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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:51 PM
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Family Member will NOT stop about Obama being racist!
Has anyone else had to dispute this to people?

this is the last email...





"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology This is the encyclopedia’s definition of what Rev. Jeremiah Wright says is Black theology. And of course we have all heard how he feels about white people and America. This is what Obama’s moral belief is no matter what he says (he spends every week in this church with these beliefs). When you are crying because you realize you are making too much and aren’t the right color to receive all these wonderful benefits that Obama claims to want to give you (which by the way he can’t do because you can’t give the kind of health care he suggests without raising your taxes also) you will understand why I get so worked up over this racist. And that is only one of the areas where he talks out of both sides of his mouth (with all racism asside). There are plenty of things I could send that seem to be fact but I don’t believe everything the news or republican website say…you shouldn’t either.

The one thing I do know is that the church you attend speaks volumes about your moral belief and values. You cannot dispute that without saying you don’t believe in what we are learning in church every week at our church.

Also read this: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/march/37.77.html Here is a statement from Dwight N. Hopkins (who Obama believes in).

Just a little food for thought and you have it at your hands (the Bible). Read in Mathew about marriage and relationships (will have to look up the exact paragraphs. It states that a Man should never be with a Man. It states it more definitely in the Bible but without pulling it out right now (which I don’t have time for) I am not sure the true sentence but it speaks very clearly about it.

Heart and Head consists of eight essays that Dwight N. Hopkins presented "at different times and in different contexts," all related to black liberation theology. Hopkins, associate professor of theology at the University of Chicago Divinity School, has published over a dozen titles in the field.

His chapter headings are intriguing: "Black Theology of Liberation and the Impact of Womanist Theology," "The Preferential Option for the Poor and the Oppressed," "Spirituality and Transformation in Black Theology," "A New Black Heterosexual Male," "A Black American Perspective on Interfaith Dialogue in the Ecumenical Association of Third World Theologians," "The Religion of Globalization," "James H. Cone and Thoughts for a New Generation," and "A New Common Wealth."

Following the first generation of black theologians, especially Cone, Hopkins says that for the movement to evolve, black theology must always be linked with the liberation of the poor and oppressed. It should have a continuing link with the prophetic black churches and church-related institutions.

Black theology, he says, must also deliberately unite with womanist theology, cultivating "a prolonged, organized conversation and joining practice between womanists and (male) black theologians." (Womanist refers to the black feminist movement, emphasizing strong, assertive traits.) Black women must be empowered for making decisions in "business ownership, politics, education, religion, the family, and more."

Furthermore, he says, black women must be accepted as pastors, bringing new styles of church leadership.

Hopkins calls for more global interfaith dialogue that would connect multiple versions of liberation theology. Finally, he calls for developing what it means "to be a healthy heterosexual African American man."


This is just a small part of this article but it isn’t truly about freedom of racism it is about freedom of blacks over everyone else. You notice even when talking about womanist theology, they are only talking about BLACK woman.

I can give you many facts on issues and the people he connects himself to in his personal life but his own religiouse beliefs should be enough for you not to vote for him even if you don’t vote for McCain



She won't stop about this... Any good responses? I'm not sure how to respond. I know she is a lost cause but at the same time I don't want no response to mean that she is right
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:52 PM
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1. Cancel the election
When the mainstream media hears about this, the election is over.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:52 PM
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2. Sorry. I don't know what to tell you.
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 02:59 PM by liberalmuse
Except maybe have her read the Wikipedia on Emmett Till. That might give her some perspective. This was not an isolated incident, but what blacks in the South and elsewhere could expect at any time. Imagine having to live with that shit? I have no sympathy for the likes of your stupid ignorant relative. There are plenty of people who made it a point to educate themselves and who had much less opportunity than your relative, who CHOOSES to be a fucking racist asshole.

I'm sick of apologizing to the fascist wing of the right. Reverend Wright speaks the truth. Some people don't want to hear it, and think he's anti-American, but those who criticize their country the most usually love it the most.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:53 PM
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3. Not once. The people I talk to are not so ignorant. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:53 PM
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4. Please delete this. I have always been in doubt of your concerns.....


Send it to Barack Obama's watchdog email address over at Fight the smears!

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:00 PM
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20. Ditto.....
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:53 PM
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5. can't you just call them and ask them to knock off the bullshit, it's not that difficult, fuck i'll
call them for you.

