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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:19 PM
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It's over: McCain campaign attacks Bill Kristol
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/13/nancy-v-bill-kristol/

Yesterday on Fox News Sunday, Bill Kristol said John McCain’s campaign has really become “a pathetic campaign.” In his New York Times op-ed this morning, Kristol went further, suggesting that McCain should “fire his campaign” and “start over.” Asked to respond to Kristol’s criticisms, McCain campaign spokeswoman Nancy Pfotenhauer said on Fox News:

Well, you know Bill is entitled to his perspective. And I used to work for Bill. And I can tell you personally sometimes he’s brilliant and sometimes he’s not. And this is one where it’s the latter category. You know, I think unfortunately he has bought into the Obama campaign’s party line.

Watch it at link
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:21 PM
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1. LOL! ok, that was shuedenfreude (sp?)
to see Kristol in a mudsling with Mccain is just...

priceless.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:13 PM
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40. Anyone is showbiz ever tell Nancy Fartenpoofer that she should use
a nmae like Nancy Jones or Nancy Smith instead of Nancy Footenmouther or whatever the hell it is?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:14 PM
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47. Shadenfreude and yes it is..and so predictable
that they accuse anyone who isn't licking their boots, of being ..wait for it:bounce: Ta Da.."Obama Supporter" :silly:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:15 PM
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48. Schadenfreude.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:43 PM
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56. Ooops! Forgot my
"C"..thanks.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:23 PM
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2. TRAITOR!
McCranky threw Kristol under the wheels of the Straight Talk Express!

:rofl:
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:22 PM
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51. "Hate Talk Express"

no longer a "Straight Talk Express"

there are so many under that bus its not even funny
any more.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:42 PM
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58. My bad. You are correct.
That photo in your siggie is grossing me out. :puke:
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:01 AM
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60. It's the "Can't Talk Straight Express"
and has been for some time.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:23 PM
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3. Pfuck Nancy.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:29 PM
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10. ROPFL!
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 12:30 PM by JBoy
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:23 PM
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4. Republican on republican violence
brings a little tear of joy to my eyes : - )))
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:25 PM
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5. WTF? Kristol is the one that helped lobby for Palin! And he's their PNAC connection.
Something smells fishy right now. It was Kristol and the SOuthern Baptist Convention that flung Palin at McCain.

Hmmm...
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:08 PM
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26. And he pushed the "go negative kitchen sink - can't win on economics strategy
just a couple of weeks ago as well. Of course Billy Bob K was an appologist for the "Iraq will be a cakewalk" school of thought also.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:44 PM
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31. Perhaps he wants the campaign to go full on postal - and there's infighting over that?
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 01:45 PM by kineta
Perhaps he wants those who are resisting a full on 'terrorist' smear fired?

Very interesting, indeed.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:12 AM
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61. Yet, according to Nancy Pfotenhauer,
Bill Kristol "has bought into the Obama campaign’s party line."
:crazy:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:26 PM
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6. Wow. This is like Penn vs. Wolfson/Ickes part two.
The Obama machine is a campaign wrecking crew.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:08 PM
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25. I hope so. They need to wreck the whole PNAC crowd, and their policy paper, too.
I hope Obama wrecks their lives, while he's at it.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:27 PM
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53. What do we want? What do we need?
A McCain meltdown inside out.

Obama lets the other side's egos ruin their own campaigns. No Drama Bama.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:26 PM
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7. Bill goes under the bus...........LOL
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:27 PM
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8. Its catching
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:28 PM
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54. kristol just asked them to not be "conventional" that's all..
and he gets thrown under the bus for his effort. I would say they passed "conventional" quite awhile ago.


"It’s time for John McCain to fire his campaign.

He has nothing to lose. His campaign is totally overmatched by Obama’s. The Obama team is well organized, flush with resources, and the candidate and the campaign are in sync. The McCain campaign, once merely problematic, is now close to being out-and-out dysfunctional. Its combination of strategic incoherence and operational incompetence has become toxic. If the race continues over the next three weeks to be a conventional one, McCain is doomed."


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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:28 PM
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9. Wow. Pissing off PNAC Billy! Nice move Pfoooteeetootie
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 12:33 PM by zulchzulu
This should get ugly real soon. She sounded "unhinged".

:rofl:

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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:31 PM
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11. Eating their own....
...it's come down to that, hasn't it? Eat away, folks. You've created this, and now it's reaping time.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:34 PM
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12. One word comes to mind OUCH!!
:rofl:
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:35 PM
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13. Kristol is right.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:41 PM
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17. There's a sentence I never expected to see on DU
Or anywhere else, for that matter.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:47 PM
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18. LOL !!!
:rofl:

So true...

