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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 05:55 PM
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Buchanan on Tweety: "this is the last roll of the dice"
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 05:56 PM by DCBob
In reference to the the latest tactics we are using to stop the hemorrhaging of the economy. I know Pat's a nut sometimes but what he said today is freaking me out. What is disturbing is that we don't have a "real" President now. America needs a "fireside" chat from President Obama to calm us down. Bush simply can't do it.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 05:58 PM
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1. I think it's probably more frightening than most of us know.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:00 PM
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2. Very possible -- which is even more disturbing.
These next few months are going to be "interesting".
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:00 PM
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3. Fineman: "We only have one President, so that means now we have none." Scary indeed.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:02 PM
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4. The US teeters on the brink,and no one is in charge.
Charming.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:37 PM
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19. Mimmmmmmmmmmm, pretty sure it's same as before but just a little more obvious now
Nothing to worry about when you are standing on solid earth because the only thing below is hell all by itself :shrug:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:05 PM
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5. Yes, that was a profound statement as well by Howard.
This could be a mess.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:05 PM
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6. Oh my, did Fineman really say that?
That sounds like something someone here would say, but coming from Howard, yikes! :scared:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:06 PM
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7. Yes.
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onefreespiritedchick Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:56 PM
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13. OMG really? n/t
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:16 PM
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8. Bush is clueless, and Paulson is the worst Treasury Secretary
since the Teapot Dome scandal. What worries me is that we are told that Gaithner has been "coordinating" with Paulson.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:57 PM
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21. If you read more, you'll be less concerned.
Geithner has been involved in performing triage on the already broken financial institutions. He has managed through both Fed actions and working with the Treasury to avoid a true calamity such as a major deposit-holding bank failing outright with the FDIC unable to make good on its deposits. There really was no stopping some of this once it got rolling. We do have significant tools to mitigate the damage. No one will lose their deposits at least.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:18 PM
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9. I would prefer that Mr. Obama take cues from FDR in terms of getting this nation back to work.
But he's too influenced by Lincoln now--by the way the MSM tells it.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:29 PM
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10. Leave Shrub alone!!
He's busy doing meaningless interviews with every media outlet on earth trying to "convince" all of us that nothing, absolutely nothing, is his fault!!!!!!!!!

:sarcasm:

:puke:

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:42 PM
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11. Buchanan's record of being wrong is more frightening......
and you listening to anything he has to say and giving it credence, now that's frightening! :scared:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:34 PM
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15. True dat, but Fineman and Tweety were backing him up...
up to a point.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:44 PM
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12. Bring Back The Fireside Chats!
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 07:49 PM by Dinger


I like the idea:)


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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:01 PM
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14. Yes, we could use the warmth!
:)
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 11:01 PM
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24. I'd like it better if someone were roasting on a spit over the fire.
Who to begin with? :freak:
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:52 PM
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16. "Calm us down" Are you really out of control, freaked out, ready to go crazy...you
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 09:06 PM by LaPera
need to hear it from someone else....what could Obama possibly say that will make you "calm" down....that everything will be alright now go to sleep? I don't see anyone panicking...just fucking pissed off that the republicans and their deregulation did exactly as they planned, to make their outrageous corporate profits for the rich, bankrupt the country and then depend on juicy bailouts from the workers taxes....We knew BushCo was up to this for eight years, (all republicans ideology is about corporatism over the workers)....Who could possibly be surprised by the state of the economy after the republicans have been in power?

And what can Obama do....he doesn't even know the full story yet and how bad it really is until he takes office, (just as President Clinton didn't know how bad until he took office after republicans Reagan & Bush) these republican lie & never give the facts or the full story and then blame the Dems when it comes out and the Dems are stuck with it.

So, you want Obama to do what, make a speech without knowing all the facts, to give false assurances, to and for whom? So they can sleep better at night....Most despise false assurances, we want to know the facts, because it'll inevitably comes out anyway and then we aren't freaked or shocked when it does....who wants to live with false assurances?

It's going to get bad and it's going to hurt a lot of people, the republicans and rich stole theirs as they always do....

I'm sure you don't want to hear lies, that all will be fine with a sweet and happy ending? It's going to get ugly & rough, just as the republicans always leave it, purposely!
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:05 PM
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17. Much of this financial crisis is psychological and emotional.
A President that is confident and reassuring can help.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:21 PM
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18. No it's not, it's real dollars...trillions that are being discussed....I hardly think
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 09:29 PM by LaPera
some people that are upset and not aware this was going to occur talking to them is going to make a difference in the outcome....Do these people live with blinders on, or in a caves....it was easy to see coming for anyone who cared....hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts for the rich & corporations, while spending over ten billion dollars each & every month for years on wars for profit, increasing our national debt to over 10 trillion dollars, sending good American jobs over seas, allowing the oil companies to rob us blind at the pumps, giving billions of workers tax dollars to profitable corporations (corporate welfare) while cutting workers wages, benefits & pensions, phony accounting by the corporations to inflate their market value, housing and loans just running wild with no regulations just as the republicans have been working to get all these years....who in the fuck didn't see this coming...moderates with their heads in the sand and now they want comforting from whom? Obama? He doesn't even know the full extent of how bad the republicans have raped us....do they really want false reassurance, do they really want to live with their head in the sand? Thar's what I'm stunned about....

Just look around and the bullshit the MSM media is telling us to keep watching for us to "turn the corner" on this recession....talk about bullshit "confident and reassuring" all one has to do is pay attention and they will know we are in for unfortunately for us, a long & rough & tough ride.

I certainly don't want to hear it from some stranger, some politician, or some made up god! I really believe only moderates who pay little attention and get their info from television are the ones who are amazed this is occuring and freaked by it and I suppose don't know what to do unless someone tells them.
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tledford Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:49 PM
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20. Yes, it is real, and it is real money. It's just such an enormous amount that it SEEMS unreal.
Hindsight is 20/20, of course, but it is clear that the current financial situation is the calculated result of policies deliberately put in place beginning in January of 1981. This is EXACTLY where Ronnie Raygun wanted to go.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 10:08 PM
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22. This is the worst year I've had...
...since raygun was in office. All the construction people are saying pretty much the same thing: worst year they've had in 20 years.

It is the same old story. The pubbies raise federal spending creating a bubble that eventually pops. Well, it popped.

Really, the only solution is to make the rich become middle class, by hook or by crook.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:28 AM
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26. Of course it real money but much of cause is a decline in sales related to consumer confidence.
A President that can reassure people can help bring this confidence back. Bush is incapable of doing this and Obama is not POTUS yet. Therein lies the problem.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 10:08 PM
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23. pat's political way of life is dead.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:34 AM
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27. Not just political but the entire modern way of life may be dead.
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 03:35 AM by DCBob
This crisis could lead to a massive economic and societal breakdown.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 11:33 PM
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25. Grover Norquist got his.
He and his cohorts wanted government drowned in the bathtub -- all entitlements gone; the New Deal gone; every kind of regulation rolled back decades.

The timing is close. We're broke just when the boomers reach Social Security and Medicare age. The worst of the economy will come just about the time the troops are home from Iraq so they can keep us from taking revenge in the streets.
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