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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:17 AM Original message |
Gays have earned a cabinet spot |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have to disagree that ANYONE earned a Cabinet Post based on... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. I would LOVE Barney Frank to be given a post |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. barney for senator from MA if kerry takes an administration job nt |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. Or |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. Barney FRank betrayed LGBT community when he dropped transgender from ENDA |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Barney betrayed the entire country |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. nonsense. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. Agreed. But also there has got to be some way the Obama Administration can stop prop-8 like |
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FatherTime1408 (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
5. I hope you're wrong. It should be about finding the most qualified person... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. then Kissenger for SOS he was SOS for longer than anyone currently alive |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Kissinger? Huh? Aside from the fact that the man doesn't look too healthy.... |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
87. Isn't he also wanted for questioning internationally for war crimes? |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. Hell of a qualification there |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. I and many others can argue that Kissinger isn't the most qualified. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
99. Big difference between qualification and experience |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
54. Kissinger |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
90. Along with |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
76. Kissinger's gay? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
6. So how does Obama know the nominee is "gay"? Is there a check off box on the application? |
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FatherTime1408 (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Exactly. We're not supposed to be discriminating based on this stuff, right? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. the same way he knows that Hillary is straight |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
100. Chances are, someone on his cabinet will be gay |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
8. oh, for fuck's sake. NO ONE AND NO GROUP IS OWED A CABINET POSITION |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. particular people, no |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. no sorry. that's just wrong. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. No unless someone was put there who had no specific knowledge of transportation |
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FatherTime1408 (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Your picks aren't the problem, the problem I have is... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I agree with that. Bush did ONLY that, which is why he was able to put unqualified evil people |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Yep |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Exactly. |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
89. If that's what Cabinets are about - then it's something else that needs to CHANGE. |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
101. By OP's logic, the rest of us should consider it just when Republican |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
14. No, the person most qualified for the post has "earned" the cabinet spot. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
15. No identity politics please. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. True. Our country is now a patient in a hospital. Repukes ruined our country. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Yes. Bush has screwed us so bad. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I agree with you. We must never allow that again nt |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
20. Not another post on Bush cronyism carried over to Obama's administration |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. If you have the qualifications of the people mentioned in the post |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. But the key quailfication seems to be openly gay (or black, female or a loyal supporter) |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. and I don't apologize for that |
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Christian30 (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
26. It would be great to have a gay person... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
28. Can't agree with you here. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
29. So, you support nepotism rather than a meritocracy? SORRY. |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
31. I'm gay, and I totally disagree with you. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
32. Enough of identity politics pls |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. GrovelBot, I think you would be better suited in a fundraising position with the DNC. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
35. Why do all the straights here think there are no qualified gay people for any cabinet post? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. It's not a matter of "qualified," it's a matter of "the absolute most qualified person in America." |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. why do YOU put words in the mouths of others? |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. This post is inflammatory bullshit at its worst. Are you TRYING to cause division? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. I don't see anyone saying that. I'm a lesbian and I strongly disagree with the OP. |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. WTH? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
61. The OP is offensive to anyone chosen to be in the cabinet |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
88. No fears here. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
37. As a GLBT-American, I am firmly opposed to tokenism. nt |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. It's funny to see "progressives" suddenly fretting over "unqualified minorities" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Yes, all progressives were wholeheartedly in support of tokenism two months ago. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Who said anything about tokenism? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I don't think anyone is opposed to that, but that isn't what the OP is about. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. that;'s not what people are objecting too. They're objecting to the |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Didn't we get over this shit |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. You honestly think that there are no GLBT possibilities for cabinet slots |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. One thing has nothing to do with the other. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. that;'s not what people are objecting too. They're objecting to the |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
41. Barney Frank: Secretary of Teh Gay |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
44. You want the best people, period.. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
45. Have confidence in Obama. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
46. Cabinets aren't about getting the most qualified people...They are about rewarding your supporters? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
52. Aaaaah! I would vastly prefer to have equal human rights than a symbolic appointment. |
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alwysdrunk (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. What does being gay bring to any of the positions you list? |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
58. This shouldn't be a spoils system. |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
63. NO one earns a cabinet spot |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
65. but, but, but ... I thought Rove had a cabinet position? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
67. you would never have known reading this place |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. We voted 70 to 27 for Obama |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. more bullshit coming from you. Quelle surprise. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. very racist stuff |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. I didn't say that and you are a liar for saying I did |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. You just said it again. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. You said "blacks took away our rights" |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. I didn't bring it up he did |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. don't forget that Obama palled around with terrorists, too. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. fine us racist gays who voted for the man are disgusting |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I wonder how rastafarians voted? |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. They voted "legalize it, mon!" |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Better yet, how did the pastafarians vote? |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
68. I disagree with this thinking. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
72. So, genius, how many cabinet spots does Obama owe Jews? |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Well, the Latinos will get a Secretary of State, hopefully |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. I will give $100 to the charity of your choice if any of the groups |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #82 |
104. How will you know there's not already a gay among his choices |
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Tallison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #72 |
103. Don't forget single Wiccan mothers! |
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Veruca Salt (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
80. Uh, no. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
91. Quid Pro Quo is wrong. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
92. It is my deepest hope that every cabinet position is filled based on qualifications, not cronyism. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Exactly |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
93. NO ONE EARNED A CABINET POST BASED UPON SEXUAL PREFERENCE. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
95. John Kerry did better among gay and lesbian voters than Obama |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
96. how about a black lesbian jewish person |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
97. I posted about this a few weeks ago and I was all but laughed at. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #97 |
102. I would think that bush's practice of rewarding loyalists with cabinet |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. I'm sorry. n/t |
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