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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:25 PM
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Hillary Clinton will carry out the President's Will Internationally... Hillary is a fantastic pick..
Hillary Clinton will make a FANTASTIC Secretary of State.











The former First Lady of Arkansas, Two Term First Lady of the United States, Two Term United States Senator, and soon to be Secretary of State of the United States of America has been around the block and back and will make a VERY formidable negotiator on the world stage.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:32 PM
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1. Exactly how many threads do we need telling us how
spectacularly wonderful and amazing Hillary is? 72? 344?

:eyes:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:34 PM
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2. I do believe we had just as many threads proclaiming Hillary was "ineligible"
And that she is a backstabber.

And that she is the epitome of DLC.

And that she will "obliterate" Iran on "day one."




Let the folks who like Senator Clinton have a day.

Jeez.



:eyes:
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:37 PM
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3. A day?
Just a DAY? You might want to go back several days.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:37 PM
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4. It was announced and official today.
There were several "denial" threads over the weekend.

Sadly, they have been locked.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:39 PM
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6. We were talking about threads, not when it was made official.
Nevermind. Just gonna start hiding these things again.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:48 PM
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9. The next one is Bill for her Senate Seat
expect that one for the next 10 days for the Drama to continue.

Listen, I thought Obama has a great team
and never said I didn't want her as SOS.
I never thought she wasn't on the list by Obama.

I personally liked Obama, Biden and Susan Rice's statement today.

No one covered Biden's statement today and I thought that
was just as relevant and has been ignored by the media and DU.

I thought it said a lot about Obama.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:38 PM
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5. Beautiful pictures.
Thank you. What an exciting era to live in. I'm looking forward to next year for the first time in bloody ages!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:39 PM
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7. I know. I'm so excited.
:bounce:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:42 PM
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8. Hillary Clinton will go down in history as a GREAT secretary of state!
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 09:42 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
Compared with that scuzzbucket, Bush-butt-licking, a-hole, Rice, who doesn't even have respect for herself, Hillary will be indeed a breath of fresh air!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 11:06 PM
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10. I love seeing the two of them together
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 11:06 PM by Harvey Korman
She'll be a great SOS for the Obama Administration.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 11:27 PM
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11. I Think Hillary Needs A Boring Bureaucrat Type As Her Deputy To Be Successful
Hillary brings a lot of prestige and intellect to the position of Secretary of State. However, as this article notes, Hillary's management skills are not reassuring. The most prominent issue, as noted in the Atlantic article regarding the inside operations of her campaign, is that she did not keep her surrogates and staff on the same page with Patti Solis Doyle, Mark Penn and Harold Ickles all going to war with each other in a tri-partite conflict in which Hillary expressed frustration with the conflict, but did not actively resolve it (the Atlantic article notes during one contentious phone call, Hillary just hung up the phone).

I think Hillary can be effective IF she has a Deputy who will focus on the day to day management that Hillary and Obama can trust. Hillary is at her best when she is focusing on big themes and the big picture, but I don't see her as a person who can actively mediate warring factions with her staff. Indeed, I think Hillary likes high achievers with huge egos (Ickles and Penn), which tends to increase the level of conflict in her staff.

So, Hillary and Obama need to resist the urge to appoint another foreign policy big name who would be somewhat redundant of Hillary, and choose a relative ego-free bureacrat who is willing to quietly focus on the management of the State Department while Hillary focuses on the Big Picture, and dealing with major foreign policy issues.

Just because Hillary is brilliant, and I do think she is brilliant, does not make her a good manager, and I frankly think she is drawn to the high achieving big ego types, which is what doomed her campaign. Hillary needs a no-non-sense bureacrat to run the State Department. Richard Holbrooke is not that person. Let Holbrooke be an adviser, but don't give him the day to day management.

This Newsweek article and the Atlantic article on Hillary's campaign illustrate Hillary's strengths and weaknesses. Hopefully, Hillary has learned and goes for boring, but effective as a Deputy.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/171569
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:40 AM
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12. Eh
Hardly the most qualified person for the job.

Hardly the least.

A purely political pick.

We deserved better from Obama.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:33 PM
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13. I agree, she'll do a great job.
Great pics, thanks!!

:D
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