I call on Gov Dean to condemn these tactics

[TrueAmerican]

Please Gov Dean come out against these types of tactics your so-called supporters are using against General Clark.

Oh, I forgot, you already did when the shoe was on the other foot.

[cthrumatrix]

1. you should make that call to Rove first...

[TrueAmerican]

8. I didn't want to believe Pete Rose bet on baseball

But sometimes you have to face reallity.

[Padraig18]

2. A second DUPE

You can't just start a new thread on the same subject because you feel like it. :eyes:

[TrueAmerican]

5. No, I am addressing Gov Dean

I want him to condemn these type of tactics.

[Padraig18]

7. Whatever

this IS a dupe--trust me.

"6. You may not start a new discussion thread in order to continue a current or recent flame war from another thread. The moderators have the authority to lock threads in order to contain flaming on a particular topic to only one thread at a time."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3

[Hep]

3. You say "these tactics" and you don't even list or explain them

Why am I not the least bit surprised?

[heidler]

9. I think it's time for Dean to say Clark is not on my VP list.

This whole con---test is a tit for tat food fight and Clark is playing just as much as Lieberman. Joe just looks a little more stupid doing it. Of course Dean as the undisputed front runner is the main target.

[Hep]

17. That should be a given

I thought it was well known that Clark isn't on the ticket and won't be. I just figured it was hard for some folks to let go here.

[LuminousX]

4. Can I see a copy of the flyer?

[xultar]

6. Fine $10 donation to General Clark...PM the contribution # to me

There's no proof it is Dean supporters, furthermore, Puhleez I don't think Dean supporters would do that. It's too silly and obvious.

[Walt Starr]

11. Fine $20 donation to the Sharpton campaign

:evilgrin:

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. Dean supporters have

harassed Clark campaigners on the streets of NY, they are the only supporters of a candidate to heckle a candidate at the Florida Democratic Convention while giving his speech...CLARK and a car load of Dean supporters gave the finger to a Clark supporter when he was in NH putting up Clark signs. Those things are obvious too. They did this. Mark my word. I can't wait to hear them defend it when they see the flyer. I can't WAIT to hear the excuses.

[el_gato]

10. watching phoney outrage is like

being witness to a car wreck

interesting in a sick kind of way

[TrueAmerican]

12. Yup, it was pretty sad when Dean did it

You'll got to admit.

[Loonman]

13. Dean whines and whines about attacks

Then goes on the attack himself.


:eyes:

What a maroon.

[Padraig18]

16. Some proof would be nice.

Unless one just happens to be a FAN of lynchings. Wouldn't you agree?

[_NorCal_D_]

20. Here you go Padraig:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=76568&mesg_id=76744&page= B-)

[Padraig18]

23. Proof about the FLYER, brah...

That is what this second dupe thread is allegedly about...

[heidler]

34. Clark pretends to be above the fray, but snipes away.

There is no pureity in campaining except to win.

[bowens43]

14. What tactics?

[mouse7]

15. I doubt freerepublic.com will let Dean post the request.

I'm sure Dean would love to go to freeperland and ask the freepers to stop stirring up crap in the the Democratic primaries, but RimJob would probably immediately delete anything Gov. Dean's posted and ban him within minutes.

[MuseRider]

18. First we must see proof

however from past experience it is not difficult to believe. When I see proof and if indeed it is from the Dean campaign I will send Clark 10 bucks. Also from past experience Gov. Dean will give a small apology when hardly anyone is listening and continue on with the disingenuous information. This is politics, down and dirty. Too bad he can't seem to "play fair and nice" but we will see, this does sound like Rove.

[mouse7]

21. They already quoted false campaign org tags on other thread

The fliers were quoted on the other thread as being tagged "Paid for by Howard Dean for Pres" and "Paid for by The Dean Campaign."

Anything official would be tagged "Paid for by Dean For America"

It's not the Clark campaign doing it for pity press. Clark's people aren't dumb enough to screw up the Dean for America tagline.

The only people who would go to this much troble and fuck up the job so bad are freepers.

[MuseRider]

26. You are probably

right about that. It is difficult for me to not immediately assume this is Dean because it is just more of the same but the time has come to really try to stay cool since the Republicans are now gearing up and will be out for all of them.

[eyesroll]

30. I haven't seen this flyer, but you are correct about the tag

I did a quick search of the FEC's records site:
(http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/fecimg/index.html)
"Dean for America" appears to be the only authorized committee supporting Howard Dean. (The only other committees with "Dean" in the name are for other candidates named Dean, a Dean Foods PAC, etc.)

"The Dean Campaign" does not exist, according to the FEC. "Howard Dean for Pres" does not exist.

The "Paid for" tag lists the name of the committee responsible for the publication. (It doesn't guarantee that it actually came from the committee -- I could type "Paid for by Dean for America" on my magazine masthead. It wouldn't make it true. But everything official coming from a campaign that took 10 minutes to read the rules will have a proper disclosure on it.)
Assuming the flyer does indeed say "paid for by The Dean Campaign," one of two things is happening:
1. An unauthorized, unregistered committee,either supporting Howard Dean or opposing Wes Clark, is doing the flyers.
2. Someone is trying to make Howard Dean look bad.

On edit: A third :tinfoilhat: possibility...Someone directly involved in Dean for America decided they really, really wanted that message spread, but got shot down by Trippi, et. al., put a fake tag on their flyer and it WAS really being paid for by DFA but they needed to cover their tracks somehow so they made it look just so awful that it HAD to be fake...

(Just covering my bases here...)

[Cheswick2.0]

24. really? I heard it was really the Kucinich campaign

If I am wrong I will send CMB 10 bucks

[MuseRider]

29. LOL! Really sounds like

him doesn't it? Please do send her some money, she needs it and it would be wonderful to have her as our next president!

[heidler]

33. Great testimonial for Dean if he can out Rove Rove

What happened to all of the Dean will melt crap?

[Cheswick2.0]

19. I call on Clark to pledge he won't beat his wife anymore

:eyes:

[HFishbine]

22. Does Clark Have Any Sway With His Former Boss?

I'd like to hear Clark condemn his former boss for funding the recent anti-Dean Club for Growth TV ads. That would be classy.

[Cheswick2.0]

25. Oh, THESE TACTICS... I am sure he will

when he does will you post apologies for using them?

[jmaier]

27. Perhaps you should

write to Gov Dean or Joe Trippi rather than making a futile public post at DU with your 'demand.' Just my $.02.




Wes Clark. He will make an extraordinary American President.

[TrueAmerican]

31. Okay, sending the letter now

Let's see if I get a response.

[John_H]

32. Excellent Point! Remember Dean Supporters?

When whoever didn't express outrage about the Osama ads was behind them? Will you be consistent? Well?

[Padraig18]

35. I call on Papa John's for a Hawaiian pizza!

What an UTTERLY ridiculous DUPE thread!

:eyes:

[Skinner]

36. This is flame bait.

I'm locking.

Skinner
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