Hey kids, what time is it? That's right! It's FREEPER TEARS TIME!

[Occam Bandage]

This means that it is no longer the democrats fault for what is to come.

Blame is and will be placed squarely at the feet of the Supreme Court of the United States.

I would say “God help us”.... but it looks like His response is “I have seen how you (USA) would thank Me”.

Bring your Judgement God... WE DESERVE IT!

Well..., it’s like I’ve been saying before about the Supreme Court taking this up, about Obama being a “natural-born Kenyan” and not being qualified as President of the United States. The Supreme Court is not interested in resolving this issue right now — but — they probably will resolve it after Obama has served his term in office... LOL..

So much for the Constitution these days...

its worth nothing more than the paper it is written on anymore....

We will be hard pressed to deny anyone the Presidency in the future. This ruling means that Swartzenegger can run for President. Maybe even Valiente Fox or Cesar Chavez.

It seems the Constitutional requirement for citizenship has been deemed null and void due to the silence of the courts. With all of the questions that haven't been answered, the courts have essentially said "it doesn't matter". They've put the resolution of this question back into the hands of obama - and guess who ISN'T going to show us his b.c. voluntarily?

Based on the ruling (or lack thereof) I have decided - skeletons and all - that I am more eligible for the Presidency than Obama...and I even have a legal birth certificate...an American one...and I'll be glad to show it to anyone.

Other states will pursue this. It’s not going away until we see a birth certificate.

Right now, the best way to fight it is w/ Senators and Representatives. Remember, in 2004, about 30 Democratic Represenatatives and one Senator raised objections (per 20th Amendment) when Electoral College vote was submitted to Congress.

All that is needed to raise the objection is *ONE* senator and *ONE* Representative to raise it, in writing, and then Congress is FORCED to address the issue.

Well it’s OFFICIAL: The United States Constitution is NULL and VOID!

It’s been fun while it lasted!

So I guess now, Schwarzenegger could just run for president and no one .. no secretary of state .. no political party .. no elector .. would question his natural born status.

I want to see this Constitutional issue challenged and resolved, one way or another, for good.

How else are we to know what its meaning and value are?

Considering the directing that the Nation has taken and all other aspects, this action should surprise no one who is dealing with the reality of the situation.

The Nation that the Founding Fathers turned over to us is dead.

Alan Keyes has been wronged by this action, and has the standing to bring it to court. We have the facts behind us, and they MUST be heard.

No longer is it: “We the People” but rather...”you people!” (kooks, nuts, radicals, on-the-fringe fruitcakes”)

They have just told us that the foundation of U.S. law does not matter anymore. We are being “ruled”.

And not only that: Guess who's to blame for this? BUSH IS!

I'm at a loss. Is President Bush in the tank for Obama? Does he not realize that he, the commander in chief, swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?
Why is he NOT spearheading the move to get to the bottom of Obama's Birth Certificate issue if he is NOT part of a conspiracy to destroy our society and make us all a part of his daddies "New World Order?"

Please. Help me out here.
Is President Bush really so vane and worried about his own legacy that he won't do what is right or will he go down as the last great liberal to let the Supreme Court decide America's fate.

What good is electing a leader that purportedly defends us and our Constitution abroad if he is letting our enemies destroy both the Constitution and us from within?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Lets see he is pissing off the Liberal progressive base and anti-war wackoos.

He already has enough dissent on this side, and now the man that ran on unity and transformational prowess is quickly becoming the most divisive President in history.

Your Hiding something Obama, you fool, you would rather set Law precedent to allow any non-natural born ot run for the highest office in the land then to just show your vault copy..

Must be something juicy on that vault copy for sure...

Most likely Obama is not his real daddy.

What legacy??? No matter what Bush did, he got shafted!
I just got through saying I think this is because God didn't want him to take any action against this.
That doesn't mean I think Bush even wanted to.

Bush to USA:
Up Yours America... I'm goin home!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2144905/posts?q=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2144908/posts

Edit: And new ones!

And won’t EVERY law and EVERY move he made while “President” be null and void then???

Right on! Revolution is around the corner.........or some kind of eruption; I can feel it in my bones. The entire system needs to be gutted.

that document has outlived it’s usefulness...

Unfortunately, you are right, the Constitution is no longer taken seriously and the Justices are merely playing a language game and taking home their fat checks. I guess that is the situation for most everyone in this alternative PC world.

