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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 08:59 PM Original message |
Andrew Sullivan Just Wrote The Most Brilliant Piece On Obama I Think I've Ever Read |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama has been underestimated throughtout this campaign |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. He's even been misunderestimated. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes it is a brilliant point and it is true |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. LOL, loved this... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yes, that was an excellent |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. That was my favorite too! |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. Sullivan was the first high-profile Obamacan journalist/blogger. He's been more loyal to Obama.... |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. What a great read. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. Andrew has hit this one out of the ball park! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. Wow! That was mesmerizing to |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. n/t |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
10. Campaigns |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
11. I've been watching him work his magic with the Clintons |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. But Sullivan got one thing wrong about the Clinton's. He said |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
69. He has AUTHORITY |
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lucky leftie (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #11 |
87. The name for it? How about "imaginary?" |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
12. Excellent piece |
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gratefultobelib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
13. Marvelous. I enjoyed every word. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. "Beep, beep!" I can almost picture McLame with his ACME campaign kit. |
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Mira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
15. How often can I recommend this?????? |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. While I do like the article, I disagree with the last sentence |
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TXDemGal (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Yes, you're so right on |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. I liked the article, too, but didn't like the line, "That's how he |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yeah, I had to reread that sentence a couple of times |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. That line was weird, as though his own mother would be afraid of the African side of him...? nt |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. In that line, Sullivan is alluding to a passage from "Dreams from My Father". |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. My teenage sons manage me exactly the same way. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. I can't imagine |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
47. One of the tasks of being a teenager is learning how to "manage" your parents |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. Yeah, but I wasn't a black child managing my "white mother" |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Honey, I'm telling you, I *do* need a valium |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
80. Hear hear! |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
39. I take it more as he was saying that America needs a calming influence right now, |
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sohndrsmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
91. You're right. I have a problem with the very first sentence, though, too: |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. oh and the nasty things DUers said about him |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. Just because Sullivan has written a perceptive piece on Obama doesn't mean he is a "good guy". |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. If I Recall Correctly... He Once Was A Democrat... Then Switched To Something |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
50. yeah we DUers tend NOT to like right wing pieces of shit such as |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
52. He deserved every one of those nasty things and more. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. Excellent read, recommended. It takes a smart guy to outfox the Clintons. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. It has some good bits, but I find it very insulting. |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I agree (see my post above) |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. That "managed his white mother" rubs me wrong, too. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
21. Excellent commentary. eom |
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StreetKnowledge (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
23. Can't say I disagree. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. I like the comment by the Irish guy |
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crossroads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
25. Great read! Obama is charmed and so very clever! K&R |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. This comment to the article is priceless... |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
27. He had me until the middle of the third paragraph |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. You are correct. |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
30. I love it! "Rope-a-Dope" |
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volstork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
32. Thanks for the post |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
34. Sullivan is a great writer. He should write a novel because that reads beautifully. nt |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. I hope the Clintons don't read this. :) nt |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
38. Sullivan nails it. |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
40. Thank you. Excellent read. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
41. The article was very good but I had to go back and read the |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
42. Sulli's coming around |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
43. An undeserved reputation, at that. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
46. "They need a Valium.. they can now vote for one for President." Indeed ! K&R |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
48. "rope-a-dope" I been saying this since August |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
49. I bet Obama is consciously aware of the rope-a-dope analogy |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
51. Sullivan is using H20man's metaphors we've read here for months |
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Stump (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
53. Great piece... |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
54. "Rope a Dope"? Sports analogy? I find that racist in some ways. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Oh please. It's a boxing term and perfectly apt. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. sullivan has some racial issues |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. oiy. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. Don't you think that's a little bit of a stretch? |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
57. Great Article! |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
61. Brilliant piece. Valium, yeah. Mother's little helper. nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
63. I had a conversation with a reporter recently on this same topic |
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uberblonde (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
65. Yes, it's absolutely peachy... |
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lucky leftie (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Sullivan never misses a chance... |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Clinton Lost Her Primary To Obama So Your Point Is? |
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lucky leftie (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Awwww, that baby is adorable. |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. My Grip Is Fine |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
66. K & R |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
70. Meh. Old news. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
73. He really loathes the Clintons, doesn't he? I wonder what the deal is. |
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lucky leftie (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Yep. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Remember...Sully was always a Conservative and they ALL still HATE |
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lucky leftie (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I know. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Interesting point...adding "Caution" as to whether we believe these folks have "Turned" |
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lucky leftie (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
74. I just realized something. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. But at least... |
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lucky leftie (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. That's not saying much, though . |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
79. Outstanding, he nails it big time! |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
81. Andrew@theatlantic.com |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
83. Where's H20Man....he would love this post from Sully. It's what he was |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Kick! |
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