Greta Van Sustern: Pimping Palin and Trying to Stick Sexism on Democratic Males

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has anyone noticed that lately Greta has been pimping Palin. She has been running the post-election interviews and commentary on Fox. It is almost as if she has Sarah's talking points and a mission to broadcast them.

Also, she has been taking Democratic male politicians to task for so-called "sexist" charges where no sexism really exists aka her commentary on Rendell and her pseudo post.

I think Greta is trying to push a meme that the Democrats are really no better than Republicans in terms of sexism. I think that she is trying to turn the focus from Obama's revolutionary appointments in terms of promoting women in heavily dominated male areas of national security and defense towards "gotcha" remarks that are twisted out of context.

John Coale, her husband, was a Hillary supporter and threw his support to McCain.

To my knowledge, Greta has never been pro ERA or pro Feminist. There is something really bizarre about flogging the disappearing cheesecakes and then talking about sexism. I mean when has Greta talked about substantive legal issues on the Violence Against Women Act or ERA or media portrayals of women?

[spanone]

1. i will never watch that channel

[GarbagemanLB]

2. I just don't like how she can't show any emotion due to the excessive plastic surgery.

She's a hack.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

34. Really though

Didn't she have that plastic surgery on her face to get on Fox in the first place? If so, what kind of person takes a job under the condition they get plastic surgery because their prospective employer thinks they are too ugly to be seen? Poor woman looks awful now, and knows it, and on top of that has to work there to pay off the surgeons bills. Talk about sexism!

[atimetocome]

35. No, according to this she did it cause she wanted to:

Nothing wrong with that.




http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,623479,00.html


Why Greta Had Plastic Surgery
Before kicking off her new Fox News Channel show, "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren," the newswoman gets her eyes done, and tells all to PEOPLE.

By Stephen M. Silverman

Originally posted Thursday February 07, 2002 12:15 PM EST
Faced with a month off between jobs, TV newswoman Greta Van Susteren, whose new look is the subject of PEOPLE's latest cover story, was lounging in her three-bedroom stone house in Washington, D.C. Suddenly she looked up from her Sunday paper and asked John Coale, her husband of 14 years, "Do you think I should get rid of these bags under my eyes?" Coale, an attorney, was startled. "We had never talked about it," he told the magazine. "Greta always looks like she's 25 to me." But three days later the pair visited a D.C. surgeon to explore the ins and out of blepharoplasty, commonly known as an eye-lift. "You have to realize this was not a huge decision," Van Susteren tells PEOPLE, "not like choosing a law school." Rather, with the start of her new job a month away (as host of Fox News Channel's "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren"), she decided, she says, to do something just for her: "I just did it on a whim. It's the first time since I was 17 that I had a month off and no responsibilities." She was also facing her 30th high school reunion in Wisconsin this summer. "I looked at myself and thought, 'God, how did I get to be 47?' "

[Boudica the Lyoness]

39. Please read my post again.

I was asking the question..if she had the face lift to be on Fox. I wasn't sure if that was the reason.

Just because someone who works for Fox news says something it doesn't make it true.

Have you ever noticed that Fox generally has women on there who are a little above average in looks, although they seem below average in IQ? I bet poor old Greta had that on her mind in a big way at that time. Greta is a really awful person with or with out that horrible face lift.

[atimetocome]

40. Whatever her reason

it is here business.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

41. She can do what she wants with her face.

I don't really care. I have no problem with plastic surgery to make a person feel better about themselves. My problem with her is the rubbish coming out of her mouth.
Do you like her?

[atimetocome]

42. I seldom watch the cable 'news' PBS is more my style.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

43. I have just take a peek at Fox now and again

because we're winning now and I like to see their reaction. PBS is a far better news source than Fox.

[atimetocome]

45. I like the analysis that PBS does. Most of the cable are just pundits.

[alwysdrunk]

62. I'm surprised so many people here refuse to watch Fox.

I watch it regularly, but never as a source of News. I like keeping up with what the latest RW bullshit spin is. I listen carefully to how they frame things. It's very interesting to hear Republican politicians using the same language that Fox "reporters" used just a few days prior.

[SpiralHawk]

3. Typical republicon propaganda projection

van Sustern and the other republicon propagandists should be ashamed of themselves for their wholesale perversions of truth in bended-knee service to Republicon Homelanderism.

[Dappleganger]

4. Scientology nuts never make any sense.

[Fridays Child]

8. Bingo. We're talking about someone who's been brainwashed to believe in a science fiction hoax.

eom

[boppers]

59. The thing about scientology...

"If you believe something is true, then it is".

In a nutshell (pardon the phrase), that's the fundamental flaw in their philosophy.

[Beacool]

5. Of course Greta is wrong, there was NO sexism exhibited

during the primaries and GE. Yeah, right.........

