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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:09 AM
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Bobby Rush is a moron
that is all
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:13 AM
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1. Bobby Rush is fighting cancer, leave him alone. nt
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:15 AM
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2. tell him to leave us alone
with his racial guilt trip nonsense

what a fucking idiot
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:32 AM
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9. Cancer doesn't make you get up and make a fool of yourself...
... please!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:47 AM
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48. Depending on what medications he's on...
there can be some pretty heavy side-effects.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:12 AM
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13. I've heard some bad excuses, but that's a pretty bad one.
If his cancer is so bad that it's affecting his logical mind, he should step down.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:48 PM
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33. If he's fighting cancer, and wants to be "left alone", why is he opening his mouth re. Burris?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 07:02 PM
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42. I wondered about that.
He didn't look at all well... :-(
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:18 AM
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3. I don't know about moron, but I don't understand Rush's motives.
Why is he enabling a crook who may wind up impeached or in jail? Also, several articles suggest Blago is using the black community to garner sympathy from jurors when the time comes.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:19 AM
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4. idiot maybe?
Maybe he's just an idiot--not a moron
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:20 AM
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5. As I said on your thread, Blago is innocent until proven guilty. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:30 AM
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7. That may be, but most people think it's just a matter of time.
Fitz is chomping at the bit to release some of the tapes he's on, he's been denounced by every last Dem in the Senate and the majority of if not entire IL house, so there must be some there there.
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barksdalemc Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:31 AM
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8. This is crap
Blago was on tape. Yes he is innocent until proven guilty, but in the court of public opinion he is guilty and shouldn't have made the appointment. I wonder how many of the "innocent until proven guilty" crowd aroud here would say that about Bush vis a vis war crimes.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:38 PM
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26. "Aroud Here"?
:rofl:


IBTT
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:05 AM
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49. It's not even close to the same thing.
Bush/Cheney admit to their crimes and dare anyone to try and do anything about it. This is different.

Even the prosecution wants more time now. Fitz is going after this guy for conspiracy, right? Conspiracy never even occurred to him in the Valerie Plame case. This is the same prosecutor. Maybe it all makes perfect sense to you, but I think some folks are expressing legitimate doubts here.

Why isn't the FEC handling the campaign finance issue in this case? Isn't that what they are supposed to do? This whole thing smells exactly like the case against Martha Stewart. She does her time and law enforcement moves on.

Do you believe Blago is the kingpin behind all the government corruption over the last eight years?

Isn't that the question that should be on everyone's lips?

We are probably only going to get one really big show trial. Is this what we should be wasting all that effort on?
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:35 AM
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47. That's what righties say about Bush/Cheney!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:02 AM
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11. Racism, plain and simple
He made it clear that he was supporting the Burris appointment because of the color of the man's skin rather than the content of his character.

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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:12 AM
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15. agreed
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 09:21 AM
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6. I'm saddened that both Rush and Burris cannot see why Blago's move was self-serving...
...and did Burris no favors.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:00 AM
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10. He's the only guy to ever beat Barack
:shrug:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:12 AM
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14. He trashed Obama for being too intellectual
which says a lot more about Rush than Obama. I voted in that election and I believe Rush stole it.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:36 AM
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16. Well things worked out in the long run
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:34 PM
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24. He also used the race card with Obama, too, saying Obama wasn't black enough.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:04 AM
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12. /signed
nt
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:38 AM
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17. I agree. Using the race card was disgusting.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:56 AM
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18. Maybe but
Jesse Jackson is a snitch. I'm not sure which is worse.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:59 AM
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19. Uh...what?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:09 PM
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21. He was a gov't informant
and gave Fitzpuke evidence against Blago.

The whole thing smells.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:17 PM
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22. Isn't it the duty of public servants to notify the authorities when a crime is committed?
:shrug:
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:37 PM
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25. Actually, in Chicago it's high treason.
I'm amazed at the posts I'm seeing today.

Jesse Jackson Jr. a "snitch"? Wtf happened here?

Did we get invaded?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:53 PM
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37. That sounds great!
But few politicians will ever confide in Jesse Jackson, Jr., knowing he was a stooge for a partisan Republican prosecutor.

That's the kind of "public service" many people can do without. :puke:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 04:47 PM
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41. I think that most people would want for him to blow the whistle on illegal activity
One of the reasons the GOP has had so much trouble in the past few years is that their leaders got caught breaking the law. Do you want the Democratic Party to make the same mistake?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 10:57 PM
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44. I have trouble with it
Being a snitch means no one can trust you. Is that who you want in your party? Lack of trust means nothing gets done. It is currently very important that certain things get done.

Republican problems go much farther than a few indictments.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 03:30 AM
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45. Being a snitch is far too maligned.
When someone is engaged in behavior that should be turned in, then I don't see a problem.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:55 PM
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29. You mean Jackson Jr. helped turn in a crook?
Why would you have a problem with that, if you don't support crooks?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:55 PM
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38. Did you convict him already? I must have missed that.
Welcome to America, circa 2009. Guilty when the MSM says so.

