We Aren't Playing To Win Any More.

[WeDidIt]

Nope, we don't need to play to win any more.

What this election is about now is providing such a HUGE win for Barack Obama that nobody in their right mind will be able to say he doesn't have a mandate.

This election is now about DESTROYING FOR ALL TIME the failed philosophy of American Conservative Politics. It needs to be dumped on the dustbin of history like other failed political philosophies (e.g. Communism, Fascism, Monarchy, etc.).

Now get out there and fight some more. Donate some more. These idiots are down and now is the time to KICK THEIR TEETH IN!

[DarthDem]

1. Sounds Good

I'll sign up for that.

A mandate is actually very important. We are going to have another 10-12 seats in the House, I would guess (perhaps that's even pessimistic), and at least 57 seats in the Senate. Coupled with a huge win for Obama, we will have the needed political capital to do what Clinton and the Congress failed to do from January of 1993 to November of 1994 (ugh) - - get things done, in a very lasting manner. Universal health care should be up there.

[judasdisney]

2. 4 days before the election, Neocons will drop Phil Berg's forged "Obama Kenya birth certificate"

Laugh away. ABC "Road To 9/11" and FOX and CNN won't laugh. They'll seize the opportunity.

http://clintondems.com/2008/10/att-phil-berg-wins-court-case-judge-orders-obama-to-produce-vault-copy-of-birth-certificate/

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. What's the point of the link?

To show that Berg is delusional? No-one is going to believe that Obama was born in Kenya. Suddenly his mum was spirited half way round the world for medical care almost certain to be worse, for what? It's ridiculous. No, they have to base their smears on something approaching reality. And they've found nothing.

[tblue37]

12. Besides, IT WOULD NOT MATTER. His mother was an

American citizen. That makes Obama an American citizen, NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN.

[muriel_volestrangler]

16. Technically, it would matter - which I'm sure is why Berg made this up

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html

Since his mother was born November 29, 1942, and he was born August 4, 1961, she hadn't quite completed 5 years after the age of 14. So if he had been born abroad, there would have been a problem.

[Autonomy]

19. It's not his US citizenship that is the key point

but the stipulation that a US president must be born in the United States.

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. And I heard just the opposite

That the judge threw out the case.

[WeDidIt]

5. Dude, Phil Berg is a con man

He's bilking people out of donations.

[underpants]

6. and surely no mention of the "questions" about where exactly McCain was born in Panama

in a military hospital? or, it was 1936, in his dad the Admiral's home residence???

[nichomachus]

11. Fortunately, many people will have voted by then

I voted yesterday

[iceman66]

18. Are we to believe

that Obama's grandparents posted a phony birth announcement in the local paper just so he could someday run for president?

Please.

[Tribetime]

7. That's what I'm talking about K/R

[underpants]

8. Trust me even if it isn't said everyone knows that this is the meltdown of conservatism

the polls show it too.

Lots of work still to be done but they are flailing away at air. Obama rope-a-doped them in August. They are tired and exhausted.

[WeDidIt]

15. Time to run up the score

I want these prickes DEVESTATED. I want them so demoralized that all they can do is point fingers at every faction except theirs. I want the Republican Party to splinter six different ways, disband, and several different third parties spend the next two decadews trying to fill the void.

As Markos Moulitsas says, "let's CRUSH them."

[Essene]

9. I disagree and will make a few angry for saying this...

First of all, the goal needs to remain on winning. And winning with integrity. If there is any luxury afforded the Obama campaign right now, it's that he can back off attack ads.

Secondly, there is a danger in democrats taking a victory as some type of permanent ideological and cultural "mandate." The problem with Carl Rove is that he attempted to do precisely what you are talking about, establishing a mega-majority that would last for ages. Let's be a tad less "kick their teeth in" in attitude, and realize that the underlying force behind this potential crushing victory is THE ECONOMY.

Fear and frustration are very real, very tangible this year and it would be a mistake to assume this is 100% some ideological & cultural rejection of "the failed philosophy of american conservative politics." These are reactionary times, and what makes Obama so compelling is that... HE IS NOT REACTIONARY. Follow his lead.

The Democrats will likely be in control of the White House and Congress. This is going to provide some compulsion to exaggerate and to abuse a sense of entitlement.

Conservatives are not all neocons, cultural warriors and religious nuts. They are paying the price for 8-10 years of arrogant politics and total disregard for those who disagree with their views.

Democrats need not to make the same mistakes, now...

[Orsino]

10. Yeah. The real enemy is the money arrayed against us.

We will have a small window of opportunity next year to separate the lobbyists from our legislative process. If we fail to accomplish that, expect the Democratic Party to look more and more like the GOP.

We could stop the corruption if we truly wanted. Wouldn't it be nice to find out what liberal and conservative really mean, as distinct from all that corporate money?

[tblue37]

14. Yes, and there is more. Whichever way the wind blows, that is the

direction the scum blows, too. Many people who are essentially Republicans at heart, or at the very least just scumbag out-for-themselves crooks, will become Democrats just to get elected in a climate where only Dems get elected. They will corrupt the party. In fact, we already have some Dems like that. Many blue dog Democrats are not that different from Republicans and often vote with them against our party's (and our) interest.

[donco6]

13. Remember "mandate"?

It seems to be that theme can work for either party, no?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

20. Except that the 2004 Bush "mandate" was like what? 2.5%?

And that's assuming there were no Diebold shennanigans in places like Ohio.

[Shanti Mama]

17. Two Points

1. We are very likely to win big and then Obama and the Democratic Congress will be the big Barn that everyone will be aiming at, no matter how much they love him deep inside. That's what we humans, and Americans in particular it seems to me, do. We rip down those in power.

2. Don't forget the failed 'philosophy' of growth-based (e.g. CONSUMER) capitalism.

I live in Kathmandu. The irony of my leaving the US to get away from materialism and consumerism. Plastic food containers are all the rage, as is processed food. Meanwhile, I'm trying to get away from plastic and continue to have ALL meals cooked from scratch (we don't always actually make our pasta, but just about everything else). Granted this is only in the city but the emerging middle class here is just so dog gone excited to be able to state that their favorite leisure activity is shopping. Look at the obesity rates in India, Thailand, Malaysia. Scarey...