:eyes:

[GarbagemanLB]

6. Just as there was NO racism.

:eyes:

[Beacool]

13. True too.

;)

[cap]

10. Yeah, Greta was AWOL on Hillary getting beaten up

[Beacool]

14. Also true, but far more disappointing was the party leadership ignoring it.

I'll never forget Dean's remarks (after Hillary conceded and he received hundreds of complaints about the sexism during the primaries), that he had never noticed it because he didn't watch much cable TV. I guess he only noticed racism since he was quick to point out that any reference to Rev. Wright would be considered race baiting.

How about Pelosi, when did she show even a modicum of solidarity as a fellow woman and as Speaker of the House? The only thing that she did was furiously work the phones to call superdelegates for Obama and mention on 5 separate occasions that there shouldn't be a "dream ticket". Ditto comments from Kennedy (the guy who ran against a sitting president of his own party) and Carter (he wasn't even in the country when he made his comments).

Therefore, Greta is right on the sexism issue. As far as I'm concerned, the party leadership deeply disappointed me and they can go fuck themselves. I'll always be a woman first, party affiliation comes far behind.

:grr:

[karynnj]

25. Not being for HRC was no more sexism than not being for Obama was racism

There were NO sexist comments from Kennedy that I heard - and I read as much as I could. He said many positive things about HRC, even as he endorsed Obama. Kennedy had the right to run against a sitting President who he philosophically disagreed with. He also learned that even against an unpopular President that isn't easy. Assume that Obama becomes a mediocre President and after a few years HRC leaves the cabinet, would you promise right now that you would not support her for a 2012 challenge? Why is it wrong for Carter to answer a question overseas? Had he said that he thought HRC was the choice that was best for the world, he wouldn't be on the list.

As to Pelosi, is she required to support all women (or even all Democratic women) against all male opponents? That is sexist. I am Jewish, in 2004 should I have supported Lieberman because he was Jewish or Carol Mosely Braun because she was a woman? I supported the candidate who I thought had the best ideas and was closest to my values - and it had nothing to do with the fact that he had Jewish ancestors. The fact of the matter is that after 2004, HRC had more support from the party leadership and the Democratic part of the media. I can't remember anyone who was not a sitting president or his VP having that level of support going in to an open race.

I do think that some of the attacks on this board were sexist and some of the negative comments were sexist. I also think that those attacks happened mostly after HRC and BC turned very negative. As to sexism, two of the most sexist things I heard were from HRC. One was after the first Philly debate, where everyone positioned themselves against HRC. She did a pretty good job, but blew the answer on the immigration answer. This was at the time where the campaign was routinely called "flawless" and HRC "inevitable". She could have spiked that whole story by calmly saying the next day that it was a complicated question and the answer could not be adequately explained in the time provided and as President, she would not be in the position of having to say yes or no to a position written by someone else - and here is where she really stood ..... Instead, she was at Wellesly, saying that it was the "guys" against the "girl". Forget that most of us her age fought the designation "girl" in our twenties, the fact was this was the standard way front runners are the ones others counter. (Then you had Bill out speaking of swiftboating) The second time was when in the NH debate HRC said she was change just because she was a woman. As one who things change refers to policies - this seems to say that men and women do not think the same.

[Beacool]

26. I never said that any of these people was obligated to endorse Hillary.

My point is that they are party leaders and, the same way that they were so eager to speak against racism, they should have been just as eager to denounce sexism (particularly of the media).

I never heard any of these people even once, chastise the media for it. Ironically, all the people I mentioned did support Obama over Hillary. I'm deeply disappointed in each one of them.

[karynnj]

27. It was complicated with HRC simultaneously playing the gender card herself

in the two well reported instances I mentioned. In Kennedy's case, you ignore that NOW immediately responded to his endorsement of HRC with an atrocious utterly unjustified attack on him that went FAR more over the line than any organization, MSM, pundit or politician said of Clinton - http://blogs.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/6285 - and she didn't denounce that.

"Ironically"? You looked at JUST OBAMA supporters - were there statements frum Schumer, Kerrey, Corzine, etc I didn't see them.

Here is a very reasonable statement from Pelosi - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/24/pelosi-clinton-did-face-sexism/?apage=2 - she says there was sexism AND there were people who were excited about HRC because she was a woman. It went both ways.

[Beacool]

46. I don't think that she played the gender card.

As a natter of fact, if she had campaigned from the very beginning as she campaigned since March, she would now be the president elect (as I think that any Democrat would have won this year).

As for Pelosi, she didn't release that statement until the middle of June when Hillary had already conceded. Where the hell was she before that day? My feeling is that she didn't give a rat's tail end because she supported Obama (though not officially), so anything that hurt Hillary benefited her chosen candidate.