Meet the new boss - same as the old boss.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 04:24 PM
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50. So you think Bush is innocent, because he's never been convicted?
:eyes:

Give me a break.

Blagojevich had a 4% approval rating in Illinois for a reason.

For starters, people in Illinois were paying attention to him long before you were.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 09:24 PM
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51. Oh, goody
So that means he's guilty and he's no longer Governor. Hey, why have laws or a constitution or even elections? Let the media tell us what to do!

The people of Illinois also supported the Iraq War. How well did that go?

Look, Blago seems like an asshole. He probably should go. But you can't enforce the law by skirting the law - there's nothing right about that.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:43 PM
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52. So what's your problem with JJ Jr., if you think Blago "probably should go"?
Jackson Jr. didn't arrest him or convict him. He's not even investigating Blagojevich.

He did, it seems, help provide information and evidence. What is wrong with that? Don't we want people to do that?

None of these things you're talking about reflect badly on Jackson Jr. at all.

"Hey, why have laws or a constitution or even elections?"

It seems the gist of your argument is "Why have informants or whistleblowers?". If evidence Jesse Jackson Jr. obtained helps convict Blagojevich and put him behind bars, shouldn't we be happy he did what he did? :shrug:
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:18 AM
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53. Think of what that leads to
He did, it seems, help provide information and evidence. What is wrong with that? Don't we want people to do that?

Think of the kind of society we'd have if everyone ratted out everyone else. I've been to such places. I doubt you'd like it.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:33 AM
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54. Nonsense ....
You brought this on with your 'Prison Gang Ethic' that ALL 'snitches are scum' ....

Well .... Some 'snitches' are doing the public a service by revealing abhorrent, criminal behavior that harms the public good .... Exposing government corruption is NOT considered 'snitching' .... We wish MORE would be exposed .... This isnt about the honor of thieves ....

You can cling to this 'guilty when the MSM says so' meme all you want .... It is the only stitch of clothe you have between a corrupt slimeball and a lie ....

Many of us see the tapes of Blago shaking down a Children's Hospital as the coup de grace ... THAT kind of disgusting behavior is what we HATE MOST about politicians .... and while guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is necessary in a court of law; The court of my own judgment says Blago is utter shit, and he should get canned EVEN IF he happens to slide out from a conviction somehow ...

Fuck him ....
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:58 PM
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39. Learn the DU rules
You should be getting a taste of your own medicine soon.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 11:00 AM
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20. And that is all that needs to be said. Complete moron.
Edited on Wed Dec-31-08 11:03 AM by Phx_Dem
Trying to make Burris' appointment all about race and, practically threatening black upheaval if anyone dares to oppose seating him.

I'm very sorry you have cancer, Bobby, and I wish you a full and speedy recovery, but butt the fuck out.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:20 PM
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23. Takes one to know one.

that is all
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:46 PM
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28. Rush is correct
The Senate is 100% white and what is the excuse for denying Burris? No one has accused him of anything and Blago is simply exercising his constitutional and statutory powers. Just as there is only one president at a time there is only one governor at a time. Why is a qualified black person being denied entry into a lily white club?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 12:56 PM
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30. Anyone appointed by Blago will not be a Senator. Race isn't part of the fucking equation.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:06 PM
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31. We will see what the Supreme Court says about that
They have already answered this issue twice and the answer is not something you will like.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:19 PM
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32. Actually, we can ask Jesse White right now.
He has to certify Blagojevich's pick, and he said today that it's not happening.

No supreme court, no appointment, no nothing.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 01:58 PM
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34. People say stuff all the time
The IL Supreme Court will force him to certify the appointment. Jesse White can't hijack the Constitution. He is not a dictator.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:54 PM
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40. Rush's use of "lynching" was wrong; criticism of Burris stems from Blags, not race
Nobody here (or anywhere) is arguing that Burris shouldn't be in the Senate because of his race. Please don't be ridiculous.

Blags is hoodwinking you.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:03 PM
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35. Bobby Rush is an idiot, and helping push BlagoSandwich's bullshit racial guilt move.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:09 PM
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36. As far as I know, Hizzoner, the Young Mayor Daley, has not made any statement
on Blago's pick of Burris.

The fact that Fitzgerald is asking for more time to prepare the indictment suggests that things aren't so clear on Blago.

Perhaps the situation in Chicago has become even more complicated, and that the Mayor won't talk until he knows which way the political winds are blowing among African American voters in Chicago and whether Blago might be able to stay alive politically.

Anybody else seen anything from Daley?

Any other thoughts on why we're not hearing anything?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 07:10 PM
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43. Now IMNSHO, you are behaving as "amazingly superficial" as Joe Scarborough.
Congrats. :eyes:
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 08:32 AM
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46. Anyone with "Rush" in his/her name is a moron!
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