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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:55 AM
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Don't Worry About Obama's Safety
He is well protected, and the Secret Service are doing their jobs. He is not worried, so you shouldn't be. He has the greatest interest in self-preservation, far more than you or I have.

My concern over the ever increasing vitriol from the mcKKKain rallies is violence or threats from these hate-filled crowds to Democratic Voters. The ball that mcKKKain and S.S.arah are rolling down the hill could easily get out of control, and the hate generated could be aimed at common citizens.

That is my worry, and why it must stop before it gets out of control, if it hasn't already.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:58 AM
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1. Well said.
God knows, the actions of some of these people make me feel violent, and I normally wouldn't want to harm a fly. Those fueled by fear and hatred...


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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:58 AM
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2. Yes, I go canvassing alone
I haven't been attacked yet or feared for my safety. If people feel it is ok to do that, I might be in trouble.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:59 AM
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3. see... i am getting feeling i may need to pull stickers. kids at boys school just last couple
days are changing tone. i am keeping my eyes and ears open
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:15 PM
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7. That is what they want... stick it out if you can.
Obviously be safe. But if you can keep the stickers on do it. Fear is their plan.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:38 PM
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13. i will, thanks. i am not easily intimidated and TOO many good people around
it is the aggressive driving i would be concerned about.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:05 PM
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15. Like I said. Be safe... but try to stick it out.
We can use all the help we can get.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:01 PM
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4. I agree. The SS is the ONLY Fed. agency that is still very well
run and doing a very good job! Think of it this way. If they managed to keep Shrub's a** safe, with so many people WORLD WIDE, whating to take him off the stage, they can protect anyone, and they really aren't partisan! They take their job very, very seriously!

The avg. citizen doesn't have that kind of protection, and it is frightening. Lots of people on DU chastize me for being a chicken, but I've seen some of the RW radicals in action, and I just stay away from them. I suggest everyone else do the same.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:17 PM
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11. Without denegrating the role of the secret service in anyway
Bush made the one decision that probbaly saved his life. Having Cheney as a VP. No one, no matter how deranged would have wanted him at the top.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:12 PM
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5. The Secret Service are seriously badass
I have been to DC and the White House several times and you take one step out of line and you will wish you had never been born. I made the mistake of walking towards a couple of them one time to ask directions and was told, in no uncertain terms, to get the fuck away NOW because I was interfering with what they were doing and watching. Those guys looked like they were chiseled out of granite, had some equally scary dogs and were armed to the teeth.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:16 PM
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8. Yup - they are highly trained observers

And recognize that anyone attempting to distract them may be a threat.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:13 PM
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6. Very well put n/t
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:17 PM
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9. agreed, we could see a road rage incident or something like it
I get some wierd looks from people on the road and sometimes I think it's because of my Obama08 bumper sticker. I take it in stride and not get paranoid. But anything can happen. These conservatives are getting whipped and whipping themselves up into a froth. They did it when Clinton was running and were vicious while Clinton was in office. Now we have both a Democrat leading and he is black. The nutjobs are coming unglued, and hopefully so will the Republican party. But on Nov 5th they'll blame it all on illegal aliens voting.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:01 PM
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14. I've gotten more than weird looks here in VA
sometimes on the freeway someone will really ride my tail, or swerve in front of me, etc. on a fairly empty road and I think WTH?

Then I remember I've got the sticker on the car.

The same thing happened back in 2004 -- even after Bush had won -- and I thought about taking my Kerry sticker off. Then I realized I was not going to back down (I don't have kids, so it made my decision easy) and I kept that sticker on my car until the day I removed it to put my Obama sticker on.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:17 PM
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10. Sorry - I know the Service is very good but still.....
Sorry, I've lived too long and seen too many great leaders gunned down. This frenzy McCain and Palin are whipping up and knowing the nutcases this country has I will worry.

Hey I worried about Bill Clinton as well.

And I still blame the hate-mongers on talk radio and radical Repukes for Oklahoma City. They stoked McVeigh.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:26 PM
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12. We've all seen our most admired leaders gunned down, but
you can't forget that when those things happened, those leaders, the SS, AND the public in general thought differently.

Do you remember the stories about JFK sneaking out of the WH at night just to take a walk alone? Back then, Presidents used to ride around in convertibles with the top down! I think Kennedy's assassination, as terrible as it was, was harder for the American people to accept because they all really believed something like that could never happen in the USA!

SS protection & presidential activities have dramatically changed since then. Presidents take far fewer risks, and the SS doesn't take ANY!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:08 PM
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17. As long as there are crowds and Presidents/candidates wade
in to them or are in proximity there will always be danger.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:08 PM
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16. Well this may give you cause for concern.
One thing that Marley and Hensley didn't have-- governmental authority themselves. They had to depend on their friends in government to help them out. But then Hensley got a gift-- his daughter married the former Navy pilot and decorated veteran of the Vietnam conflict, John McCain. Hensley knew right away what to do. According to an article published in 2000 by the Phoenix New Times

http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/cindy-mccains-father-all-mobbed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bolles
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:10 PM
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18. Totally agree. I have faith in the Secret Service's ability to secure a perimeter.
I think Obama and Biden and their families are safe. But there are thousands of Democratic candidates and campaign workers who are potential targets out there, who aren't being protected.

I hate to say this, but I'll be shocked if there isn't violence of some sort directed against someone seeking elective office by some violent right wing thug.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:14 PM
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19. Just so that nobody is under any foolish made-up illusions about who's guarding Obama...
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:40 PM
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20. Sorry - but I don't share your "faith" at all...
I don't trust ANYTHING that has existed for the past eight years under repuke corruption...

I believe that EVERYTHING has been corrupted. EVERYTING.

If obama is smart, he will KNOW PERSONALLY all his secret service detail...

Trust.
No.
One.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:53 PM
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21. JFK was "well-protected" too, so was Bobby, and MLK...
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 01:53 PM by ailsagirl
The bottom line is that if the Powers That Be want to get rid of someone, it can be easily done. Nuff said.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 09:03 AM
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22. Good point. Racial minorities in red states may be in trouble
we'll see...
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