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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:21 AM
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There is one thing that really worries me about the "Bush as dictator"
scenario that nearly came to pass. And that is - where was the opposition?
Democrats at that time rolled over for him like a two bit whore. SCOTUS put him into power. The Army, with a few notable exceptions, probably would have loved to attack within the United States. So I would guess anyone who objected would have been arrested and locked up.
So that points out just how incredibly easy it could have been and probably still is for a president to install himself as dictator.
This is, of course, why Bushco must be prosecuted.

It is almost like we are reliving "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire"
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:24 AM
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1. If Bush hadn't gotten bored of being a Dictator I think he could very easily...
dissolved Congress and stayed in power... There was no opposition to him doing so...
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:28 AM
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4. There would have been about a dozen Senators and a couple dozen
reps who may have tried to force a standoff, but they could have been easily arrested.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:29 AM
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5. No opposition because Dems rolled over like a two bit whore, the Supremes
were accomplices, and most of the MSM, instead of telling the people what was happening, shrilly shilled on and on. :P
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:31 AM
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8. I forgot to mention the wonderful role played by the press. Thanks
They would have been all over themselves to praise the emperor.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:26 AM
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2. The "opposition" was keeping its powder dry and didn't want to appear partisan
That is, when they weren't caving in to his every whim.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:27 AM
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3. "Heh, heh...it'd be a heck of a lot easier if this were a dictatorship....
heh, heh...as long as I was in charge."

Can never forget that coming from the chimp.

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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:29 AM
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6. Gave me a spinal chill when he said it
because it didn't sound like he was really kidding.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:44 AM
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13. Me too. You just KNEW he was capable of it.
I'll never forget either, when he was a few months in office and it was the summer season when he said how Americans had nothing to fear and the September came along. When he said that I got a chill too because when you say things like that the opposite is bound to happen. Rather like the evil eye casting doom.
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:45 AM
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14. He wasn't
It's just now we have some documents proving it.

:grr:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:29 AM
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7. Kerry mentioned something after the 2004 election
When he stood down, and did not pursue legal challenges in Ohio, he said he did not want to have a scorched earth situation.

Powell doctrine states 'do not fight unless you have overwhelming force', so to take back the country, unfortunately, society had to wait till 2008 when the overwhelming force kept it from being a real bad situation.

Currently we have economic problems, and many housing and unemployment issues, but the strength is there to win those battles and get us back on track and even move forward.

In 2004, or even 2006, it would have gotten much worse.

Thats how I see it.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:33 AM
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10. Sadly until the overwhelming force was marshalled it looks like
Bush could have very easily just set himself in power. Then it would have been so much harder to marshall that overwhelming force.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 12:06 PM
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16. And if the American Revolutionists followed Powell doctrine we would be part of England. nt
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 05:21 PM
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20. I am only giving a possible
reason based on observation, as to why Kerry did not push in 2004, and why impeachment did not happen.

It is true, every cause requires a few that start when the odds are really long, I can't say I am always one of them, but I do get into thoughts that are not popular if I believe them just.

For the most part, I don't care what the odds are, or how strong other opponents appear to be. But others do more calculations then I do. I just do. and things sorta work out sometimes.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:31 AM
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9. Not only that but when those of us who sounded the alarm that the way
Bush gained power, marched on Iraq and started taking away human rights incrementally was frightenly similar to how Hitler gained power, we were told that we were ridiculous, paranoid and even un American to even suggest such a thing. History doesn't mean a thing and doesn't repeat itself. There were no concentration camps and jack boots in the street. Well we did get the equivalent of concentration camps and if the jackbooted security at the Republican Convention wasn't pretty much the same, I don't know what else to call it. Yet, every time we brought up the word Nazi, we were told to use the kinder, softer word, fascism but friends it was Nazism and if he had been able to declare martial law to gain complete control as a dictator, he would have. Evidence now points to the fact that it was in the works.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:37 AM
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11. Concentration camps - have you ever googled "FEMA camps"?
There are some videos out there that are really scary of the "FEMA" camps that were built around the country. They could have easily been mistaken for concentration camp.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 04:11 PM
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18. Yeah, I remember those being posted at DU.
I don't think we should be proud of the detention centers we send undocumented immigrants to either.
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moundsview Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 11:40 AM
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12. What stopped him I wonder?
The memos in question were written in 2001 after the "modern day Pearl Harbor" and with a complacent congress, a compliant Supreme Court and the media in his pocket, why didn't Bush finish the take over?

What do you suppose they were waiting for? I wonder if the plan was to hand the whole thing to McCain or something.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 02:03 PM
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17. I think that was in the works and by default (shudder)
Sarah Palin. These international corporations behind all of this pulling the strings of our government have appointed their puppets ahead of time it seems.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 12:04 PM
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15. Few "profiles in courage" in the Congress or MSM or Telecoms-everyone waited for We the People
and for Bush's popularity to plummet.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 04:30 PM
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19. "two bit whore"? Unexamined macho bully attitudes enable the climate that makes Bushco possible
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