The Clintons were the target of a coordinated right wing hit job for 8 years.

[EconomicLiberal]

For 8 years, the right wing tried time after time to bring the Clintons down by attempting to dreg up dirt on them and accusing them of nothing short of being murderers. It was a coordinated and well funded operation, funded by rich Republicans like T Boone Pickens and Richard Mellon Scaiffe and perpetuated by the Rush Limbaughs of the world.

And it pains me to see that so called LIBERALS have joined the hit-job. My, how memories are short.

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[Elwood P Dowd]

2. The Arkansas Project

I need to pull out my copy of David Brock's "Blinded By The Right" and refresh my memory.

[tekisui]

3. I don't have a problem with the Clintons.

But, I understand that the hit-job that has followed the Clintons is one of the major reasons why many liberals seek to move past them.

We know it will perpetuate.

I am not worried, however. They have always survived and risen to the top.

[wyldwolf]

7. which is why I seek to move past those so-called "liberals."

[tekisui]

17. Fair enough.

Like I said, I don't have a problem with either of them. I would take a lifetime of Clinton administrations over one more puke.

[EconomicLiberal]

10. You can not "move past them".

The attacks will persist under Obama's administration. It is best we learn how to fight back against their coordinated smears than perpetuate them like many "liberals" on this forum prefer to do.

[wyldwolf]

4. It's simple

Clinton WON and he was successful. And he did it without doing it the LEFT's or the RIGHT'S way. And people didn't like it.

[ProSense]

5. "T Boone Bicks and Mellon Scaiffe"? Huh?

Who?

[BeyondGeography]

6. Scaife endorsed Hillary, remember?

Time to move on...

[PBS Poll-435]

14. In the primary....

By the time PA had theirs, it was either Hillary or Barack.

She had the courage to face that asshole head-on.

[MadHound]

8. Darn those liberals, bringing up facts and all of that crap

I mean really now, it's well know that Clinton didn't get on board with NAFTA, welfare reform, financial deregulation, the '96 Telecom Act, no, no, no, never did none of those things, it wasn't his fault.

What the fuck ever:eyes:

Don't like reality, go live in your own private fantasy world.

[Whisp]

18. it wasn't his fault! lol

on his CNN interview he said he made mistakes, only when he was so tired from trying to do so much good, he made these mistakes... like NAFTA, welfare reform, financial deregulation, the '96 Telecom Act, and all that pardonin' of the like of Rich, and forgettin' about Iran/Contra, BCCI, and protectin' the Bushes... etc etc etc., o, and bombing and strangling Iraq... etc etc etc

:rofl:
poor baby, he should have gotten more sleep, rather than sleep around.

[Laelth]

35. Wish I had read your post before I responsed, MadHound.

I mentioned exactly those four issues in my response below.

Great minds, I suppose. :toast:

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[golddigger]

9. Yeah, it is sad. I remember 2 or 3 years ago when everyone was...

crying, "I want the 'Big Dawg' back! My, how other DU'ers memories are short.

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[golddigger]

21. Well, if you posted today it must be true!

[Sebastian Doyle]

23. Good luck finding any statements from me

Which denounce the Democratic party or our nominee.

[BzaDem]

30. I'm curious if that would remain true had Clinton won the primary. n/t

[Sebastian Doyle]

31. Thank God we never had to find out.

:)

[TayTay]

22. Thank Goodness we elected Barack Obama

I love the guy and would not have changed a thing. I think he is going to be a truly great Democratic President.

I am as happy now about that win as I was on election day.

[LostinVA]

11. Since last January till as recently as today, I have seen all the RW talking points on here

Monica and cigars, Troopergate, Travelgate, Vince Foster's "murder," HRC is a lesbian, etc. It's sickening. I listened to this shit for eight years, and to see it on erae??? They did EVERYTHING they could to ruin the Clintons or drive them to suicide.

There are legit policy reasons to dislike either Bill or Hillary Clinton. This RW garbage on here is beyond the pale and shameful.

[EconomicLiberal]

15. It pains me to see some "liberals" here legitimize these smears.

There was a time when the Democrats were a unified force, fighting against the well-funded right wing smear machine. But now some of these Democrats are content to parrot right wing smears.

[Laelth]

36. "[T]here was a time when the Democrats were a unified force"

Huh? When was that? Not in my lifetime, surely.

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." - Will Rogers, 1935

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[glitch]

42. Before we were cats,(supposedly) in need of herding. :) nt

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[karynnj]

38. What you are doing is using the things that are not true to

cover the things that were - Monica was real, and as a mom to 3 girls 8 to 13 when it all came out, I wish it weren't true. Troopergate was a huge number of lies. Travelgate was not illegal, but if I liked HRC I wouldn't bring it up - she did not cover herself with glory. The last 2 were complete fabrications.

You also ignore all the campaign contribution problems - which ended up biting Gore, not the more culpable Clintons.

[eridani]

61. I haven't seen anything of the sort

I have, however, seen criticisms of NAFTA, welfare "reform", the Telecommunications Act, bombing of Iraq, etc. Very different matters.

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[glitch]

43. Not a lot of chess players in America.

Easy pickins.

[blm]

46. No wonder pickpockets are a thriving bunch. "OMG....look over there..."

.

