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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:04 PM
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What was Patterson thinking about? Will the Gillibrand pick give GOP a new House Seat?
I was just thinking about the fact that Patterson lauded Gillibrand for having won a seat in a what is normally a Republican stronghold. So my question is, isn't there a bigger chance that the seat that Gillibrand is vacating could be won by a Republican, thereby losing us a seat in the House?
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:05 PM
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1. I sure hope not
It's my district, I was so happy when I thought that Sandy Treadwell was batted off, and now he's coming back into the mix. Ugh.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:07 PM
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2. There's a good chance that the answer is yes.
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 03:08 PM by Raineyb
But Paterson apparently was considering his reelection prospects more than the make up of the House.

Frankly, there are other Dems in safer seats with more of a record who would have been perfectly fine but apparently the geography wasn't good enough.

:shrug:

Regards

on edit, added preface.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:09 PM
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3. Screwed us over much less than Obama did by picking Napolitano for DHS
That is a major screw job to the thinking people of Arizona. This PALES in comparison.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:26 PM
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12. Agreed
As a former Arizonan (grew up in Sierra Vista and grad of ASU) I was disturbed by reports of a prominent dem leader giving up and resigning because he cannot work with the new GOP far right wing governor. Were those reports true?

In New York, look, it is a very blue state and one Congressional district won't change that even if it reverts to GOP hands. Arizona, however, is a state that is on the verge of turning blue.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:11 PM
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19. Yup. Those reports are true and we were definitely screwed in Arizona!
And we "were" on the verge. The incompetence of the Democratic Stae Party management of the last cycle has really set us back!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:10 PM
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4. It certainly appears so....
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 03:11 PM by hlthe2b
They get a REPUG in her District for Congress and we lose a chance for a true progressive-- substituting a Blue Dog DEM in the Senate.

I really don't see the logic on this despite her voting record (limited as it is) being generally favorable.... It is the issues she hasn't come out on strongly or at all (along with her close relationship with Alfonse D'Amato, among other REPUGS) that concerns me.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:14 PM
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5. Sure it could happen, but the benefits of picking the right one for the Senate far outweigh
what happens if we lose a seat in the House.

What we MIGHT lose in the House we are going to gain in the Senate.

Gillibrand has proven herself to be any Republican opponent's worst nightmare, and that bodes well for her in future Senate races in NY, or if you want to look ahead, even bigger things ahead for this quality politician.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:14 PM
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6. It looks that way. But appointing someone more conservative-guns-helps HIM. nt
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:15 PM
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7. Im starting to think Patterson is a GOP mole
He was in the right place to become Governor after Spitzer was pushed out by GOP dirty tricks, and now this appointment seems like payback to them.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:28 PM
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23. Loosen the tin foil hat. nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:15 PM
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8. Yup.
Who is more politically stupid, Blago or Patterson? I know which one I'd choose and it isn't Blago.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:17 PM
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9. That seat might not exist next year...
I hear we're about to lose a seat and that one has a good shot at going-- both legislative houses and the Governor are now Democrats and that seat was gerrymandered to be Republican.

Do the math.

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:32 PM
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27. thanks - about to post the same thing. I wonder how many people have looked at the map? nt
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:18 PM
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10. Only the GOP is happy about this
up here. We will probably lose the seat anyway in the next census and the district will be redrawn but who knows how and if we still have a Dem governor to do the redrawing. We have 30 days from the time he declares the election to run our candidate. Lots of people wanting the seat but not with the $$$.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:20 PM
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11. Gillibrand is a NYS loyalist. She can be counted on to vote for NY, Kennedy had divided loyalties.
Cuomo has been a workhorse for consumers; I think he has been promised something.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:38 PM
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13. Gillibrand is an UPSTATE loyalist. It remains to be seen if she'll be
of any use to the rest of us.

Regards
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:47 PM
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14. Schumer seems confident though doesn't he ? nt
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:46 PM
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16. Schumer is DLC. I'm sure he's confident
I don't need Schumer to tell me who would be a good choice.

Regards
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:39 PM
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24. But you want Larry Summers, Robert Rubin, Rahm Emmanuel, Joe Biden
deciding our ecomomic present and future? ....and anti-women's rights Tim Kaine running the Democratic Party.


The Obama administration is to the right of DLC and being run by Big Bankers and Wall Street characters (who were big contributors).

I'll take Gillebrand over the above anytime.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:58 PM
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25. You clearly have reading comprehension problems if that's what you took from my post
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 05:59 PM by Raineyb
I don't like the DLC period. Frankly, Obama is not far enough to the left for me but I've held that he was the one with whom we had the best chance of getting through. But that doesn't mean I'm going to give Gillibrand a pass either and considering that Alphonse D'mato was standing next to her at her press conference I see no reason to take Gillibrand over any of the above mentioned pols.

Regards

On edit: Corrected header
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:22 PM
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26. I skip the posts with personal , ad hominem attacks
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:35 PM
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28. didn't she live and work in Manhattan for a chunk of her life?
And people in western NY will say she's just from the Hudson valley suburbs of D.C., not real upstate. I'm not sure she has a long enough record to judge her loyalties to upstate vs. downstate. The only office she's held was an upstate one.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:48 PM
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15. of course it increases the chance of a GOP pick up.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:51 PM
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17. Could be. But one House seat is negligible, since it's a huge 50%+1 chamber, while
one good Senator can make all the difference in the world.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:52 PM
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18. Paterson = Political dumbass
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:23 PM
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20. He may be positioning himself for a run in 2012
The junior Senator from the State of New York, David Patterson?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:27 PM
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21. Probably, but so what? We've got House seats to burn.
One more or less isn't going to kill us, particularly when you consider that it's probably going to be chopped up and gotten rid of after the next census.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:28 PM
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22. I'm not completely sure why everybody hates her so much...
Reid wasn't for her though, and that's good enough for me.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:36 PM
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29. Same reason people hated Tonya Harding I imagine.
Or at least that's one reason. Her connections are not exactly savory either.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:52 PM
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30. I don't think Paterson was thinking about anything except furthering his own political career.
It appears his performance during this appointment process, however, resulted in a precipitous drop in the polls regarding his own 2010 bid in a deliciously ironic twist of fate. ;)
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