[karynnj]

51. You missed the point of Pelosi's comments -

HRC's gender helped as much as hurt. I really don't think there was a huge amount of sexism - in fact, I think that many comments that were specifically against HRC were called sexist - and they weren't.

I do think that saying that she is change just because she is a woman is sexist - so we will have to disagree.

I think that she had far more media support and LESS ridiculous unwarranted attacks than either Gore or Kerry. So I doubt we will ever agree. Did you ever hear the Clintons speak out on the complete garbage thrown at either of them by the media?

[atimetocome]

30. yes, the Party leaders were shameful in this respect.

[Beacool]

48. Yep, they were.

They didn't give a damn because she was not their chosen candidate. Notice how quickly they reacted when there was even a whiff of racism in the air, but didn't even bat an eyelash when Hillary was called every name under the sun: Her voice was "shrill", her laughter was dubbed a "cackle", her age, weight, legs and even breasts were commented on, one guy said that he crossed his legs when she appeared on his screen, another one said that she reminded men of their ex wives and Tweety made so many comments that we could write a compendium of his asinine remarks.

So, as far as the leadership of the Democratic party goes, they can go to hell. The DNC will never get another dime from me or my family. I will support any of my local politicians whose policies I agree with, but that's about it.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

52. Beacool, I quit posting here after the image of Sen. Clinton being burned at the stake was posted

here on DU for the sixth time, with cheers and jokes all around.

The Democrats were gleefully indulging in violent words and imagery regarding Sen. Clinton during the primary. It was stunning to me, as a life long Democrat and life long feminist, to see the party who claimed to support gender equality attack Sen. Clinton so viciously for being a female.

I guess bygones should be bygones, but "forget, I'm not sure I could".

[Beacool]

53. I never saw those posts, but I have seen that image.

If I'm not mistaken it's from Mother Jones. I wonder if they would have thought that it was so funny if someone had posted a picture of Obama with a noose around his neck. One image is as outrageous as the other, yet racism was loudly condemned but sexism just brought a communal chuckle and was summarily dismissed with a "get over it". Well, I won't get over it and I will never forget how the party treated the first viable woman to run for the presidency. Furthermore, after she conceded I changed my party affiliation to "not affiliated". From now on, I vote for the candidate and not the party.

:(

[Alter Ego]

7. Greta Van Susteren, much like her brethren on Fox, is a waste of ape sperm.

[ErinBerin84]

9. shhhhh, the P word is a sore spot for some people here!

Yes, there was sexism. From the day Palin was announced, freaking EVERY news anchor started saying "Ooooh, Joe Biden really has to go easy on her now, or else he will look like he's beating up on a woman!" What bullshit...they went easy on her. I'm sick of hearing how the press meanies beat up on her, she got away with shit that a man never would. The discussion of "But she's a mom, will she have time for this?" was kind of sexist, but they sort of did that to Edwards too bc of Elizabeth's cancer. Not saying it is right, but I think there was not much discussion of it anyway and the RNC just used it to excuse Palin being completely unqualified.


PS: Anyone remember the staged RNC sexism show starring Marsha Blackburn the morning of Palin's convention speech? Truly one of the strangest things I've ever seen, it was on C Span. Can anyone find it on youtube?

[NashVegas]

11. Campbell Brown Is Trying It With Rendell

[Bunny]

12. Greta's concerns for women don't seem to extend much beyond

obsessing over that poor Natalee girl who vanished in Aruba.

[w4rma]

15. Greta is a Scientologist. She's a little bit batty. (nt)

[TwilightGardener]

16. Greta, who consented to have her entire ugly face reconstructed into something

even uglier and unnatural, so that she could be employed by Fox (the official channel of "news bimbos") is suddenly a feminist champion? Ha ha, that's pretty funny.

[Jennicut]

17. Greta needs to go back to worrying about missing blonde teenagers

and OJ and stop trying serious news discussion, she can't handle it.

[ksoze]

18. Watch this video featuring Quagmire from Family Guy..

Even the sex starved Quagmire needs help with Greta:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH3R1k49DBM

[Beacool]

20. The name of the plane says it all.............

:rofl:

[Clio the Leo]

19. I keep having this vision that she wants to seduce Todd. ....

.... sorry, I do.

[ErinBerin84]

21. hope she also includes how sexist Rush is....

but, according to Elisabeth on the View (just now), he was making a "social commentary" on sexism and ageism, when he said that Hillary wouldn't be president because people don't like to see women grow old. I kid you not.

[Beacool]

23. Rush is a conservative jerk, but what was Tweety's excuse

for saying the morning after Hillary won the NH primary that the only reason that she was a senator and a presidential candidate was because Bill messed around. That was just one of his many doozies. And THIS is the guy who thinks he's worthy of the senate seat from PA?????

x(

[ErinBerin84]

24. um, I didn't say it WAS appropriate....