[MadBadger]

13. Is anybody complaining about Hillary today? Seems likes its you who is bringing up all the old BS

[LostinVA]

16. You must have them on Ignore

[ErinBerin84]

19. I think I must tooo, honestly.

Maybe a few days ago, but I hadn't really seen any today. Maybe I am just ignoring threads that I feel will probably be flamewars? I really don't know....

[bridgit]

24. True -- The Hunting of the President

Now I wished I'd have taped it off the TV with a camera or something, but as the EC results were coming in the first time around Bob Dole stood on the steps of congress with the pillars behind and snarled & spat as is his way that they intended to conduct hearings on Bill Clinton every day of his presidency...and he was tipping all the cards right there cause that's what they did

http://www.thehuntingofthepresident.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGX0m7syrRo

[Captain Hilts]

25. They MADE UP DIRT about them!!

[mtnsnake]

26. Hear, hear!!

The reason that the "so called LIBERALS have joined the hit-job" is because that's what the anti-Clintons liberals are...they're "so-called liberals" who get their ideas from places like Michael Moore's book jackets where MM tells them that goofy myth how Bill was the best Republican president since Lincoln.

The reason why the Republican whackjobs went after the Clintons with such a vengeance is because they hated the Clintons' liberal ways and what they stood for. Keep in mind that half the "so-called" Liberals on DU are most likely Republican trolls trying to pass themselves off as Liberals. Surely no Liberal I've ever met has ever crapped on a fellow Democrat like the so-called Liberals on this forum who don't have a respectful or appreciative bone in their bodies.

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

27. Yup. Sad. I dedicate this song to Bill and Hill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pKujuTgtL0

[beachmom]

28. Liberals and Democrats defended the Clintons for 8 Plus years.

And now we're done doing that. I assume Hillary will do a great job at State. It is Obama who will be attacked for the next 4 to 8 years.

The fact is that Bill Clinton did something that left him open to attacks. You need to accept that.

[ProSense]

29. Exactly.

There are people who disingenuously characterize criticism of some of Clinton's policies, his pardons, his statements in support of Bush and the war as RW talking points. It's nonsense.

[Laelth]

39. Hear, hear.

I was one of those Clinton defenders, and I got really sick of the job, especially after watching Bill betray my interests repeatedly when he didn't have to. He wanted to look successful, even if it meant stabbing the left in the back.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[creeksneakers2]

41. They all have faults

If the GOP digs enough they can get anybody.

[Skittles]

32. and it worked on WAY more than just idiot dittoheads

you are correct; I see lots of DUers who fell for much of that garbage

[bridgit]

33. E-yup!

[Laelth]

34. Clinton was no liberal.

He was certainly better than the alternatives, but he deserves ire from the left on at least four points (NAFTA, destroying AFDC, signing off on deregulation of financial institutions, and signing off on telecom mergers and deregulation). He was the classic triangulator--often siding with the Republicans against his own party. He did little to advance the left's agenda.

The right wing's attacks against Clinton were generally unfounded and ridiculous. The left's attacks on Clinton were well deserved--then and now.

I hope Obama will be better.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

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[whistler162]

40. Truth in the Republicans trying to dredge up anything... but

it was also a game of Battleship with one of the small two hole ships as the only piece on the board.

And the Republicans hit it and it did harm President Clintons term in office and legacy. But, that two hole ship was placed by President Clinton himself and he has himself to blame. Well and his family history.

[judasdisney]

44. And then: Hillary voted for the Iraq War, sat on her hands for torture & lost all credibility.

Does that answer the topic of this thread?

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[Beacool]

47. Correction:

Just wait 5 minutes and watch the Clintons being attacked by the Left Wing Conspiracy.

Same mudslinging as the right, both extremes are just as bad..........

x(

[maddowfan]

48. We Wouldn't Have Stood A Chance If It Weren't For the Clintons

People had the side-by-side image of one of the best administrations in history, leaving us a historic surplus, compared to the Bush years. There was no argument that could be made.

[dionysus]

53. the most beloved people in the whole wide world right?

:rofl:
:spray:

[Mass]

49. This is as disgraceful concerning the Clintons as it is concerning other Democrats.

However, there is a difference between repeating RW memes and discussing legitimate policy issues. People tend to confuse these two things.

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[atimetocome]

54. It seems it is easy for many DU members to pick up RW talking

points and throw them at all things Clinton.

[LanternWaste]

55. All I have to do is listen to Limbaugh to realize what...

All I have to do is listen to Limbaugh on Monday to realize what Clinton's DU detractors will be saying on Tuesday.

Maybe it's a spurious correlation, maybe it's not-- but either way, it's ineffectual, inutile and worthless.

Granted, I can occasionally (well... let's say 'rarely' instead) read some valid criticisms that contain merit and validity, but on the whole, it's pretty much the same old characters playing out the same old petty and puerile monologues.

[happychatter]

56. Insults and FUCKING BAIT

go jump off a cliff

shit starting MFer

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[w4rma]

58. And yet Clintonites attack President Carter and never really stood up for Kerry when he ran.

And I'm still pretty ticked off about most of the things they said about Obama during the primaries.

[demokatgurrl]

59. Oh, dontcha know Hillary made that all up.

That vast right wing conspiracy? Totally bogus.
No one was given a fair shake if not the Clintons. :sarcasm:

[EconomicLiberal]

60. These people must have just became Democrats over the last 8 years.

They obviously don't remember the previous 8.