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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:40 AM
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Question: How do we PUSH democrats to SPEAK UP!!! RIGHT NOW the FACE persons for the anti US auto...
...workers are senators who have foreign plants in their state and want their state workers to STOP going to the big 3 for better wages etc!!!

How do we get the dems to point a finger and state the FACTS.....FACTS, not lie just state the FACTS!?!?!?!?!


This election proved that we can get a LOT of money to people in a VERY VERY short time....anyone else know how else we can use this money?!?!?


What Croker etc are doing is treasonous and there's NO ONE screaming about it
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:47 AM
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1. Plus
the Big 3 UAW jobs help keep UP the wages of the non union factories in the home states of these idiot senators who tanked the bill. So if the UAW goes bust over this, it will drive down the wages at the non UAW factories, meaning those senators truly don't give a damn about their own constituents.

This is just disgusting. The Dems need to get this information out there right away, before Blagojevich takes over the headlines again.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:56 AM
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2. +1!! I didn't think about that angle. Croker wanted the UAW to be "competitive" with the Foreign....
...auto worker wages!!!
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:00 AM
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4. If he gave a damn about his own constituents
he would demand the factories in his state bring their wages up to meet the UAW wages. It's driving me nuts that the Dems aren't on TV pointing this out.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:10 AM
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9. This is why I think Reid or even Obama should be pointing this out. The CURREENT GOP Tom Delay cultu
...culture is NOT one you deal with but one you choke out. These guys are bullies and they're stupid so they do NOT know when they've been defeated and will continue to be jerks.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:59 AM
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3. The Democratic Leader , REID along with Baucus, Lincoln, Tester
voted with the GOP.

When our own party has no loyalty how do you expect them to stand
up against anyone

Looks as if they handed GWB a great for his legacy. He is planning
to use Tarp Monies and dsave the Auto Industry.
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:02 AM
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5. I wonder about the TARP money
if Bush uses it for the Big 3, does that mean HE (or his Repub cronies) get to dictate how they spend it?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:07 AM
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6. Reid did it for procedural reasons
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 11:08 AM by Jake3463
I think he's awful but it was done so it can be reopened later. The rules and customs of the Senate are an odd thing and that is why its difficult for Senators to run for the Presidency. Their voting records can be misconstrued too often.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:08 AM
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7. WOW!! WTF!! Has Reid said WHY he voted with the GOP!!?! My goodness!! I'm takin back
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:09 AM
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8. Procedural issue
It allows him to bring the issue up again.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:10 AM
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10. Then he should be out in front, his relative silence is what gets me
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 11:11 AM by uponit7771
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:14 AM
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11. He should make them actually filabuster
Force them to sit there and read the phone book or Moby Dick while the country's economy is crashing.
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:25 AM
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12. My sentiments exactly....n/t
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