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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:28 PM
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Mathews This Morn; Obama Wants To Set Up A Truth Commission
It was in the predictions section of the show and I don't remember who said it, might have been Andrew Sullivan. But eventually he wants this commission set up to investigate war crimes and the torture issue.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:29 PM
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1. And people wonder why the DOJ/CIA are hiding stuff from the Obama transition
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:42 AM
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20. It's why there are rumblings about Eric Holder being blocked.
They're afraid.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:58 AM
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21. They Should Be
They're coming up to 'you can run but you can't hide' time.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:31 PM
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2. Let the truth come out
and let the guilty be punished.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:38 PM
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3. maybe Obama will suprise me
I'd love to see investigations into this stuff but I never thought Obama would do it.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:39 PM
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4. The thing about Truth Commissions is that the crims get to go free if they mea culpa
That's the South African model, anyway. I don't know if that's worth it, although politically it would make a lot more sense.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:46 PM
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7. They don't want it to turn into a partisan issue because it is too important. The precedent
Edited on Sun Dec-14-08 12:48 PM by Pirate Smile
of what Bush did can't stand so they need to get to the truth but take the political aspects out of it. It sounds like a decent idea to me.

Sullivan didn't say anything re prosecutions or people going free. He just mentioned that they are considering setting up a truth commission. No more details other then that they would have subpoena powers.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:06 PM
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8. I Was Pleasantly Surprised To Hear This
It's a start and he. apparently, is willing. Good for him, it's a ;ot better then just walking away and pretending it didn't happen.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:50 PM
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13. A Truth and Reconciliation would benefit this nation, the accuracy of the HISTORIC RECORD
and would undermine the global terrorism networks in their own regions.

Just imagine when more of those who've aligned with the terror movement realize the original players have been working FOR BushInc and its global fascist agenda all along.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 09:22 PM
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15. The Accuracy Of The Historical Record
Is important. * is a;ways saying that he will be vindicated by history, so let's set the record straight
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:41 AM
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19. Coverups and 'moving past' illegal administrations have hurt this country tragically and in ways
that we may never recover WITHOUT that truth told at long last.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:59 AM
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22. Indeed
That is why this is such encouraging news
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:28 PM
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23. Better than nothing. This country's main problem is it is drowning
in lies and millions believe these lies.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:39 PM
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5. Obama Team has a lot of work
cut out for them what with bushits "sneaking" through measures to insure "undermining" our country.

"Bush sneaks through host of laws to undermine Obama"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3644393

They have so much to do and what is the focus? blago and how perfect Obama is not.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:09 PM
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9. What's Done Can Be Undone
And Obama has 400 people working on this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:38 PM
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11. Great! Makes me wonder
why they even bother to do it? Just to show how absolutely maniacal they are?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:44 PM
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6. And they'll have subpoena powers
It was Sullivan.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:10 PM
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10. Thanks For That, I'd Forgotten The Subpoena Part
And it's so crucially important.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 04:31 PM
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14. Yeah, he said it at the last
They would be independent like the 9/11 Commission. Not that I flag wave over that. But there were some fine moments during those hearings. So I welcome this move by Obama.

Sullivan also said something like that the new commission would get things out on the table. And for that alone I'm grateful. Another thing to feel good about. Seems like that happens almost every day.

:hi:
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:43 PM
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12. Re-affirm the Geneva Convention and the war Crimes related treaties and
let the World Court take care of matters. That will also remove the politics from the cure.

All that would be left would be to replace the red carpet up the gallows steps.
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Teacher in SC Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 11:08 PM
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16. Glad to hear this is on the table as I've been reading Glen Greenwald
of Salon.com and he is calling for a special commission with possibly Patrick Fitzgerald leading it. Greenwald was on the Moyers' PBS show Friday and had a fascinating presentation that shouldn't be missed by anyone on this forum. You can probably see it on the Moyers' site, or at Greenwald's blog at Salon.com.

If for no other reason, read what he says about those of us Obama followers who don't want his selections questioned. He's been added to my list of "must reads".
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 11:47 PM
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17. It Was Good
Here's the link:http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/02/obstruction/

Sirota's piece on how the progressives were right about the bailout and their critics were wrong, once again, is also good.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:51 AM
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18. OUTSTANDING ... and lets not forget Vincent Bugliosi - direct action against murder
Edited on Mon Dec-15-08 01:52 AM by autorank

The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder By Vincent Bugliosi

Highly recommended !!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/159315481X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1229323788&sr=8-1
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