They aren't voting for Obama no matter what so why let this bs get to you?
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Whalestoe Donating Member (928 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:54 PM
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6. I don't get what she is saying is racist?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:54 PM
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7. Send this to watchdog@barackobama.com. They will reply
with a response. As a matter of fact, they'll reply to all the people on the original email list.

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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:54 PM
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8. fwd this to fight the smears
there is an email address watchdog@barackobama.com, that you can fwd the email to and they can craft a response for you.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:55 PM
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9. CUT. ASSHOLE. OFF.
It's not that complicated.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:55 PM
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10. Write back and say
This is crazy talk. I'm voting Obama, and he is going to win, so you might as well
get used to it.

If you want to get mean say.. you are crazy, get over it.. President Obama
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:56 PM
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11. Here's my response: shut the fuck up
Tell her that, because nothing else will work.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:56 PM
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12. ASK THEM HOW A MAN WHO'S HALF BLACK, HALF WHITE CAN BE RACIST.
His grandparents and mother who raised him are white. Could *you* be be bigoted against your own mother and grandmother?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:57 PM
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13. and Stop Coddling Assholes.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:57 PM
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14. "People with opinions just go around annoying other people with opinions."
--The Buddha

Put her on ignore. You won't change her mind. Ever. There's no point whatsoever in getting high blood pressure over it.

As composer Arthur Rubinstein said: "Of course there is no formula for success except perhaps an
unconditional acceptance of life and what it brings."

When it rains, smile and accept the rain. Any other response is pointless. When you're stuck in traffic, smile and accept your situation. Any other response is pointless. When you get hateful emails, smile and click "delete". Any other response is pointless.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:57 PM
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15. White people cry racism so they're absolved of being racists themselves.
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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:59 PM
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17. good idea about sending it to Obama's campaign....
I will write what they reply back.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:58 PM
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16. When it comes to family
You will often not be able to make much ground in getting them to change their thinking. And what they say can hurt more than just a stranger's opinion. You should give up and quit getting upset by their words.
Agree to disagree until after the election, because family is more important than an election to you personally.
I have had years of disagreements with family members, and now realize, too late, that it is wrong to get involved in political discussions with them when we disagree.
You don't have to have the last word, either. Let it go. Let it go.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:59 PM
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18. God forbid they try to restore FAMILY structures
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 03:00 PM by votesomemore
to the inner city! OH NO. Can't go having black men being heads of families!

:wtf: If this is a problem, then they really don't require an answer from a DU member. We are above that.

But send it to the watchdog. What a great idea.
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:59 PM
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19. Tell her not to send you racist lies anymore.
If she keeps sending this stuff, block her. Simple as that.

I don't get emails like this from the racists who are related to me because they know they won't get a good response. They'll either get roundly mocked, or they'll get shamed into admitting they're wrong, or they'll be called what they are -- racists.

You are not required to engage in dialogue with this person, period. Cut her off.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:01 PM
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21. Wikipedia is NOT an encyclopedia!
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:01 PM
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22. When blacks want to build up their community it is racist. When other ethnic groups do it ..
it is "living the American Dream".
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:02 PM
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23. He isn't racist
and your family member doesn't care about the truth or they would have paid attention to who he is and checked several sources. Besides he's biracial, which half of his lineage is he racist against?
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:06 PM
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24. Tell her you don't send her Godless McCain the Adulterer Born in Panama
kind of malicious gossip emails, and ask her to return the favor.

OR

Tell her Ms. Palin thinks the Iraq war was a mission from God.

OR

Ms. Palin had herself blessed with protection from witchcraft so that she could run with a sinner adulterer thief like McCain and still be clean for the Rapture.

OR

Remind her that the Obama campaign runs negative ads about McHate's policies and plans, like taxing your medical benefits, not smears on his character (even though he has committed adultery and chosen a running mate whose husband belonged to an organization advocating secession from the union.)

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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:13 PM
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25. Send your relative a pizza.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:55 PM
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26. I don't talk to my relatives who are into this shit
Cut them out of my lives, one is even a sister. I don't need to hold my tongue at family dinners because I don't go where 'big bad me' will call the little bitches on their shit. I don't play that. Let them suck up to me and play guilt games. Fuck 'em. My parents and favorite grandma( who were wonderful D's)are gone now and my other D sister is still a friend. I take 'em where I can get 'em. Otherwise, I never asked to be born into my family, so I shouldn't have to validate their miserable existence for the sake of a few chromosones..


I have friends who are closer than many members of my family. Perhaps you are focusing in the wrong place.
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