But I bet Greta would point out Chris Matthews sexism, but I doubt she'd touch upon Rush (and the View has talked about Chris Matthews before. And for Whoopi's credit today, she told Elisabeth that Rush was being "crappy" and not making a social commentary). And Palin was always saying stuff like "He just didn't have it in himself to pick Hillary" and implying that Obama was sexist....wonder what she thinks about him now?

[Beacool]

28. I think Palin meant the VP position, not SOS.

Rush is a total idiot, but I expected better from the left and fellow Democrats.

[ErinBerin84]

29. I know that she meant VP.

but obviously, Obama picking Clinton as SOS diffuses her little theory. And I agree, but it just gets a bit tired when it's from people like Greta.

[anonymous171]

47. Tweety is an idiot. You won't find many defending him here.

[Beacool]

54. Some are defending him and are happy that he may run for the senate.

x(

[Jade Fox]

22. Conservatives claim they are being discriminated against.....

for something else when it's just that people don't like their message or their record.

In this case Van Sustern is claiming sexism against a woman (Palin) who can't face the tough questions any man would be expected to face, and who doesn't have the background any man would be expected to have. It is not sexism to expect Palin to be able to do these things. It is sexism to let her get away with what no man in politics would get away with.

Conservatives love to steal the ideas and weapons of the left, but haven't got a clue.

[Liquorice]

31. Sexism is rampant in our culture. Even your post, in

which you use the word 'pimping' so carelessly, shows it. Words like bitch and pimp and ho are used in our media constantly. It's as wrong as using racial slurs and racially insensitive language, but sexism is almost always tolerated, whereas racism is not. I wish our culture would treat sexist language in the same way that they treat racist language.

I agree with Greta in that there was a shocking amount of sexism against Hillary coming from the democratic side (from both men and women by the way). I expected it from republicans, but it was a great disappointment seeing it coming from our side.

[Beacool]

60. I agree.

If anything, I expected the sexist crap from the right, but was shocked to see the same comments from the left. But the worst culprits were those in the media, they were positively disgraceful. The primaries left we with a bitter taste, misogyny is alive and well in this imperfect nation of ours. Heck, it's actually thriving.

:(

[jesus_of_suburbia]

32. I have no respect for Greta because she glorified Palin IMO. I do agree though that sexism was

rampant in the Primaries and the General Election.


RAMPANT.

[alwysdrunk]

33. Grasping for any excuse for Palin's obvious stupidity

Palin is such an embarrassment to the GOP (and FOX) that they have to try everything they can to try to retain some credibility for her. I mean why not throw sexism out there? She's a woman, it's at least plausible right?

That is how they do business. All tactics, all the time.

[atimetocome]

37. She drew large crowds in Georgia. She will not be going away.

[ErinBerin84]

38. yes,

and the victim mentality surrounding St Sarah is a key part of her marketing. Blehhh.

[anonymous171]

49. Don't worry, she as she ages she will lose her marketing value.

[mitchum]

57. That poster spends a lot of time defending Palin

I wonder why...

[mitchum]

55. Yes, but Georgia LOVES losers...they carved three of them onto a mountainside

Also, there is a very definite pattern to your postings today...but you already know that

[alwysdrunk]

61. That's true but it is a net win for us

Palin crowds and the people who attend them will continue to scare away moderates from the GOP. They have no real hope of "rebuilding" as long as they get comtempt from the moderates.

Even though we all dislike Palin we should really be very grateful that she hit the scene when she did.

[Every Man A King]

36. Murdoch is embarrassed of his own Foxnews but you still watch? n/t

[zulchzulu]

44. Greta probably calls someone a sexist if they complain when she serves burnt macaroni

Throwing the word "sexist" around like a beach ball in Santa Cruz is an attempt to stop what is obvious: Sarah Palin is a halfwit.

[Cha]

50. fauxsn00ze viewers are the least informed

on the Planet..they of the brainwashed class. greta sold her soul and what did she get?

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

56. Greta rants about sexism and yet constantly has on Rush Limbaugh

on her show. I can't STAND her.

[mkultra]

58. greta is a RW shill

[Orsino]

63. I can't really blame her.

Palin was the only apparent spark of life (faint and artificial as it was) in the Republican camp. If Van Sustren is looking to resuscitate the party, that's where she's going to start.

In a few months, even Fox will have Palin fatigue, I think.

[JVS]

64. It's not like she is the first to do this.

[lunatica]

65. I remember when I used to respect Greta Van Sustern!

Being a lawyer she was a great source of information about legal issues, but the minute she went to work for FOX I knew something really fishy was up, at the very least regarding her judgment, and I was soon aghast at the depths of her plunge into the muck. The only thing that could possibly explain it was she was getting tons of money. It's been years since I've watched her because I simply don't watch FOX.