Saddam and I still believe in that cause."

It's not up to the United States to "liberate" countries from their leaders, no matter how foul or heinous. It is the job of the world community of nations to hold despots to account and to enforce the international treaties that civilized countries have negotiated and signed through mutual agreement.

Other than that small quibble (and I realize that the writer isn't saying that the exclusive vehicle of "liberation" is the U.S. military, but it's the one he participated in), I think this guy needs to be heard on every show where some never-been-in-combat neocon dweeb is droning on and on about the rightness and mightness of the military.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:29 PM
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4. No body armor when they got there
who cares about the 87 billion, because Bush sent them into danger without the equipment, and still hasn't gotten it to them (no matter what the 87 billion was for, it's not going to the troops).
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REVOLT823 Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:30 PM
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5. This is good stuff,
No bullets, no batteries for radios, no radios, no armor, and then she tells him that this $86 billion everyone is talking about, only 1 billion has been spent on the military, where is the rest, that is what we need to ask Bush (paraphrasing). She rocks, I really love her show.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:37 PM
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8. 40/50% of the force is nat. guard...talking about draft - he said "wake up
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:38 PM
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9. talking about shrubs comment "not winning terror" demoralizes troops
wants to hold bush accountable for a exit plan.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:40 PM
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10. no plan for intepretors... no cultural training... where is the grass
roots efforts to help the people of Iraq..? They can't be the answer.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:42 PM
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11. "people in Iraq to make money"...talking about the contrators making much
more while they protect them!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:44 PM
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12. "countries not sending troops becuase they were shut out of rebuilding"
the troops can see this...it's about $$$ ..again.


Soldier said he never saw coalition troops...
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:46 PM
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13. "Bremer had hot food and a pool" ..."for them - Food from KBR sucked"
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:48 PM
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14. Soldiers on the ground say "the setup smells bad"
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 04:17 PM
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16. I am sending them some money
they accept PAYPAL come on DU er's we can help!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 04:40 PM
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17. This guy is the PERFECT rebuttal to SBVFT! Put him in a commercial!
He's speaking the Truth about Iraq the way Kerry spoke the Truth about Vietnam after he returned. THIS is what the 'Merikun people need to hear!
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