If you have your doubts about ‘trickle down economics’, how do you like ‘trickle down dictatorship’?

The end of our constitutional republic, not with a bang nor a whimper, but with the lack of courage in the men entrusted to uphold the constitution.

[Alter Ego]

1. By all means, Freepers--vote for Arnold Gropenfuhrer!

See where it gets you! Why the hell not?

[AllentownJake]

2. Begging for the Judgement of God

:rofl:

[WeDidIt]

3. And now, the DENIAL Thread

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Donofrio Case (Certifigate): STILL PENDING according to Supreme Court
Here ^ | today | self

Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 10:33:46 AM by DouglasKC

Is there still hope?

Legal minds needed.

This order list was released by the United States Supreme Court on Monday, 12/8/2008.

Near the top, in the category "ORDERS IN PENDING CASES" is this:

08A407 DONOFRIO, LEO C. V. WELLS, NJ SEC. OF STATE

The application for stay addressed to Justice Thomas and referred to the Court is denied.

But here's the thing. The application for stay is denied. But the case IS pending. The document seems to be separating out a certain number of cases as "Orders in Pending Cases."

For example, right below the Donofrio case is this:

08M32 PONEK, JOHN V. FLORIDA

There is nothing there saying anything is denied. The rest of the document contains no reference to this.

Question: Are these the pending cases and does this mean that the case is still alive and the only thing denied was the "stay" to stop the electors from meeting?

Legal minds and advise needed. Please weigh in.

What does this mean? Lawyers?



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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birth; certificate; obama
Lawyers please weigh in.

1 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 10:33:46 AM by DouglasKC
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:rofl:

These idiots have no clue. Donofrio did NOT file a write of certiorari. He filed requesting a stay of the electoral college which would become a writ if accepted.

[amitten]

9. "Legal minds and advise needed." ! They're gonna be

hard-pressed to find such minds on that board...

(oh, and it's 'advice', dumbass)

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. "Well it’s OFFICIAL: The United States Constitution is NULL and VOID!"

Yeah right... I wonder if that dumb Freeping son of a bitch said that on December 12, 2000 when there was actually TRUTH to the statement? :eyes:

[grantcart]

5. I have a serious question

Are these people allowed to drive automobiles?

[Occam Bandage]

7. Driver's licenses are government interference in their God-given right to drive. nt

[grantcart]

12. ah yes, the ole' Jesus loved his car parable.

[nxylas]

31. I have actually seen this argued on RW "Wake Up America" type websites

There was one that purported to show how the 10 points (or however many it is) of the Communist Manifesto had already been enacted in America, one of which was "government control of transportation and communications" - namely drivers' licenses and the FCC respectively.

[navarth]

10. LOL

THAT is the best one of all. Thanks for the chuckle.

[Bicoastal]

6. Actually, I don't think Cesar Chavez qualifies for the Presidency under any scenario...

...since he's been dead for 15 years.

Real intelligent, Freepers. :eyes:

[nxylas]

24. I think they meant Hugo Chavez

But all Hispanics are the same as far as they're concerned.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

34. Cesar Chavez was born in Arizona

But as you point out, he's also been dead for 15 years.

[Neshanic]

8. Them talking about paternity. Classic. Palin and her annunciation they forget.

[dtotire]

11. Constitution is pretty clear

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Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[MorningGlow]

13. Isn't going to show us his b.c.?

Obama doesn't HAVE butt crack, you idiots...oh...wait. :blush:

[BuyingThyme]

14. I truly don't get this.

Is it a racist thing? Do they assume that all non-whites are secret subversives?

[MorningGlow]

19. Just grasping at straws

They're just clinging to that old rumor that Obama might not be a citizen, even though it was debunked ages ago.

You know, even my 83 YO mom gets the vetting process--she always says, "If he wasn't a legal citizen, how would anybody have allowed him to run, let alone win?"

[AllentownJake]

30. The answer to that question is

a big affirmative.

[Eurobabe]

15. This deserves it's own FRUzy

"Well it’s OFFICIAL: The United States Constitution is NULL and VOID!

It’s been fun while it lasted!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Staph]

16. Asking for logic from a Freeper is asking for the moon, but

Alan Keyes has been wronged by this action, and has the standing to bring it to court. We have the facts behind us, and they MUST be heard.