:rofl:

:hi:
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:36 PM
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14. You guys! You forgot to pass the popcorn! LOL!!
:popcorn: :popcorn:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:37 PM
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15. Wasn't Kristol the one who suggested Palin for VP?
If I were McCain,that's what I'd be pissed about.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:38 PM
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16. OH NOESSSSSSS!!!!!!11!!!1! It's Pfluffenutter vs Kristol
Knock-down, drag out! :rofl:
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:52 PM
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19. Won't that statement turn all Bill Kristol lovers
into Obama supporters if they think he is?
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:57 PM
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20. Does everyone know that Pfotenhauer is a German name that means "paw beater"?
Nancy Pawbeater, hammering Kristol's paws for McCain. You can't make this up!

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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:04 PM
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23. what do we really know about pawbeater?
that sounds SCARY! She obviously sees America as flawed...not the way you and I see it. She would bring her paw beaters here in their Nazi uniforms because Nancy Paw Beater is clearly not an American with a name like that!

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:00 PM
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21. Kristol pulling the Obama lines!!
Classic.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:02 PM
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22. Hmm. Kind of like watching a snake and a skunk fight. Don't know whom to root for.
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 01:02 PM by yellowcanine
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:05 PM
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24. Ok quickly, someone ask Nancy Pifflehead when Billy Bob Kristol has been brilliant or even right
about anything? Be sure to take a stopwatch so you can time the long pause.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:17 PM
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27. No time for reflection - oh, so Bush*-like
I don't really expect the McCain-Palin campaign to actually come out in public and admit they've goofed up. That would take a quite a bit of time considering how dysfunctional they are.

Taking that into consideration, they really should try to politely address the issues brought to them by their own RNC base. To do otherwise only further flames the fires, turning their base even further away, and making enemies where you don't want enemies.

McCain still has to go back to the Senate when all is said and done, and Palin - well, who cares, I hope the RNC totally freezes her out. The way McCain's campaign staff has behaved, other politicans may not let them near another campaign for fear they'll screw it up.

Between Bush*, McCain, and the past years of Republican Congresses, the RNC is really hurting. Hurting bad. For once, the RNC actually puts a smile on my face!

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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:28 PM
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28. HAHAHAHA!!!
Can't wait for the Bill Kristol Endorses Obama headline.

:rofl:

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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:38 PM
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29. McCain was the ORIGINAL CHOICE of the neocons in 2000, (before they went with W.)
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 01:39 PM by charles t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:41 PM
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30. Cage fight!
I love to watch Rethuglicans eat one another.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:46 PM
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32. Thank goodness - Kristol's advice was the only hope McCain had
so I'm very glad to see that it's being ignored!

Stay the course, John!!

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:55 PM
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33. Obama's brilliant leadership and organization has taken Democrats out of the circular firing squad.
Now it's Republicans who have taken to sniping at each other and undermining their party... for a long time, one hopes.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 01:59 PM
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34. Nancy Pflupfyernutter is silly
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 02:00 PM by IWantAnyDem
Phluphyernutter is just outright stupid, if you ask me.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:03 PM
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35. Lets take all the Neocons and put them in an arena somewhere.
We'll arm each of them with a sock full of horse shit and let them beat each other to death. We can put it on pay per view and use the money we make to bail out the banks.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:05 PM
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36. Smiley Liar Pfotenauer condemns Smiley Liar Kristol ?
Does the venom of each cancel the other out?
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:06 PM
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37. Awesome! Who hasn't the McCain campaign pissed off lately?
This is getting better and better!

:popcorn:
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:07 PM
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38. So now Kristol is now in the tank for Obama?
Cool. :)

Looks like McCain may end up with Hannity as his only supporter.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:46 PM
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59. Yeah, Kristol's been drinking the Obama kool-aid! That would explain it.
:rofl:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:10 PM
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39. I think Palin is Kristol's 'girl' - and cooler heads in the campaign are reigning her in
There's another post mentioning how downbeat and even sad she seemed at a rally today. My guess is that it's connected.

When he says he wants the campaign to 'start over', he probably means getting rid of the people who aren't 'onboard' with his extremist Rightwing, PNAC, Fundie agenda.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:16 PM
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41. so sad to watch the masters kick the water carriers...
:rofl:
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:03 PM
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42. Or is it the other way around? n/t
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Higher Standard Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:05 PM
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43. The Straight Talk Express is running over a lot of people
The bus must have lots of room underneath for all the people it's throwing there.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:06 PM
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44. ....and they eat their own.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:07 PM
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45. lol!
Christmas coming early....

:rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:11 PM
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46. mccain droolers ARE SO fucking Pathetic..anytime
someone doesn't agree with them they wind up their knob and spit out.."Obama supporter":silly:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:17 PM
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49. What is the McCain campaign supposed to say about Kristol after he calls them pathetic? McCain does
not have time to fire everyone and start over anyway. Besides, he's done that twice before in this campaign.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:18 PM
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50. OMG...LMFAO!!!!
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:23 PM
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52. Much as I hate to say it, Kristol's points were spot on.
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:29 PM
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55. Ha ha ha. I'm really beginning to enjoy this.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 05:45 PM
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57. Rats pushing each other off the sinking ship!!!!
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