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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:21 PM
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What's Really at Stake in Georgia's Senate Runoff
TIME: What's Really at Stake in Georgia's Senate Runoff
By Michael Grunwald
Tuesday, Dec. 02, 2008

Some political observers think Tuesday's Senate runoff in Georgia is a big deal, because a victory by underdog Jim Martin over incumbent Republican Saxby Chambliss would keep alive the Democratic Party's dreams of a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority to move its agenda successfully through the Senate....But really, there's no such thing as a "filibuster-proof 60-seat majority," even if Martin pulls off an upset and Al Franken wins his recount against Republican Norm Coleman in Minnesota and Joe Lieberman still counts as a Democrat. Senators don't always vote in partisan lockstep; President Obama could succeed in recruiting Republicans on some issues with a 58-seat Democratic majority, and he could find himself stymied by defections on some issues with a 62-seat Democratic majority. In the Senate, even one determined naysayer is capable of grinding the institution to a halt.

And that's why the Martin-Chambliss race actually is a big deal: Chambliss is a textbook Bush-Cheney Republican — and every vote counts. Sixty seats would be better for the Democrats than 59, which would be better for the Democrats than 58. Six years is also a long time. In fact, Georgia is still an extremely conservative state, so if Chambliss can win at a time when the Republican Party is at its lowest ebb, he can probably hold his seat as long as he wants — which would be good news for Bush-style Republicans and bad news for Obama-style Democrats, no matter who is in power.

On the other hand, a Martin surprise in this deep-red state would be a crowning embarrassment for the GOP. It would rival Obama's own victory as a repudiation of the Bush agenda of tax cuts for the rich, pork for the well-connected, belt-tightening for the working poor, drill-baby-drill, strict-construction judges and military adventurism — not to mention the political cynicism that made Chambliss notorious after his ads in 2002 comparing his opponent, triple-amputee Max Cleland, to Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein....

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Like many Republicans in Washington, Chambliss has trumpeted the idea that the GOP's electoral difficulties are the result of insufficient conservatism, and can only be reversed by a stronger defense of traditional values and more consistent opposition to government spending....

That's one more reason today's runoff is a big deal. A Chambliss victory would not send much of a message to the nation; it would just confirm the obvious fact that Georgia is more conservative than the nation. But it could reinforce the dangerous message that recent electoral results have been sending to Republicans. GOP moderates like Connecticut congressman Christopher Shays and GOP pragmatists like North Carolina gubernatorial candidate Pat McCrory keep losing, while most Republican survivors have been conservatives from conservative districts and conservative states. So the party keeps looking more like Chambliss, and moving further in his direction -- even more white, even more to the right, even more eager to fight.

It's a defensible electoral strategy — if you're trying to win elections in the Deep South. But the rest of the country isn't likely to embrace Chambliss any more than it has embraced Bush.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1863231,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner
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RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:42 PM
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1. a big deal for GA
I voted for Martin this morning, but I don't see him pulling this one out. Hope I'm wrong.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:45 PM
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2. So let Chambliss win here. Let them move more towards the crazy.
Whatever keeps them out of the big seats.


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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:40 PM
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3. Conservative ???
Really ???

A Chambliss victory would not send much of a message to the nation; it would just confirm the obvious fact that Georgia is more conservative than the nation.


Conservatism has nothing to do w/ how these folks think. STUPID, seems to be the operative word here. :evilfrown:
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