How on God's green earth has Alan Keyes been wronged by the Supremes' decision on this? Because he ran against Obama for the Senate four years ago? Because he is also a black man? Because he has the IQ of a large bunch of asparagus? Inquiring minds are terribly confused!

[Occam Bandage]

18. I have no idea. That confused me also. nt

[Alter Ego]

25. Please do not besmirch large bunches of asparagus

by comparing them to Alan "My Hands Can Touch Anything But Themselves" Keyes.

[AllentownJake]

29. I think the argument is

That Allen Keyes was on the ballot in California.

[WolverineDG]

Please don't cast asparagus on asparagus nt

[Soylent Brice]

17. bwahahahahahaha!!! yes, yes, sweet salty tears...

yes, yes, sweet salty tears...

[Jennicut]

20. "its worth nothing more than the paper it is written on anymore"

Since when do they believe in the Constitution? What happened to Shrub's executive privilege and Cheney's view that the VP is part of the legislative branch?

[margotb822]

23. I think that's a direct Cheney quote

Wasn't he the one who said it's just a piece of paper?

The fact that they don't get the irony of this cracks me up!

[jberryhill]

32. It's not written on paper anyway...

History is not their strong suit.

[izquierdista]

21. "Please. Help me out here."

Glad to! Shall I smack you in the head with a 2x4 every time you say something demonstrably (sorry, that was a tough word) really, really false? And keep smacking you when your faith in what you would like to be true overrules what your senses can tell you is actually true? :spank:

[TrogL]

45. It's not going to happen

These are not reality-based people. They live in their own little make-up world.

[NorCalDem]

22. Yes, they just can't seem to figure out...

that courts DID look at his birth certificate, and it is/was fine. Obama is not going anywhere, get used to it Freepers!!

[JimWis]

26. LOL. Thanks for the post. It's a laugh a minute reading what those

idiots write. They are nuttier than a fruit cake.

[EFerrari]

27. Somebody tell these people Cesar Chavez has been dead for 15 years.

lol

And who is "Valiente" Fox?

[Bright Eyes]

28. I find their sudden concern for the Constitution hilarious.

[backscatter712]

33. Let me taste your tears, Freepers!!!

Mmmmmm, your tears are so sweet and yummy!!!

Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness!!! Mmmmm-yummy!!!! MMMMM-YUMMY!!!!!!

(edit: dammit, beaten to Scott Tenorman!!!)

[SemiCharmedQuark]

35. Apparently they are putting their faith in the Political Story about how "the left" is pissed off at

Obama.

[EFerrari]

36. So, Bush is in the tank for Obama and the Left will rescue the Freepers?

lololol

[peace frog]

37. Good, let 'em buy into that myth

Gives us more sweet, salty tears to savor when the truth is revealed. Idjuts.

[political_Dem]

38. Isn't this ironic? Where were they with all this distrust of the SCOTUS

during the outcome of the 2000 election?

Sometimes I feel like asking these idiots whether they love America or not. I've lost count how many times conservatives have asked me the same thing when I've had a criticism of Bush and his policies during these eight, long years.

It's time for them to get used to the fact that there's a new sheriff in town.

[Window]

39. LOL! "Is President Bush really so vane..."

"Please. Help me out here.
Is President Bush really so vane and worried about his own legacy that he won't do what is right or will he go down as the last great liberal to let the Supreme Court decide America's fate."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

41. Jinx

You owe me a Coke.

[Window]

42. LOL!

[tanyev]

44. The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind....

[Occam Bandage]

47. One of the freepers pointed out vane, too. nt

[HCE SuiGeneris]

40. "Is President Bush really so vane..."

[TexasObserver]

43. the idiots who rail like that never know anything about constitutional law

It would be like asking a constitutional lawyer "can you please explain worm holes and quantum physics?" It helps if the person offering an opinion has expertise in the area on which an opinion is sought. That's why some rightwing insurance salesman or plumber is hardly the person to give an opinion on the meaning of the constitutional provisions.

There's a reason we keep track of all the Supreme Court decisions since day one. THOSE are the opinions which count.

[Writer]

46. I stopped when I read "Valiente Fox." (It's Vincente, idiot.)

:rofl:

He must think that the former President of Mexico is Pancho Villa, or something. "El es VALIENTE!"